[tomder55]

Actually that isnt true. Look at Apples history and then look at the Apple Lisa. Or in the news as of late Micrsoft with its release of Win8. Bad bad mistakes.

I stand corrected... Windows 8 sucks and is unusable and yet it still sells. I am working on one right now and only use the Desktop feature.

[cdad]

I stand corrected ... Windows 8 sucks and is unusable and yet it still sells. I am working on one right now and only use the Desktop feature.

Windows 8 could be a whole other thread. Its sad. That is why Im still holding on dearly to Win7 ultra.

[paraclete]

Look at the Autobahn system.....that was mostly designed and build in the 1930's when most cars were pathetically slow.

But here is a list of only 10 of the many..

Top 10 Things The Nazis Got Right - Listverse

or these..

He wrote first law of protecting the animals.
He started first checking of drunk drivers.
Organized crime was brought to 0% during his time.
He created ecologic laws for protecting water, earth and air.
For the first time in history workers had payed vacations.
After death of Fritz Todt he created black box for airplanes.
He prohibited selling of cigarettes to women.
He prohibited smoking to people in uniforms and persons under the age of 18.
He also prohibited smoking in public areas.
He first placed photos of lungs etc. on cigarette boxes.
He is the founder of Volskwagen (people cars), and the designer of VW beetles, the world nr 1 saled car.
He fighted Breast Cancer and Lung Cancer.
The first freeways in the world were built in Germany. Autobahn ("The whole world came, and saw, and copied.").
He saved Germany from unemployment and financial ruin.
He Promoted of architecture,music and the arts;
first epic olympic games were held in 1936-Germany
World's first research linking smoking and cancer thx to Hitler;
An Affordable Vacation is your right, thanks to Adolf
women's rights
Homes with gardens. No more "rabbit-warrens".
Under the guidance of the Reich, Europe would speedily have become unified.
he free the German media, German education, Geman finance, German politics, German culture from the Jews and all communists who wanted to transform Germany into a ruined country under soviet power.
Reunited all German speaking langues into Großdeutsches Reich
protection of animals and
During his reign Germany was the most powerful state in the world
greatest tehnology in human history was developed by Third Reich (first jet fighters, bombers, first stealth plane, first stealth submarine, first rockets, nuclear weapons, orbitals bombers, first helicopters, first flying disk, first tv programs, first 3d movies, first rifles and the list can go on ..............)


Nobody is ignoring the bad he did.....but thats stuff everyone knows already.

If I understand you correctly you are telling us we are all living in a post Nazi utopia and should thank AH. I have travelled on the autobahns, can't say I enjoyed the experience, I used to own a VW a long time ago and I came to know what Hitlers revenge means and these war time advances in weaponry were used to kill people so not good, you also forget to say he was a racist B@stard who carried out the mass extermination of a race, you cannot just classify that under bad

[smoothy]

If I understand you correctly you are telling us we are all living in a post Nazi utopia and should thank AH. I have travelled on the autobahns, can't say I enjoyed the experience, I used to own a VW a long time ago and I came to know what Hitlers revenge means and these war time advances in weaponry were used to kill people so not good, you also forget to say he was a racist B@stard who carried out the mass extermination of a race, you cannot just classify that under bad

The request was for the good things he did... the list was limited to that. Also take time to read the last sentence... its in the quote.

I've also traveled the autobahns... In Austria AND Germany... they sucked in Austria (bumpy expansion joints)... but they were freaking awesome in Germany (at least the parts that were once WEST Germany). And I've been east west north and south on them.

[paraclete]

The request was for the good things he did....the list was limited to that. Also take time to read the last sentence....its in the quote.

I've also traveled the autobahns....In Austria AND Germany.....they sucked in Austria (bumpy expansion joints) ...but they were freaking awesome in Germany (at least the parts that were once WEST Germany). And I've been east west north and south on them.

I don't know where you travelled on them but I travelled from Switzerland right through the Rhineland to Holland before the fall of the wall and the only place I found them to be of good standard was near the Dutch border, but then I wasn't tarvelling in a high speed car and had to contend with the trucks

As far as I'm concerned anything to do with Nazi is not good, some outcomes may have been all right for the time but the thinking stinks. Who wants to live in a national socialist homerginised state. Zieg Heil and all that crap

[smoothy]

I don't know where you travelled on them but I travelled from Switzerland right through the Rhineland to Holland before the fall of the wall and the only place i found them to be of good standard was near the Dutch border, but then I wasn't tarvelling in a high speed car and had to contend with the trucks

As far as I'm concerned anything to do with Nazi is not good, some outcomes may have been alright for the time but the thinking stinks. who wants to live in a national socialist homerginised state. Zieg Heil and all that crap

When I was on a Autobahn.. I was traveling at prety high speeds over 90 mph... sure there is traffic at certain times of the day... thats to be expected in densely populated areas. But I was talking about the quality of the roads. I traveled most of it in excess of 120 mph. (heck... some of it was in a 1987 VW Jetta, 125 mph in light rain)

I didn't have a Ferrari or what even passed as a sports car... and driving at those speeds was as effortless as 55mph on American Highways.

As far as what the Germans did... your argument would be the same as disregarding the person who finds the cure for cancer... because they once had an accident driving while drunk that had a fatality.

If you are going to acknowledge the bad... you have to acknowledge the good as well.

[tomder55]

Apparently the system worked flawlessly in Florida.

NY State claimed they had 30 million visits to their web site.. FYI the population for the state is estimated to be 19.5 million . In contrast ;the White House ,which handles the Federal exchange for 36 states claimed 4.7million hits according to Jake Tapper. They would not say how many enrolled .
Also in constrast was California... which has the most populus state , had 5.7 million hits . Clearly the NY enrollment is working fine .

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Yeah, glitches... Yawwwwn.

excon

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:

Yeah, glitches.... Yawwwwn.

excon

Cavuto: Mr. President, we at Fox News are not the problem - YouTube

Sleep through this video if you want to .

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

That video is brought to you by the network who told us about the death panels... Well, that wasn't so. So, I didn't sleep through it. I simply paid it no attention...

The law needs FIXING. But, you don't want to FIX it. You want to DESTROY it. You have from the get go. Nothing you've EVER said about it wound up being so. Oh, it's wieldy. It's complex, and it NEEDS tweaking... But, it NEVER was a "takeover". It NEVER was ANYTHING you've ever said about it.

But, all that's PASSED. It's LAW. Live with it.

excon

[paraclete]

NY State claimed they had 30 million visits to their web site .. FYI the population for the state is estimated to be 19.5 million . In contrast ;the White House ,which handles the Federal exchange for 36 states claimed 4.7million hits according to Jake Tapper. They would not say how many enrolled .
Also in constrast was California ....which has the most populus state , had 5.7 million hits . Clearly the NY enrollment is working fine .

Tom you know this is all down to how much access you provide, but it may be that there were problems and therefore multiple attempts to progress

[speechlesstx]

But, you don't wanna FIX it. You wanna DESTROY it. You have from the get go.

Funny, but that's what we were saying about your view of the system we had before you rammed this crap sandwich down our throats.

[tomder55]

But, all that's PASSED. It's LAW. Live with it.

That argument of course has always persuaded the lefties .Even when they can't change the laws through legislation or the courts ,they undermine them through executive action ,or ignore them in the bureaucracy.

[talaniman]

Since we know you guys never liked the way he handles his job doesn't mean everybody agrees with you and obviously your failure to take his job away should tell you something.

But you guys are good at ignoring facts, and making up your own.

[smoothy]

Since we know you guys never liked the way he handles his job doesn't mean everybody agrees with you and obviously your failure to take his job away should tell you something.

But you guys are good at ignoring facts, and making up your own.

You keep porgetting a very slim majority of the vote is NOT equal to the majority of the adult population agreeing...

We don't like the way he's doing anything because he's a blundering buffoon.. And he's screwed up everything that he's touched so far.

I didn't like Clinton when he was in office either... but at least there were some things he did I could agree with... and he didn't screw everything up he touched... only some things.

[smoothy]

And MORE proof Obama and his flunkies are illegally using the IRS for retaliation against those who do not bow and lick the Messiahs feet.

Criticizing ObamaCare | Fox News Video

[speechlesstx]

Since we know you guys never liked the way he handles his job doesn't mean everybody agrees with you and obviously your failure to take his job away should tell you something.

But you guys are good at ignoring facts, and making up your own.

And that is how he got elected, ignoring facts and making sh*t up.

[Wondergirl]

And that is how he got elected, ignoring facts and making sh*t up.

And he got elected TWICE when he did that? You really think people are that stupid?

[smoothy]

And he got elected TWICE when he did that? You really think people are that stupid?

Actaulyl yes... people are that stupid. Look at a lot of the posts on this site... (not this forum). Heck... just look at half the pregnancy questions alone. Not to mention the people seeing things that aren't there in the Paranormal forum.. people that believe in alien abduction and aliens that are probing their butts usually while drunk or high on something.

Maury Povich and Jerry Springer aren't sham shows... those are real people... they breed and they vote.

Scary... isn't it?

[talaniman]

5 million more people believed his stuff than your guys stuff. A FACT, next fact 2014. My side has been dragging your side forward forever. You haven't stopped kicking' and screaming yet, so I doubt you ever will, but don't worry, we will just keep dragging you forward anyway!

>sigh<

Now that's love, and be nice if you guys show some, or at least learn to not be afraid of walking forward. It really ain't that bad, might be fun. :) :D