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    #61

    Nov 15, 2012, 08:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Why not just answer him instead of insulting him?
    Why not troll someone else for a while?
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    #62

    Nov 15, 2012, 08:33 AM
    I find it ridicule the repubs are hollering voter fraud. I mean 2 million cheater? Really? Even 10 thousand is ludicrous, considering we also check the names off here before you vote.

    Its one thing to say WE out cheated YOU, and another to prove your outlandish claims since it's the STATES that are responsible for maintenance of voter registration rolls, and republican governors are lousy at it. Especially Florida (AGAIN).

    Romney is blaming the gifts to minorities for the turnout, doubling down on his 47% comments, which was a big reason for his downfall in the first place.
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    #63

    Nov 15, 2012, 08:39 AM
    Hello tal:

    Romney is blaming the gifts to minorities
    If Romney had won, I'd be blaming HIM for the gifts he was promising to give to the rich.

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    #64

    Nov 15, 2012, 08:47 AM
    Why not troll someone else for a while?
    What did you find offensive about my question?
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    #65

    Nov 15, 2012, 09:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello tal:

    If Romney had won, I'd be blaming HIM for the gifts he was promising to give to the rich.

    excon
    Like giving the market a chance to create jobs instead of penalizing the job creators?
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    #66

    Nov 15, 2012, 09:14 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    That's what you SAY.. It's what Romney SAID. However, that notion has been UNDENIABLY REPUDIATED by a MAJORITY of the voters in this great nation of ours. I don't think that trickle down crap will EVER be raised again.

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    Nov 15, 2012, 09:26 AM
    The market wasn't creating jobs on main street, just in foreign countries, and those were low paying sweat shops. That's since Bush was elected. Even Walmart fortune depend on sweat shops, low wage and tax breaks to be profitable.

    Wall Street and the so called job creators have always put profits over people and created personal wealth for themselves, and trickled down whatever they could to the rest. Guess you have forgot they caused this economic global mess, but have not been adversely affected thanks to US, and have been VERY slow to be part of the solution.

    They were waiting for Romney to give them more money, for even less work. That is no longer an option, is it? Maybe its time they earned that "job creator" title they spout so much.
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    #68

    Nov 15, 2012, 09:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Romney is blaming the gifts to minorities for the turnout, doubling down on his 47% comments, which was a big reason for his downfall in the first place.
    If all 47 million food stamp recipients voted for President Obama, it would account for 75.4 percent of Obama's 62.3 million votes.
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    #69

    Nov 15, 2012, 09:33 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    And, your problem with people voting in themselves interest is what?

    excon
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    #70

    Nov 15, 2012, 09:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    That's what you SAY.. It's what Romney SAID. However, that notion has been UNDENIABLY REPUDIATED by a MAJORITY of the voters in this great nation of ours. I don't think that trickle down crap will EVER be raised again.

    excon
    I said nothing about "trickle down," I said get out of the way. I'm no accountant like Clete is, but I do know you aren't going to grow the economy from the bottom up and by expanding the welfare state.

    I also don't know get you guys' idea of freedom. One minute you whine about getting government out of your life so you can smoke weed, marry who you want or kill your baby, the next you're demanding government involvement in everything else.
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    #71

    Nov 15, 2012, 09:44 AM
    Obama didn't make them poor, but Romney would keep them poor, he said so! Do the math.
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    #72

    Nov 15, 2012, 09:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    And, your problem with people voting in their self interest is what?

    excon
    I think we should all just suck off the government teat, don't you?
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    #73

    Nov 15, 2012, 09:54 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    We know you despise the 47%. Romney does too. That's why he LOST. I suppose if it were up to you, they couldn't vote.

    Tell me, are you going to take your free "stuff" and suck off the government teat when you turn 65? Of course you are, hypocrite.

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    #74

    Nov 15, 2012, 10:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    We know you despise the 47%. Romney does too. That's why he LOST. I suppose if it were up to you, they couldn't vote.

    Tell me, are you gonna take your free "stuff" and suck off the government teat when you turn 65? Of course you are, hypocrite.

    excon
    Would you like to just keep lying about us or are you interested in dialogue? I love the poor, I help the poor - but I have no respect for able-bodied people unwilling to lift a finger to help themselves. And hopefully when I'm 65 I'll be able to draw from what I paid for all those decades. If it's free why the hell does the government take money out of my every check?
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    #75

    Nov 15, 2012, 10:30 AM
    That's not free stuff . That's insurance policies we are forced to contribute into. Oh wait ;that's right... SCOTUS just confirmed it's a tax.. never mind.
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    #76

    Nov 15, 2012, 10:47 AM
    Maybe these workers bringing down their company will get free government cupcakes .

    Hostess CEO gives striking workers Thursday deadline - kwch.com
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    #77

    Nov 15, 2012, 11:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Maybe these workers bringing down their company will get free government cupcakes .

    Hostess CEO gives striking workers Thursday deadline - kwch.com
    If they'd start making all fat-free, flavor-free products they could probably get a government bailout.
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    #78

    Nov 15, 2012, 08:14 PM
    Hello again, Steve:

    but I have no respect for able-bodied people unwilling to lift a finger to help themselves.
    Me neither.. But, that's about 10% of the people - NOT 47%! You guys really DO have trouble with ARITHMETIC.

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    #79

    Nov 15, 2012, 09:41 PM
    How do you know it is even 10% Ex, do you start making assumptions about minorities or various parts of the country. Look we all know someone who is shiftless and won't try because they have been knocked back too many times, but people also have to have opportunity, it's no good saying move, because that costs money and you still don't know if you will be better off. To do as Romney did and write off 47% of the country is straight out prejudice.

    What the Republicans should be doing is fighting for jobs, stopping the exodus to China and India. Surely you have plenty of cheap labour somewhere over there, with 8% unemployment there has to be someone who wants a job, or maybe not.
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    #80

    Nov 16, 2012, 05:07 AM
    Yeah that'll work . You're too smart to not know the consequences of protectionism.

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