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    Jun 4, 2013, 07:16 PM
    And your point is ? Kathleen Sebilius ,a cabinet member who's agency actually runs Obamacare ,had scheduled visits of less than 50 in the same time.CNN doesn't even come close to explaining that the next person on the log had about half the total visits recorded that Schulman had . They are only guessing how often he was a 'no show'. Nor do they come close to even trying to explain why his predecessor only visited the White House once. We already know that he often met with Stephanie Cutter ,who became 'Obama For America' Deputy Campaign Director . She told Jake Tapper that over the weekend. There is no way he was going there solely because the IRS has an enforcement role in Obamacare.
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    Jun 4, 2013, 07:58 PM
    Yeah there has got to be hanky panky going on. I mean you guys record is perfect with these scandals.
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    Jun 4, 2013, 08:18 PM
    Hello again,

    Word is that he only went 11 times.. Poor Republicans. You soooo want there to be a scandal, that you'll make up stuff.

    Really.. When I do the math, assuming he took the weekends off, he would have been at the White House 3 + days a week. I don't think even the people that work there are there that much..

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    Jun 4, 2013, 08:30 PM
    Sssssssssssshhhhh!
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    Jun 5, 2013, 03:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Word is that he only went 11 times.. Poor Republicans. You soooo want there to be a scandal, that you'll make up stuff.

    Really.. When I do the math, assuming he took the weekends off, he would have been at the White House 3 + days a week. I don't think even the people that work there are there that much..

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    So he just scheduled appointments to see his name on the visitor log ? Your defense of the indefensible is becoming pathetic.
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    Jun 5, 2013, 03:30 AM
    Hello again, tom:
    So he just scheduled appointments to see his name on the visitor log ? Your defense of the indefensible is becoming pathetic.

    (CNN) – In the early days of President Barack Obama's sweeping new health care law, Douglas Shulman, then the commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service, was cleared to visit the White House 157 times over three years, official visitor logs show.

    More than 50 of Douglas Shulman's scheduled visits are described as "health care meetings" or "health care reform meetings," according to the visitor logs. Arrival times are only listed for 11 of his visits, and it's not unusual for a person to appear on the visitor logs - which are derived from Secret Service clearance lists - without actually having visited the White House. The majority of the visits were set to be held in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, which houses office suites for administration aides.
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    Jun 5, 2013, 03:52 AM
    He went to 11 Easter egg rolls.
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    Jun 5, 2013, 03:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Yeah there has got to be hanky panky going on. I mean you guys record is perfect with these scandals.
    That was before he had absolute media protection. Nice to know you believe there is nothing too corrupt for this admin to get away with. And by the way, he can't get away with just throwing people under the bus or giving them all executive privilege this time around.
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    Jun 5, 2013, 04:05 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    And by the way, he can't get away with just throwing people under the bus or giving them all executive privilege this time around.
    Cool. Sounds like you've got some PROOF on the way. I can hardly wait.

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    Jun 5, 2013, 04:27 AM
    You'll deny any proof, you already have denied the admission of guilt.
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    Jun 5, 2013, 04:43 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    you already have denied the admission of guilt.
    Nahhh... The IRS is guilty of malfeasance. The White House isn't. How come you can't remember my position one post to another?

    Look, Steve. How many times do I have to say that the IRS did bad stuff, but that doesn't mean Obama did?? Now, I'm not DENYING that he did. I just want to see some PROOF, and right wingers flapping their gums AIN'T proof.

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    Jun 5, 2013, 05:12 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Look, it's not only ME talking about proof. It's your favorite right wing senator.
    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Monday became the latest Republican to reject Darrell Issa's comments that White House press secretary Jay Carney is a "paid liar" in relation to the IRS controversy. But Graham went further than his Republican colleagues, saying there's no evidence that the White House ordered the tax agency to target conservative groups.
    I guess he's as BLIND as I am.

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    #73

    Jun 5, 2013, 05:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Nahhh... The IRS is guilty of malfeasance. The White House isn't. How come you can't remember my position one post to another?

    Look, Steve. How many times do I have to say that the IRS did bad stuff, but that doesn't mean Obama did??? Now, I'm not DENYING that he did. I just wanna see some PROOF, and right wingers flapping their gums AIN'T proof.

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    I have yet to say it came straight from Obama, I don't know why you can't remember that. It goes beyond malfeasance though, you 're in denial about what we already know. You are deluding yourself if you think your revisionist tactics will work.
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    Jun 5, 2013, 06:09 AM
    (CNN) – In the early days of President Barack Obama's sweeping new health care law, Douglas Shulman, then the commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service, was cleared to visit the White House 157 times over three years, official visitor logs show.

    More than 50 of Douglas Shulman's scheduled visits are described as "health care meetings" or "health care reform meetings," according to the visitor logs. Arrival times are only listed for 11 of his visits, and it's not unusual for a person to appear on the visitor logs - which are derived from Secret Service clearance lists - without actually having visited the White House. The majority of the visits were set to be held in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, which houses office suites for administration aides.

    Excon
    So he just scheduled appointments to see his name on the visitor log ? I would think that CNN would get arm fatigue carrying so much water for the Obots.

    By the way . I don't know about anyone else... but I have not come close to directly accusing the emperor of ordering these IRS targets >I said it from the beginning that he is too smart to directly involve himself . Here is how it probably went down .

    King Henry II was having a dispute with the ArchBishop of Canterbury Thomas Beckett . Beckett took the dispute too far for Henry's liking . Henry II was away in Normandy when he heard of the latest challenge by Beckett . According to literature he said “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” Other accounts by Edward Grim wrote that Henry actually said “What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?”

    Either way, Henry II never said directly that he wanted Beckett killed . But his knights knew their marching orders .December 29, 1170, four knights confronted Thomas Beckett inside Canterbury Cathedral . They cut off the top of his head and began stabbing him, leaving him to die, and smearing Beckett's brain matter on the floor of Canterbury Cathedral.
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    Jun 5, 2013, 06:27 AM
    Cool story bro.
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    Jun 5, 2013, 07:11 AM
    Yeah cool story from long ago and means nothing now, just because you can't figure someone else putting him on a list as a possible visitor to some seminars. I have often wondered, and even asked what year would you like us to go back too?
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    Jun 5, 2013, 07:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Yeah cool story from long ago and means nothing now, just because you can't figure someone else putting him on a list as a possible visitor to some seminars. I have often wondered, and even asked what year would you like us to go back too?
    I was rather fond of 1978.
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    Jun 5, 2013, 08:12 AM
    A good year for some and me too. I was making babies and cutting grass while a third of my fellow workers were being laid off. Some came back a few years later, some didn't. Some got laid off yet again, the rest of us got a pay cut. Good thing beer and marijuana was cheap and plentiful.

    Don't want to relive it though, once was enough.
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    Jun 5, 2013, 09:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Yeah cool story from long ago and means nothing now, just because you can't figure someone else putting him on a list as a possible visitor to some seminars. I have often wondered, and even asked what year would you like us to go back too?
    Didn't know the White House held seminars . I thought the White House was the place where policy decisions are made and approved .
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    Jun 5, 2013, 12:45 PM
    It is but it's a BIG place.

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