[paraclete]

Whether the government calls it the way you would like or not, one thing that is not going to get you out of the trough is current capitalist behaviour. There must be investment and risk taking, all you have at this moment is profit taking

[tomder55]

What you are getting right now is an asset sell off because the rich don't want to get fleeced next year.

[paraclete]

So sell your assets at a loss to avoid tax, eh, makes a lot of sense. Do they actually teach that sort of logic over there?

[talaniman]

so sell your assets at a loss to avoid tax, eh, makes a lot of sense. Do they actually teach that sort of logic over there?

No. But rich guys are in there own world here.

[paraclete]

So it might seem, perhaps if I apply that psychology to my investments I might make money

[talaniman]

Rich guys have lawyers and accountants and tax shelters. Do you?

[speechlesstx]

so sell your assets at a loss to avoid tax, eh, makes a lot of sense

It's just math, they didn't get rich by being stupid.

[NeedKarma]

It's just math, they didn't get rich by being stupid.

Does that mean that you're stupid?

[paraclete]

Rich guys have lawyers and accountants and tax shelters. Do you?

I am an accountant

[speechlesstx]

Does that mean that you're stupid?

Nice. Grow up.

[speechlesstx]

I am an accountant

The explain the French.

French CEOs: 'Help!'

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On Nov. 5, veteran corporate chieftain Louis Gallois released a government-commissioned report calling for “shock treatment” to restore French competitiveness. And on Oct. 28, a group of 98 CEOs published an open letter to Hollande that said public-sector spending, which at 56 percent of gross domestic product is the highest in Europe, “is no longer supportable.” The letter was signed by the CEOs of virtually every major French company. (The few exceptions included utility Electricité de France, which is government controlled.)

The outcry is unusual for France Inc. which has tended to lobby behind the scenes and avoid public criticism of the government. That’s perhaps not surprising, since many CEOs attended the same schools as the country’s top politicians and often worked in government before going into business. De Castries was a classmate of Hollande’s at the elite Ecole Nationale d’Administration; Serge Weinberg, chairman of pharmaceutical giant Sanofi (SAN:FP) and a signatory of the Oct. 28 letter, used to work for Socialist Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius.

The problems they’re complaining about aren’t new. Heavy taxes and social charges required to support high government spending have eroded corporate profitability. In the l’Express interview, de Castries says that on average, the government charges incurred by his company for each employee are more than double the employee’s take-home pay. French labor costs are the second-highest in Europe, after Belgium, as companies are burdened with rigid and devilishly complicated work rules. No surprise, then, that operating margins at French companies have shrunk almost 40 percent over the past decade, while those of companies in Germany—where painful labor-market reforms were carried out—have risen about 40 percent.

No worries though, as their economy tanks further they'll make up the revenue and save money on health care costs with a "Nutella tax."

[paraclete]

You have lost me, what does la belle France have to do with anything. Any french solution is uniquely french

[smoothy]

52% of the vote isn't whooping up on anyone since there was massive vote fraud in swing states... that pushed his numbers that high.

[paraclete]

Voting fraud in the US, now there is a new one. I expect you will conveniently find a lot of defective voting machines

[smoothy]

Voting fraud in the US, now there is a new one. I expect you will conveniently find a lot of defective voting machines

DO you have to present ID to vote in Australia? The dems have fought to allow anyone that shows up to vote without any proof of who they are...

That's why and how the fraud happens... and a required Photo ID would stop most of it.

http://watchdogwire.com/blog/2012/10...g-voter-fraud/

Keep in mind he is the son of a 11 term member of the House or Representatives Jim Moran and the Nephew of the DNC Chairman for the state of Virginia... he is not a nobody...

He didn't make a slip of the tongue.. he went on and on and on and on... in the video I linked

[paraclete]

DO you have to present ID to vote in Austrailia? The dems have fought to allow anyone that shows up to vote without any proof of who they are....

thats why and how the fraud happens...and a required Photo ID would stop most of it.

New Video Shows Son Of Rep. Moran (D-VA) Encouraging Voter Fraud

Keep in mind he is the son of a 11 term member of the House or Representatives Jim Moran and the Nephew of the DNC Chairman for the state of Virginia...he is not a nobody....

he didn't make a slip of the tongue..he went on and on and on and on....in the video I linked

No I don't need ID to vote. I just need to identify myself and be marked off the roll. I am given a registration card but who knows where it is after all these years. We have photo ID drivers licenses should there be any question. At some point in the process we have proven our identity and it is taken on face value from that point. The incidence of voter fraud is low here, it comes with compulsory voting, the opportunities are fewer. If my name showed up more than once they might get upset about it

[smoothy]

No I don't need ID to vote. I just need to identify myself and be marked off the roll. I am given a registration card but who knows where it is after all these years. We have photo ID drivers licenses should there be any question. At some point in the process we have proven our identity and it is taken on face value from that point. The incidence of voter fraud is low here, it comes with compulsory voting, the opportunities are fewer. If my name showed up more than once they might get upset about it

Favorite tactic they use and have for a VERY long time... is using dead people s names to register... or using names of people in nursing homes who shall we say... aren't exactly in control of their facillities due to old age or medical problems... and vote for them.

If they never have to present a Photo ID nobody would be wise unless they actually really, REALLY check the voter rolls or someone who happened to know them saw them do it...

[paraclete]

The parties are strong here on visitation and arranging postal votes, who checks content I don't know, but we have a fairly tight register of births, deaths, etc and it is linked to the electoral rolls. The electoral process is a federal process here, tightly administered and as it is compulsory, the process checks and you are fined if you don't vote. We don't have your machine led sophistication but we also don't appear to have the problems. It is the same with electoral boundries, we don't often get allegations of gerrymandering at least not in the southern states, the way the system works is different and harder to rig

[speechlesstx]

You have lost me, what does la belle France have to do with anything. Any french solution is uniquely french

You're easily lost for an accountant.

[NeedKarma]

You're easily lost for an accountant.

Why not just answer him instead of insulting him?