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Jun 4, 2013, 09:05 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Blame??? The buck stops at their desk. They need to FIX it.
But, if you mean blame, as in they DID it, then I'd need a little proof first.. Just a tad will do. I've asked, and asked and even asked again, for some. But you ain't got any. All you got is right wing flapping gums.
excon
And like I said, only in the left's world does an admission of guilt equal no proof.
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Jun 4, 2013, 09:16 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
And like I said, only in the left's world does an admission of guilt equal no proof.
Lets go over it again, shall we?
Although we can argue about the word "admission" or the word "targeted", it misses the point. WHATEVER word you want to attach to the behavior at the IRS is fine with me. But, if Obama didn't order it, it's NOT a scandal. It's BAD behavior. It's bureaucrats mis-spending the taxpayers money. It's outrageous, and somebody needs to be fired..
But, WITHOUT proof that Obama ordered it, or is involved in ANY way, there's no corruption. There's NO scandal. There's NOTHING. There's only right wingers saying the sky is falling. And you been saying that for a few years now.
Excon
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Jun 4, 2013, 09:20 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Lets go over it again, shall we? Although we can argue about the word "admission" or the word "targeted" all we want. But it's beside the point. WHATEVER word you want to attach to the behavior at the IRS is fine with me. But, if Obama didn't order it, it's NOT a scandal. It's BAD behavior. It's bureaucrats mis-spending the taxpayers money. It's BAD, BAD stuff, and somebody needs to be fired..
WITHOUT proof that Obama ordered it, or is involved in ANY way, there's no corruption. There's NO scandal. There's NOTHING. There's only right wingers saying the sky is falling. And you been saying that for a few years now.
excon
A scandal doesn't have to have Obama's name attached to be a scandal. I have yet to blame the White House although he's not without culpability, but this goes way beyond "bad behavior" whatever the heck you think that means.
I have my doubts that when this blows wide open, and it's about to, that you'll take the blinders off.
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Jun 4, 2013, 09:36 AM
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I have my doubts that when this blows wide open, and it's about to, that you'll take the blinders off.
Hello again, Steve:
Like Benghazi was going to break open a month or so ago?? Or like Fast and Furious did?
Bwa, ha ha ha.
Excon
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Jun 4, 2013, 09:54 AM
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The dots keep on connecting to the White House . Let's see.. Douglas Shulman visits the White House 158 times ;and unheard of amt of times for a non-policy director. We found out this weekend that many of his meetings were with Stephanie Cutter ;who was 'Obama For America' Deputy Campaign Director .
Now who is Douglas Schulman ? Yes he was appointed by GW Bush . But he is a Democrat partisan . Make no mistake about it . The public record shows that he made contributions to the DNC in 2004 for the Kerry campaign. Yeah Bush knew how to pick them.
Now who is he married to ? Susan L. Anderson, who is an Occupy Wall Street activist and a senior program adviser for the 'Public Campaign'.'Public Campaign' is a nonprofit, 501(c)3 with a close relationship with 'Public Campaign Action Fund', a 501(c)4 organization which is supported by the Ford Foundation, the Streisand Foundation, and various labor unions.
And what did they do ? The focus of 'Public Campaign's' efforts is campaign finance; its slogan is “Clean Money, Clean Elections.”(I bet they didn't wait months to get their IRS status) .
So what we had was a Dem head of the IRS ,who's wife is an activist against conservative money in politics (I looked at Public Campaign's web site and there are whole sections on Koch Bros. Citizen's United ,etc. but none about Soros money in American politics );who held many meetings in the White House with an Obama campaign director . He was head of the IRS when the IRS was targeting Tea Party and other conservative groups during the election cycle.
Smoking gun ? No . But if not... way to many coincidences to ignore .
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Jun 4, 2013, 10:01 AM
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Hello again, tom: Yawwwwn... I heard he was Obama's gay lover, and he just couldn't stay away.
Excon
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Jun 4, 2013, 10:02 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Like Benghazi was gonna break open a month or so ago??? Or like Fast and Furious did?
Bwa, ha ha ha.
excon
It ain't over dude, but good to know you don't give a crap how corrupt our government is or how many lives and rights it cost.
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Jun 4, 2013, 10:15 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, tom:Yawwwwn.... I heard he was Obama's gay lover, and he just couldn't stay away.
excon
Wouldn't surprise me .
As I said before ; Nixon had defenders until the last day.
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Jun 4, 2013, 10:15 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
but good to know you don't give a crap how corrupt our government is or how many lives and rights it cost.
Because I want PROOF of corruption means I don't care? Dude! You're spinning like a top..
Excon
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Jun 4, 2013, 10:38 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Because I want PROOF of corruption means I don't care? Dude! You're spinning like a top..
excon
If you can't see proof already you're blind. We have proof, we just don't know how high this goes. Yet - the "few rogue" (88 in all so far) employees involved that got thrown under the bus are about to fight back.
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Jun 4, 2013, 01:38 PM
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Hello wingers:
How many visits to the White House does it take to say, "STICK IT TO MY ENEMY'S"?
excon
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Jun 4, 2013, 02:01 PM
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It's suspicious, and that's how investigators sometimes get to the bottom of things, suspicious behavior. I think you know that.
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Jun 4, 2013, 03:14 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello wingers:
How many visits to the White House does it take to say, "STICK IT TO MY ENEMY'S"?
excon
Well a good indicator would be if the head of the IRS had more visits than the Sec State ,the Att General ,the head of HHS ,the head of Homeland Security ,among most of the Emperor's trusted cabinet.
Must be all them Easter Egg rolls.
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Jun 4, 2013, 04:41 PM
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Are there any visit stats for any other presidents?
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Jun 4, 2013, 04:45 PM
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Perhaps . You are free to look for them if you are interested .
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Jun 4, 2013, 04:46 PM
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Wow, that many visits is surely nefarious. You got thee tapes?
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Jun 4, 2013, 04:48 PM
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Nope ,just the visitors log
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Jun 4, 2013, 05:02 PM
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perhaps . You are free to look for them if you are interested .
Obama was the first to release the visitor logs, Bush denied them to interested parties.
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Jun 4, 2013, 05:38 PM
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And your point is ?
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Jun 4, 2013, 06:00 PM
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