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    May 29, 2013, 08:05 AM
    Scandal - Bwa, ha ha ha
    Hello:

    Right wingers are looking for scandal everywhere they can. But, I got one I'll bet they won't embrace. Remember when they were yelling and hollering about the Senate NOT passing a budget? THAT was their scandal of the day...

    Guess what? The Senate DID pass a budget, but can you imagine who's blocking the budget conference committee?? That's right. It's right winger Ted Cruz..

    I thought right wingers WANTED the Senate to pass a budget... No, huh? What DO they want?

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    May 29, 2013, 08:13 AM
    I don't believe there was ever a call for the Senate to finally get off their a$$es and pass an IRRESPONSIBLE budget. Thank God for Cruz, someone needs to protect our interests and he seems to have the balls to do it. Love the guy.

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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:14 AM
    Hello again,

    Darrell Issa rips Jay Carney on IRS abuses: A 'paid liar' While the right wing is rubbing their hands in glee, the rest of the world sees a partisan BEING partisan, and is NOT to be trusted to run an investigation..

    The problem with his partisanship, is if he DOES uncover corruption, nobody is going to believe it. Of course, you wingers ALREADY believe it.

    A Sam Irvin, he's NOT.

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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:17 AM
    I think you misunderestimate the public's disdain for the IRS, especially if they've been screwing us over more than normal.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:28 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    I think you misunderstand what Issa is trying to do.. And, I don't disagree with YOU, at all. If Issa uncovers bad conduct, there will be NO sympathy for the IRS. The public will believe ANYTHING about them. The IRS sucks, and everybody knows it, with the millions they waste..

    But Issa doesn't want the IRS. You don't either.. He wants Obama. But, when he says stuff like:
    My Gut Tells Me That Too Many People Knew That This (IRS) Wrongdoing Was Going On'
    nobody, who ISN'T a rabid right winger, will believe him.

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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:29 AM
    I think it's the right who misread the publics disdain for the IRS. It's a lot more stuff that's a lot more important to ordinary people and is only one department of government that needs fixing.

    The more important question everyone wants to know is the solutions that come from it. Impeaching Obama and throwing rocks is what you guys do, but implementing fixes isn't something you righties have ever done.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I think its the right who misread the publics disdain for the IRS. Its a lot more stuff that's a lot more important to ordinary people and is only one department of government that needs fixing.

    The more important question everyone wants to know is the solutions that come from it. Impeaching Obama and throwing rocks is what you guys do, but implementing fixes isn't something you righties have ever done.
    As dysfunctional as this government is I can't help but laugh every time you holler about the right not fixing anything. But I get it, you're just following the rulebook.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    As dysfunctional as this government is I can' help but laugh every time you holler about the right not fixing anything. But I get it, you're just following the rulebook.
    Name three things they have fixed.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I think you misunderstand what Issa is trying to do.. And, I don't disagree with YOU, at all. If Issa uncovers bad conduct, there will be NO sympathy for the IRS. The public will believe ANYTHING about them. The IRS sucks, and everybody knows it, with the millions they waste..

    But Issa doesn't want the IRS. You don't either.. He wants Obama. But, when he says stuff like: nobody, who ISN'T a rabid right winger, will believe him.

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    These people don't watch the Sunday shows, and MSNBC only has a half million viewers on a good night.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Name three things they have fixed.
    You first.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:47 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    These people don't watch the Sunday shows, and MSNBC only has a half million viewers on a good night.
    These people?? You're talking about the American public. I don't think Issa is going to fool 'em.

    As I said, YOU are the ones who believe Obama is up to his neck in scandal. It FITS your narrative from the beginning. But, YOU are the ONLY ones who believe it.

    If you want to convince the American public, like Sam Irvin convinced them about Nixon, you're going to need a serious attack dog, and Issa is a joke...

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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You first.
    Ah, as I thought. You can't, can't you, because there aren't even three.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 08:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    These people??? You're talking about the American public. I don't think Issa is gonna fool 'em.

    As I said, YOU are the ones who believe Obama is up to his neck in scandal. It FITS your narrative from the beginning. But, YOU are the ONLY ones who believe it.

    If you wanna convince the American public, like Sam Irvin convinced them about Nixon, you're gonna need a serious attack dog, and Issa is a joke...

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    Yes, the American public. You aren't going to get much traction with that line of attack because a) most didn't watch Issa and b) they're going to side with him against the IRS. Toss in the fact that the administration's defense seems to be "we're stupid and incompetent" and you're going to need to find another argument to sway the public.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 09:02 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    I don't know what's so hard, here. The public HATES the IRS. They DON'T hate Obama.

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    Jun 3, 2013, 09:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Ah, as I thought. You can't, can't you, because there aren't even three.
    I made no argument for anything being fixed by anyone, I laughed at Tal's logic.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 09:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I dunno whats so hard, here. The public HATES the IRS. They DON'T hate Obama.

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    I don't know what's so hard here, if they didn't hear Issa it ain't going to matter and if they did it ain't going to matter.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 09:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    I made no argument for anything being fixed by anyone
    But you said:
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    I can' help but laugh every time you holler about the right not fixing anything.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 09:17 AM
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    But you said:
    I see you're sticking with making a fool of yourself. Have fun with that, I am.
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    #19

    Jun 3, 2013, 09:19 AM
    Ah yes, the right-winger tactic: "if you repeat something often enough it makes it true".

    I think its gotten to the point that you totally forget what you type 10 minutes after you type it - then you get offended when people show it to you.
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    Jun 3, 2013, 09:46 AM
    Dude, I keep trying to help but you insist on being an idiot. Quoting me out of context and assigning your own interpretation to it doesn't make it true. Now leave me the hell alone, troll.

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