[tomder55]

Your views as expressed here are strongly republican

Nope I express conservative views. The Repubics did for a brief time during Reagan . But no longer . They are as big government as the Dems.

[paraclete]

Former Queensland premier Peter Beattie will stand in federal seat of Forde in election | News.com.au

Krudd is desperate, just as Gillard was desperate, He has Peter Beattie as a candidate in Queensland, a man who destroyed the economy of the state of Queensland and he still has Bob Carr by his side, the man who created the mess in NSW. On what planet do the voters not remember what these men did and Krudd thinks we want another dose. Think again, Krudd because we do not want more of the Krudd that has been served up by Labor

[paraclete]

Kevin Rudd accuses Tony Abbott of holding talks with Rupert Murdoch over NBN - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

The campaign hots up but the real news is the way Rupert depics Krudd as the bumbling Klink from the WWII comedy Hogans Heroes with Thompson as Hogan the scam artist extraordinaire. There is a not too veiled reference here to Krudd as a Nazi Kamp Kommandant

[tomder55]

So who is Sgt Schultz ? KRudd is taking a page from the Obots . They demonize Fox ,a Murdoch network .

[paraclete]

Albanese, the new deputy Prime Minister, former party whip and leader of the house, caught drinking with disgraced MP Craig Thomson. This cartoon is as much a reference to him being on the shady side as anything else

It is clear Murdoch has come squarely out against Labor and there local reasons for this, their abortive attempt to attack media ownership and limit the reach of ownership. The local press thinks it is because the NBN challenges cable but the NBN has been a factor for six years, it is not something new. It is interesting he is doing it in the Telegraph, which is a working class tabloid. The Murdoch broadsheet The Australian presents a much more balanced view

[paraclete]

Do we really have candidates as dumb as this?
Stephanie Banister Channel Seven Interview, One Nation Candidate Interview

It seems those Sarah Palin types are not confined to the northern climes. With a foot in both mouths this candidate took to the hustings

[tomder55]

She would fit in well with the Paleoconsevatives here

[paraclete]

So does this mean you are in a Neo-paleolithic era and accept Kopy Kats

[tomder55]

No. There are actually very few nativists here. I welcome legal immigration. That has always been a positive for this country. All I ask is that if someone emigrates here ,that they are screened before entry and are eligible to come under the established law. We can debate the details... but until the borders are properly controlled ,this issue will never be solved.

[paraclete]

Tom exactly our attitude and we expend resources patrolling the Indian Ocean to enforce our border policy. What I don't get and nor does the illegal immigrant, if you don't respect our laws we don't want you, you cannot make your own rules and wander about wherever you like, this is for your own protection. Eg; if they land in the north they face crocodile, shark, snake, jelly fish, lack of water, lack of habitation, lack of food lack of shelter perhaps even hostile traditional owners who don't have a good attitude towards them, not to mention the real possibility of loss at sea crossing a vast ocean.

Solving the border issue doesn't stop them coming the pull factors are too great, what it does is diminish the numbers who get through. What has to be solved is the reason they leave their homeland in the first place

[tomder55]

What I don't get and nor does the illegal immigrant, if you don't respect our laws we don't want you,

Yup and the 1st lawless act is entering the country without permission.

[paraclete]

That's right, we don't have an open doors policy, in fact I don't know any country that does but these people have an arrogance that is beyond belief, it seems that once they get outside their own country they think they can do whatever they like. We are fed up with rescuing people from unseaworthy boats and having our courts filled with applications for hearings to overturn immigration department decisions.

I see our government has made an interesting decision on visa fees, quite the reverse of what I would have done, a working visa costs $4,000 and a family parent reconciliation visa $50,000 and yet they think they can rock up in a leaky boat and bypass the process

[paraclete]

does this guy ever shut up?

Kevin Rudd breathes fire and brimstone into campaign

Tony Abbott has had enough of Krudd's negative approach and let Krudd get under his skin at last nights debate. All we are hearing in this campaign is how Abbott will cut expenditure as the tactics of fear heat up but Abbott is upfront he will cut 12000 jobs by attrition which would be the "jobs for the boys" growth in the public service under Labor

[tomder55]

It's always the end of the world when someone dare suggest that government should be reined in.

[paraclete]

Yes but unfortunately the tactics seem to be working with Krudd getting a surge in the polls

[speechlesstx]

It's come to this, a key candidate in Australia's Wikileaks Party has resigned, and you got to love the reasoning...

Julian Assange on Thursday took responsibility for the resignation of a key candidate from his WikiLeaks Party running in Australian elections, blaming his focus on Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning.

The fledgling party is in crisis after its number two candidate for the Australian Senate behind Assange, ethicist Leslie Cannold, said she was disillusioned with its lack of transparency and accountability and quit Wednesday.

Read more: Assange blames Manning, Snowden for WikiLeaks Party chaos | Fox News

[tomder55]

I wonder if Assange is a transformer like Manning ?

[speechlesstx]

TNR headline: He Is Not Bradley Manning. She Is Chelsea Manning. Deal With It.

Get ready, the next left's most obviously necessary cause will be forcing the Army to accommodate convicted transformers..

Manning's lawyer, David Coombs, said, "I'm hoping that Fort Leavenworth would do the right thing and provide that. If Fort Leavenworth does not, then I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that they are forced to do so.”)

[talaniman]

I am open minded but for now let me use your name... speechlesstx.

[paraclete]

It's come to this, a key candidate in Australia's Wikileaks Party has resigned, and you gotta love the reasoning...

And he has lost more that one. It seems an "administrative mistake" occurred when doing preference deals so that some radical self interested minor parties were preferenced, not to mention the rift in how the party is managed by its hands on leader and everyoneelse who are on the ground. You have to understand these fellows have a snowballs of being elected to anything. If Assange did get up on a sympathy vote he wouldn't carry enough support to get others on his ticket over the line so those votes would help the undesirables to get elected

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-2...oblems/4904366