[tomder55]

Lets not leave out the profit motive, which I think is the most powerful incentive for what's regarded as scientific fact.

Yeah you hit the Goracle's motivation right on the head .

[talaniman]

Its yours too.

[paraclete]

Yeah you hit the Goracle's motivation right on the head .

Yes, he started a trend there popularising science fantasy for profit

[Tuttyd]

Yes, he started a trend there popularising science fantasy for profit

Yes, but why let one side of politics have all the fanaticising?

[paraclete]

I didn't think they did, one side fantaticising by wanting everyone else to pay for fixing up a mess and the other fanatasing that there is no mess

[speechlesstx]

I didn't think they did, one side fantaticising by wanting everyone else to pay for fixing up a mess and the other fanatasing that there is no mess

And yet another fantasy, that our side doesn't like clean air, water and nice temperatures. Give it a rest. What I don't like, and I think you agree, is using this consensus science that keeps turning out to be flawed as a hammer for a political agenda.


What else I don't like is using the EPA to expand government power.

[paraclete]

And yet another fantasy, that our side doesn't like clean air, water and nice temperatures. Give it a rest. What I don't like, and I think you agree, is using this consensus science that keeps turning out to be flawed as a hammer for a political agenda.

What else I don't like is using the EPA to expand government power.

Yes speech I can go along with that, kick a bureaucrat in the teeth. Along with those things you mentioned which I enjoy, we also like heat in winter and cool in summer and the ability to get from one place to another.

[excon]

Hello again,

When Joshua Bass, an engineer, sent his son to iSchool High, a Houston charter school, he was expecting a solid college preparation, including the chance to study some college courses before leaving high school. Instead, the Basses were shocked when their son came home from the taxpayer-funded school with apparently religiously motivated anti-science books.

One of these books blamed Darwin's theory of evolution for the Holocaust:

[Hitler] has written that the Aryan (German) race would be the leader in all human progress. To accomplish that goal, all “lower races” should either be enslaved or eliminated. Apparently the theory of evolution and its “survival of the fittest” philosophy had taken root in Hitler's warped mind.

This 2012-2013 school year, thanks to a bill pushed through by governor Bobby Jindal, thousands of students in Louisiana will receive state voucher money, transferred from public school funding, to attend private religious schools, some of which teach from a Christian curriculum that suggests the Loch Ness Monster disproves evolution and states that the alleged creature, which has never been demonstrated to even exist, has been tracked by submarine and is probably a plesiosaur. The curriculum also claims that a Japanese fishing boat caught a dinosaur.

So, I ask my Christian friends again, when religion is taught as science, how well do those students do on the science section of their SAT's?

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again,

When Joshua Bass, an engineer, sent his son to iSchool High, a Houston charter school, he was expecting a solid college preparation, including the chance to study some college courses before leaving high school. Instead, the Basses were shocked when their son came home from the taxpayer-funded school with apparently religiously motivated anti-science books.

One of these books blamed Darwin’s theory of evolution for the Holocaust:
So, I ask my Christian friends again, when religion is taught as science, how well do those students do on the science section of their SAT's?

excon

You'd have to give us the data before anyone can make a judgment. But I do know a lot of my friends kids went to private Christian schools and they beat the pants off their public school counterparts. But if this guy is so smart why didn't he research which school to send his kids to, I'm sure Houston has quite a few.

[tomder55]

SAT doesn't have a science section . The ACT does ,and private schools out perform public schools across the board on ACT scores . Could not find a breakdown more specifically or religious private schools.

[talaniman]

I know public school graduates who are beating the pants off the private school kids too, but I have to agree that people who take those vouchers have a responsibility to know exactly who they give those vouchers to.

Private and religious isn't always better. Even though I am sure that's not what the fancy brochures say.