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Jun 14, 2013, 02:42 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Her parents would not know she is scared.
If the girl is so incompetent as you keep describing then she is in no way capable of making a medical decision on her own. If she doesn't "know" how to express fear and how to handle it then she isn't of a mindset to make a decision of such magnitude.
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Jun 14, 2013, 02:45 PM
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 Originally Posted by cdad
If the girl is so incompetent as you keep describing then she is in no way capable of making a medical decision on her own. If she doesnt "know" how to express fear and how to handle it then she isnt of a mindset to make a decision of such magnitude.
And that was the answer we were looking for.
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Jun 14, 2013, 02:47 PM
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 Originally Posted by cdad
If the girl is so incompetent as you keep describing then she is in no way capable of making a medical decision on her own. If she doesnt "know" how to express fear and how to handle it then she isnt of a mindset to make a decision of such magnitude.
Tell me if you can imagine any 13-year-old girl who wouldn't be scared out of her wits and afraid to tell her parents she's been having sex and is now pregnant.
So then what?
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Jun 14, 2013, 02:48 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
And that was the answer we were looking for.
Nope. We're only halfway there.
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Jun 14, 2013, 02:49 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Tell me if you can imagine any 13-year-old girl who wouldn't be scared out of her wits and afraid to tell her parents she's been having sex and is now pregnant.
So then what?
Then she can as was stated tell her story to the courts and seek an abortion. That is her fear and she will have to deal with it. But if she is that afraid it sounds like DNA testing will be ordered after the baby arrives.
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Jun 14, 2013, 02:53 PM
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 Originally Posted by cdad
Then she can as was stated tell her story to the courts and seek an abortion. That is her fear and she will have to deal with it. But if she is that afraid it sounds like DNA testing will be ordered after the baby arrives.
What?? What courts? She is hiding in her bedroom after school and avoiding her parents.
DNA testing for what?
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Jun 14, 2013, 02:53 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Nope. We're only halfway there.
Maybe not you but I'm good.
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Jun 14, 2013, 02:56 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
What??? What courts? She is hiding in her bedroom after school and avoiding her parents.
DNA testing for what?
Child support for the baby. Duh !
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Jun 14, 2013, 02:56 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Maybe not you but I'm good.
The girl is still pregnant and her parents don't know.
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Jun 14, 2013, 02:58 PM
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 Originally Posted by cdad
Child support for the baby. Duh !
We're still miles away from child support. Only the girl knows she is pregnant. The parents are clueless.
So what does the girl do?
Duh back at you.
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Jun 14, 2013, 02:59 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
What??? What courts? She is hiding in her bedroom after school and avoiding her parents.
DNA testing for what?
OK I'll play along a little more. What if she goes to her "loving grandma" who so generously takes her across state lines where the parents don't have to know, she ends up in a clinic like Gosnell's. The poor girl is now literally scared out of her wits as he pulls the baby out with forceps, snips the breathing, crying infant's neck while the girl bleeds out and dies.
Who's going to bring the daughter back? Who's going to restore the broken relationship between grandma and the grieving, horrified parents?
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Jun 14, 2013, 03:02 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
We're still miles away from child support. Only the girl knows she is pregnant. The parents are clueless.
Duh back at ya.
Actually I think your clueless in what your trying to present. There are ways to circumvent the parental consent laws. Those are already in place. But if this "girl" is so paralyzed with fear that she can not act nor can think then she will end up carrying the child.
Its not rocket science. Its how the law works and how parental consent is involved. If your trying to present a case of abusive parents then she will be whisked away by the system and taken care of. That's why they have 911.
If your trying to present her as helpless as the child she is carrying then your out of luck.
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Jun 14, 2013, 03:03 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
OK I'll play along a little more. What if she goes to her "loving grandma" who so generously takes her across state lines where the parents don't have to know, she ends up in a clinic like Gosnell's. The poor girl is now literally scared out of her wits as he pulls the baby out with forceps, snips the breathing, crying infant's neck while the girl bleeds out and dies.
Who's going to bring the daughter back? Who's going to restore the broken relationship between grandma and the grieving, horrified parents?
No one will be able to bring the daughter back. The relationship will never be restored.
Now, with your Stephen King mind tagging along, let's go back to the girl hiding in her bedroom. What else could happen? What can she do?
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Jun 14, 2013, 03:05 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
No one will be able to bring the daughter back. The relationship will never be restored.
Now, with your Stephen King mind tagging along, let's go back to the girl hiding in her bedroom. What else could happen? What can she do?
She either reaches out or stands alone. Its not up to me. How are you presenting this girl to be?
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Jun 14, 2013, 03:06 PM
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 Originally Posted by cdad
Actually I think your clueless in what your trying to present. There are ways to circumvent the parental consent laws. Those are already in place. But if this "girl" is so paralyzed with fear that she can not act nor can think then she will end up carrying the child.
Its not rocket science. Its how the law works and how parental consent is involved. If your trying to present a case of abusive parents then she will be whisked away by the system and taken care of. Thats why they have 911.
If your trying to present her as helpless as the child she is carrying then your out of luck.
There is no parental consent or legal anything yet in this situation. Who does this pregnant girl go to (probably AMHD... )?
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Jun 14, 2013, 03:07 PM
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 Originally Posted by cdad
She either reaches out or stands alone. Its not up to me. How are you presenting this girl to be?
Aaaah, I LOVE you. Who does she reach out to?
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Jun 14, 2013, 03:08 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Aaaah, I LOVE you. Who does she reach out to?
You pick. Its your girl.
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Jun 14, 2013, 03:10 PM
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 Originally Posted by cdad
You pick. Its your girl.
No, I think she is speech's. Can't remember who created her.
I would hope she would confide in a trusted adult (teacher, aunt, etc.) who would have her best interests at heart.
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Jun 14, 2013, 05:20 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
No, I think she is speech's. Can't remember who created her.
I would hope she would confide in a trusted adult (teacher, aunt, etc.) who would have her best interests at heart.
Anyone but the mom and/or dad, the people who love her most and know her better than anyone, right?
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Jun 14, 2013, 05:23 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Anyone but the mom and/or dad, the people who love her most and know her better than anyone, right?
Yes, that is usually what happens. Hopefully (ah, hope!), they will notice her distress and weight gain, and gently question her.
But if that doesn't happen, then what can she do?
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