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Mar 27, 2013, 07:09 AM
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Actually there is another motive... Obama thinks there is Oil under it and he can't stop drilling on private land, so he siezes it can calls it Federal land.
North Dakota is putting a wedge in his no new oil policy.
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Mar 27, 2013, 07:11 AM
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A) The federal government already owns nearly a third of our land
B) The federal government SUCKS at managing it.
C) Feeding people is more important than the Delta Smelt.
D) It has nothing to do with climate change, it's all about Obama's legacy
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Mar 27, 2013, 07:14 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
No.. we are tired of the people opposed to oil... using oil however. They should have to register and practice what they preach. That leaves more oil for the rest of us.
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Mar 27, 2013, 07:21 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
It seems to be contributing greatly to our area economy at the moment
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Mar 27, 2013, 07:33 AM
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So does road construction in our area. Its booming without oil.
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Mar 27, 2013, 07:37 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
So does road construction in our area. Its booming without oil.
I know, you can't get anywhere in the Metroplex.
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Mar 27, 2013, 07:49 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
So does road construction in our area. Its booming without oil.
So they how are they building roads without using oil? Concrete and slave labor?
Aphault is an oil product... so no oil no blacktop. No oil no trucks... no oil no heavy equipment.
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Mar 27, 2013, 07:58 AM
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Still believe that peak oil myth ? None of the new oil that can be tapped into by horizontal drilling and fracking is considered in the known reserve. The Bakken alone doubles the known reserve and the Wiki article doesn't take into accounts new discoveries like Marcellus Shale in NY ,or Monterey Shale in Cal.. . which if anyone in California or NY had any sense ;would be developed immediately .
Add to that the abundance of natural gas in these same finds ,and the US has energy reserved that rival the Middle East .
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Mar 27, 2013, 08:29 AM
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What's the big hurry? Flooding the markets with American oil and gas would do what to the markets? Especially given we are moving to surpluses ourselves. Especially given the subsidies that oil companies to name one already enjoy.
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Mar 27, 2013, 08:36 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
new discoveries like Marcellus Shale in NY ,or Monterey Shale in Cal. ....which if anyone in California or NY had any sense ;would be developed immediately .
Add to that the abundance of natural gas in these same finds ,and the US has energy reserved that rival the Middle East .
And let's wreak havoc to the environment...
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Mar 27, 2013, 08:38 AM
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There's plenty of oil in Texas, Smoothy, and construction jobs pay very well, but the secret was leveraging stimulis money and having the projects ready to go. They actually have been building like crazy for 10 years, and were not as hard hit by the housing bubble but as other areas of the country. Not saying there are no down sides to be resolved, but unlike other states, the legislature has more authority than the govenor, and more business sense.
No brag, just fact!
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Mar 27, 2013, 08:40 AM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
And let's wreak havoc to the environment....
Oh, drink a little fracking fluid and chill.
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Mar 27, 2013, 08:42 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Oh, drink a little fracking fluid and chill.
Heck, I'm at the end of my life anyway, so who cares what I breathe and eat and drink.
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Mar 27, 2013, 08:44 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I know, you can't get anywhere in the Metroplex.
Rush hour is a BEEEEEEEEEYATCH!!
 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Oh, drink a little fracking fluid and chill.
Don't smoke or be near an open flame if you do.
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Mar 27, 2013, 08:45 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Whats the big hurry? Flooding the markets with American oil and gas would do what to the markets? Especially given we are moving to surpluses ourselves. Especially given the subsidies that oil companies to name one already enjoy.
It means Americans get rich from our money instead of some towel heads in the desert.
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Mar 27, 2013, 08:48 AM
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There are no poor oil men in America.
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Mar 27, 2013, 08:53 AM
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Mar 27, 2013, 09:13 AM
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Scientific Study Links Flammable Drinking Water to Fracking - ProPublica
Because its drinkable, doesn't mean its not flammable. Hope the guy didn't belch while he smoked.
Under pressure from fracking company, EPA abandons Texas family with flammable well water | Righting Injustice | Righting Injustice
The Associated Press, however, obtained a confidential report that may throw some light on why the EPA suddenly removed itself from this case.
According to an AP report, “the EPA had scientific evidence against the driller, Range Resources, but changed course after the company threatened not to cooperate with a national study into a common form of drilling called hydraulic fracturing.” Regulators then set aside their analysis pointing to the drilling operation as a likely source for the contaminated well water. Other studies have demonstrated that methane concentrations are 17 times higher in drinking water wells near fracking sites than in normal wells while the fracking chemicals themselves leach into the water table.
Waterless Fracking Makes Headway in Texas, Slowly | The Texas Tribune
Yeah come drink some of this stuff.
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