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    #21

    Apr 2, 2013, 02:05 PM
    This is one of many such scandals across the country.

    Schools Caught Cheating In Atlanta, Around The Country
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    #22

    Apr 2, 2013, 02:23 PM
    And it continues:
    Idaho teacher who used word 'vagina' during biology lesson faces reprimand | Fox News
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    #23

    Apr 2, 2013, 04:35 PM
    I don't think anyone should in trouble for saying the word vagina but that's small potatoes compared to Atlanta's scandal. Half a million in fraudulent bonuses to the administrator and two hundred teachers involved in cheating? Absolutely inexcusable and disgraceful.
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    Apr 3, 2013, 01:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I don't think anyone should in trouble for saying the word vagina but that's small potatoes compared to Atlanta's scandal. Half a million in fraudulent bonuses to the administrator and two hundred teachers involved in cheating? Absolutely inexcusable and disgraceful.
    They probably didn't get away with pocketing all of those taxpayer/private funds because unlike banks schools are not too big to fail or too big to prosecute. Similar attempts at similar behaviours result in completely different outcomes.

    Offering bonuses for performance in education is just asking people to dabble in fraudulent behaviour. On the other hand, fraudulent behaviour of banks seems a pretty safe bet according to the Eric Holder.

    Perhaps this is because banks only indulge in 'personhood' when if it isn't inconvenient.
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    Apr 3, 2013, 03:01 AM
    Schools have been allowed to fail, but because no one lost big bucks no one cares
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    Apr 3, 2013, 03:10 AM
    Allows to fail ? Nope ,the libs try to fix the problem the only way they know how... throwing more money at the problem.
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    Apr 3, 2013, 04:09 AM
    Ah yes, it's all the "libs" fault again. <sigh>
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    #28

    Apr 3, 2013, 04:15 AM
    Conservatives likely want to follow Pat Robertson's idea:
    Robertson: God gives fewer miracles to 'too-educated Americans' who learn science | The Raw Story
    “We’re so sophisticated, we think we’ve got everything figured out. We know about evolution, we know about Darwin, we know about all these things that says God isn’t real.”

    “We have been inundated with skepticism and secularism,” he conintued. “And overseas, they’re simple, humble. You tell ‘em God loves ‘em and they say, ‘Okay, he loves me.’ You say God will do miracles and they say, ‘Okay, we believe him.’”

    “And that’s what God’s looking for. That’s why they have miracles.”
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    #29

    Apr 3, 2013, 04:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    They probably didn't get away with pocketing all of those taxpayer/private funds because unlike banks schools are not too big to fail or too big to prosecute. Similar attempts at similar behaviours result in completely different outcomes.

    Offering bonuses for performance in education is just asking people to dabble in fraudulent behaviour. On the other hand, fraudulent behaviour of banks seems a pretty safe bet according to the Eric Holder.

    Perhaps this is because banks only indulge in 'personhood' when if it isn't inconvenient.
    I didn't realize this had anything to do with banks.
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    #30

    Apr 3, 2013, 04:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I don't look to him for anything, but I think you miss the point of the quote.
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    #31

    Apr 3, 2013, 04:37 AM
    I get the quote - if you keep people uneducated they are more likely to perceive things as miracles.
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    #32

    Apr 3, 2013, 04:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I didn't realize this had anything to do with banks.

    I guess its relevant to ones perception of excusable and inexcusable. If one belong to the ruling elite then apparently such behaviour is excusable.
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    Apr 3, 2013, 04:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I get the quote - if you keep people uneducated they are more likely to perceive things as miracles.
    Uh, no.
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    Apr 3, 2013, 04:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    I guess its relevant to ones perception of excusable and inexcusable. If one belong to the ruling elite then apparently such behaviour is excusable.
    I don't differentiate between excusable or inexcusable fraud. Fraud is fraud and when it's perpetrated on our children by those entrusted to look out for their best interests I find especially heinous.
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    #35

    Apr 3, 2013, 05:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I don't differentiate between excusable or inexcusable fraud. Fraud is fraud and when it's perpetrated on our children by those entrusted to look out for their best interests I find especially heinous.
    Sorry, I withdraw my comment. I was just being a nitpicker.
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    Apr 3, 2013, 05:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    Sorry,. I withdraw my comment. I was just being a nitpicker.
    You are good at it. :)
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    #37

    Apr 4, 2013, 12:04 PM
    Two school administrators got caught cheating in Philadelphia, but unlike the Atlanta case it looks like they'll not face criminal charges and get to keep their pensions. Perhaps even teach some day at another fine school.

    Two Phila. principals lose credentials in cheating scandal
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    #38

    Apr 4, 2013, 12:10 PM
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3433424
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    #39

    Apr 4, 2013, 01:22 PM
    Sticking with the useless responses, eh?
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    #40

    Apr 4, 2013, 03:40 PM
    The more you post all those issues with your screwed up educational system the more you validate my comment.

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