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tomder55 · Nov 1, 2012, 04:12 AM

I'm with Ex on this . If the plan is to make it legal then what they are doing is the equivance of the Wickard ruling. Yes it's legal but don't grow it . The government just replaces illegal cartels with legal cartels run by the biggest cartel in the world... the government . The liquor industry is a good comparison. It is not illegal for me to brew my own beer ,or ferment my own wine with proper permitting and restrictions on qty. The ATF has very strict rules on distilling alcohol. To legally distill liquor, you need to fill out a lengthy application for a license, post a bond, have approved equipment, produce extensive records and file timely reports. You will also be subject to a special tax on every bottle of liquor you produce.

speechlesstx · Nov 1, 2012, 06:32 AM

And by the way, doesn't Washington do the same thing for distilled spirits, sell them only in state-owned or state contracted stores?

talaniman · Nov 1, 2012, 12:07 PM

I think that it's the state who gives the license to sell liquor to businesses, but has no ownership or franchise interest in them.

speechlesstx · Nov 1, 2012, 12:42 PM

Washington may have changed, but there are states where liquor stores are all state-owned, though some allow sales of beer and wine in grocery and convenience stores such as North Carolina.

talaniman · Nov 1, 2012, 01:50 PM

Wow! I truly didn't know that. Hope the bars aren't state owned. For some reason that bothers me!!

cdad · Nov 1, 2012, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Wow! I truly didn't know that. Hope the bars aren't state owned. For some reason that bothers me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In many states that have state owned liquor stores they have bars next door to them as they are only allowed to sell "mixed" drinks. You byob and they serve you for a nominal fee.

talaniman · Nov 1, 2012, 02:01 PM

Bet there are a few cops waiting down the road for patrons too!!

speechlesstx · Nov 1, 2012, 02:19 PM

I didn't know it until I visited my sister in Tennessee who moved there from North Carolina.

speedball1 · Nov 1, 2012, 05:08 PM

Paraclete asks UOTE]well speedy do you do speed too?[/QUOTE]
Where do you think I got the handle "Speed"? Back in my drinking days I was the veep of y\the badest motorcycle club n Tampa. I've been sober now for over 35 years. I don't ride any more and I grew out of drugs like speed when I stopped drinking. To tell you the truth A lot of things changed when I quit drinking. I became straight, respectable and boring as hell! Tom

paraclete · Nov 1, 2012, 07:33 PM

Well then Tom it is good you gave up booze and drugs cause when you get older these things are not good for you

speechlesstx · Nov 2, 2012, 06:12 AM

I became straight, respectable and boring as hell! Tom

I can verify the last part.

speedball1 · Nov 2, 2012, 08:22 AM

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Well speedy do you do speed too?

Where do you think I got the handle Speed? Back in my drinking dayze I was veep of the badest motorcycle club in Tampa. My club rode under the Outlaws umbrella, We did a lot of things back 40 years ago. I've been sober for over 35 years and when I stopped drinking I quit hard drugs and the club and turned into a straight, respectable and really boring guy. And now you know the rest of the story. Tom

speechlesstx · Nov 2, 2012, 08:23 AM

Is it Groundhog Day?

excon · Nov 5, 2012, 07:52 PM

Hello again:

Something's weird... Not only is the state going to legalize marijuana, but the proposition has virtually NO opposition.. I don't understand that at all..

Any ideas WHY?

excon

paraclete · Nov 5, 2012, 09:22 PM

Well you know know what you want do you? When you get it you can't recognise it what state is that; Euphoria?

speedball1 · Nov 6, 2012, 06:43 AM

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Is it Groundhog Day

Now why would you be asking that? Did your head pop out of the ground before you went back down in your hole? Just having a little fun with you Spineless. Because you're such a fun guy. Don't forget to vote! Tom

speechlesstx · Nov 6, 2012, 07:37 AM

No Speednut, since you posted the same answer twice I was just wondering if we were stuck in Groundhog Day or you were just demonstrating symptoms of Alzheimer's or some other brain impairment.

excon · Nov 6, 2012, 08:19 AM

Hello again,

It is my fervent hope that we can come together as a country to SOLVE our problems... But, it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

With the authority invested in me, I now pronounce this thread CLOSED.

excon

speedball1 · Nov 6, 2012, 08:35 AM

With the authority invested in me, I now pronounce this thread CLOSED.

AMEN! Let's give it a nice burial. It's been a fun ride, R.I.P. Excon, I can close this thread for you if you wish, Regards, Tom

excon · Nov 8, 2012, 07:56 AM

Hello again,

We're OPEN for business... I have some pressing questions... Before you answer, take a hit. Relax, and STOP yelling..

Marijuana is now LEGAL in my state, or at least semi so.. The over the top drug warrior, Mitt Romney got defeated.. The choom guy is our president.

If he doesn't move aggressively to STOP, both my state and Colorado, from implementing our new laws, the war against marijuana is OVER.

Or, am I smokin too much??

excon