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Oct 3, 2013, 11:11 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
5 million more people believed his stuff than your guys stuff. A FACT, next fact 2014. My side has been dragging your side forward forever. You haven't stopped kicking' and screaming yet, so I doubt you ever will, but don't worry, we will just keep dragging ya forward anyway!
>sigh<
Now that's love, and be nice if you guys show some, or at least learn to not be afraid of walking forward. It really ain't that bad, might be fun. :) :D
You know tal... every time someone quotes a number... it keeps getting bigger... eventuyally more people will have voted for him than live in India.
Obama only won 51% of the electoral votes... 1% is slim by anyone's count.
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Oct 3, 2013, 11:35 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
You do grasp that the USA isn't a Democracy... But a Representative republic... and its Electroral votes that put someone i8n office? They teach that in 9th grade Civics class.
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Oct 3, 2013, 11:37 AM
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336-302 if you prefer. He won no matter what math you use.
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Oct 3, 2013, 11:44 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
336-302 if you prefer. He won no matter what math you use.
Gee, do you concede that Bush actually won too... or do you still think he didn't?
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Oct 3, 2013, 01:01 PM
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Nobody questions he won, Scotus said so.
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Oct 3, 2013, 05:07 PM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Nobody questions he won, Scotus said so.
Odd that we heard the opposite from the left for well over 8 years. And besides the Votes said so long before the scotus ever said it.
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Oct 3, 2013, 05:35 PM
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Why do you relive history when you have a real crisis to deal with? BO won the election, he there for has a clear mandate, if he got 51% that's a majority, it also means he has a 2% margin.
It is said there are sufficient Republicians in the House to carry a vote but Boehner is held captive by the TParty and won't allow it to go to vote. Childish behaviour and not democracy
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Oct 3, 2013, 05:48 PM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
5 million more people believed his stuff than your guys stuff. A FACT, next fact 2014. My side has been dragging your side forward forever. You haven't stopped kicking' and screaming yet, so I doubt you ever will, but don't worry, we will just keep dragging ya forward anyway!
>sigh<
Now that's love, and be nice if you guys show some, or at least learn to not be afraid of walking forward. It really ain't that bad, might be fun. :) :D
Lots of foolish people believe propaganda but that doesn't make them smart for voting for that person. It makes them sheeple. Obama and the media gaurded his flock well and fed them BS on a daily basis.
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Oct 3, 2013, 07:06 PM
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Is it any less BS than the other side feeds it's sheeple?
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Oct 3, 2013, 09:59 PM
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From where I sit Tal I agree with you its al B/S
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Oct 4, 2013, 05:03 AM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
why do you relive history when you have a real crisis to deal with? BO won the election, he there for has a clear mandate, if he got 51% that's a majority, it also means he has a 2% margin.
It is said there are sufficient Republicians in the House to carry a vote but Boehner is held captive by the TParty and won't allow it to go to vote. Childish behaviour and not democracy
YOU don't understand how our system works them... we don't have a Parlament... our branches of government are co-equal... meaning the president doesn't get to lord over the underlings... because they aren't subservient to him. They are all slices of the same pie. Legislative, Judicial, and executive branches.
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Oct 4, 2013, 06:55 AM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
YOU don't understand how our system works them.....we don't have a Parlament...our branches of government are co-equal....meaning the president doesn't get to lord over the underlings...because they aren't subservient to him. They are all slices of the same pie. Legislative, Judicial, and executive branches.
I understand that the idea is that the House initiates a bill, the Senate reviews it and the President assents to it or has the power of veto, and the Court adjudicates when asked to do so. The court can initiate nothing of itself, so not equal in that respect but has ultimate power. It is supposed to work as a cooperative process with checks and balances, with leadership in the President. The idea that they are coequal and the House can run the country is a myth no doubt promelgated by members of the House. What you actually have over there is an attempted coup. If both the House and the Senate decided that the ACA should be repealed, then the President should assent but that hasn't happened. Only the House has attempted this in what they are doing. In our parlance they have refused supply, it is their prorogative but it seems you don't possess our remedy to the empasse
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Oct 4, 2013, 07:03 AM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
I understand that the idea is that the House initiates a bill, the Senate reviews it and the President assents to it or has the power of veto, and the Court adjudicates when asked to do so. The court can initiate nothing of itself, so not equal in that respect but has ultimate power. It is supposed to work as a cooperative process with checks and balances, with leadership in the President. The idea that they are coequal and the House can run the country is a myth no doubt promelgated by members of the House. What you actually have over there is an attempted coup. If both the House and the Senate decided that the ACA should be repealed, then the President should assent but that hasn't happened. Only the House has attempted this in what they are doing. In our parlance they have refused supply, it is their prorogative but it seems you don't possess our remedy to the empasse
You really don't understand it then... because its actually codified into the constitution... and law as well. But you have a reason as you did not grow up and attend school here to know the nuances and details of our government, only some of the basics. Much the same as why I won't know all the details of Austrailias.
The Duties of the Three Branches of Government
The house doesn't answer to Harry Reid... or the White house... Its Obama that's been prancing around like some Bananna republic dictator... Harry Reid just rants like some mental deficient that's been dropped n his head once too often..
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Oct 4, 2013, 07:08 AM
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I understand that the Court ajudicated and declared the ACA valid therefore the President through the various departments of government implements it, it is beyond the legislature unless repealed or modified and that takes both houses
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Oct 4, 2013, 07:35 AM
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The idea that they are coequal and the House can run the country is a myth no doubt promelgated by members of the House... What you actually have over there is an attempted coup.
No ;actually it's in the writings of the founders. All you have to do is see the length and powers designated article 1 compared to the ones designated on article 2 . One could say that the powers of the executive and the judiciary have "evolved " (if you are being kind ) . When you use the word 'coup' however ,you are pointing fingers at the wrong branches .
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Oct 4, 2013, 08:06 AM
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LOL, enjoy your red meat from Bonehead, there is a time limit on the TParty banquette.
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Oct 4, 2013, 08:07 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
LOL, enjoy your red meat from Bonehead, there is a time limit on the TParty banquette.
Nope... but there is an experation date on Obamas Charm to the easily suckered...
And the maggots won't even touch that any longer.
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Oct 4, 2013, 01:10 PM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Is it any less BS than the other side feeds it's sheeple?
They seem to take his word as gospel rather then looking it up or being concerned about what is really going on. Do you actually believe with all the evidence in question and that has been presented that Bengasi was because of a video and what does it matter anyway? You know it was BS that was fed to his sheeple and they ate the slop like it was manna from heaven. According to Obama debt doesn't matter so why worry about it right?
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