[paraclete]

Tom you have missed the debate, the question isn't whether Romney pays a lesser tax rate than any other candidate, but whether he pays a fair share of tax relative to others. You see Tom he is proposing tax cuts from which he will benefit so he is fair game. Romney might benefit from charitable donations, but he might also benefit from offshore accounts, where as those whose support he seeks cannot do what he does.

We have seen your views Tom you would impose a tax on lower income people they are not subject to now, not a good look

[talaniman]

Ryan to Ohio Woman Re Welfare: "Teach a man to fish & you feed him for a lifetime. Don't feed fish." - Democratic Underground

Great advice!!

[tomder55]

Tom you have missed the debate, the question isn't whether Romney pays a lesser tax rate than any other candidate, but whether he pays a fair share of tax relative to others. You see Tom he is proposing tax cuts from which he will benefit so he is fair game. Romney might benefit from charitable donations, but he might also benefit from offshore accounts, where as those whose support he seeks cannot do what he does.

We have seen your views Tom you would impose a tax on lower income people they are not subject to now, not a good look

He has less than 1 % of his assets in foreign accounts. I bring up the comparison because the Dems didn't get their panties in a wad over Kerry's effective tax rate ;or the fact that the Kennedy family had most of their money in foreign accounts.

[paraclete]

Hey Tom I know how to fish, do you, I know what a spade is for, what an axe is for, do you?You want to argue whether various candidates have a tax bill what I say is show me whether they can get their hands dirty. Someone wants to say I pay tax, I support charities, what I say is how much did it hurt, did it stop you eating?

You want to say he only has a small percentage in offshore accounts and I say why does he have any, and how much did he have over time? The issue isn't the degree but the question of substance over form. Why should the Dems question their own candidates, that is your job. But you didn't think of it, did you?

[tomder55]

I see nothing particularly wrong with having money overseas. It's his property . If he or anyone else can get a better deal then why not ? Did he violate any laws ? No . Therefore he paid his share under our system. Want to change it ? Fine... a flat tax is the trick .

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

I agree with you... I see nothing particularly wrong about having money in the Caymans. But, the average American taxpayer DOES. It's NOT a matter of whether he cheated or not.. It's a matter of whether it LOOKS like he cheated, and it does. Personally, I think avoiding taxes is a very patriotic thing to do... Evidently Romney thinks so too.

But, again, tom, it's the PERCEPTION that counts - NOT the reality...

For me, it's deeper than that, though. If he DIDN'T know how the average American taxpayer views tax havens, then he SHOULD have. That's a fatal error.. It shows that he's out of touch with the common man... He had PLENTY of time to rectify it. He didn't... It doesn't matter HOW much money he made or how many jobs he created/shipped off. It LOOKS like he cheated on his taxes, and people don't like that.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Ryan to Ohio Woman Re Welfare: "Teach a man to fish & you feed him for a lifetime. Don't feed fish." - Democratic Underground

Great advice!!!!

"the zombie-eyed granny-starver from space?"

Yeah, your side is all about peace, love and bringing Americans together. At least Ryan knows how many states are in the republic.

[talaniman]

What does don't feed the fish mean to a person who works two jobs and still needs welfare?

[paraclete]

How can it be in the land of opportunity that you could work two jobs and still need welfare.
A in this time when jobs are scarse, how do you get two jobs?
B. if you have an income why do you need welfare?

This statement, as Tal implies, means there is something wrong with the system

[tomder55]

Good tag team action ! Tal constucts the strawman and Clete knocks it down

[talaniman]

Hey, I just quoted the your guy and wanted a translation as to what the hell he was talking about. You don't know either huh?

[TUT317]

good tag team action ! Tal constucts the strawman and Clete knocks it down

Tom, you obviously believe in not feeding the fish. I think it is code.

Tut

[tomder55]

Even Jesse Jackson understood it . He often quoted this famous proverb . "Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
What progressives believe is that if a man won't fish for himself ;give him food stamps for fish.

[NeedKarma]

What progressives believe is that if a man won't fish for himself ;give him food stamps for fish.

Yes, that's EXACTLY what progressives (whatever they are) think. You nailed it!!

[excon]

What progressives believe is that if a man won't fish for himself ;give him food stamps for fish.

Hello again, tom:

It IS true... The 47% are moochers. It's ALSO true, that THAT idea will be discarded into the dustbin of history when your party is PURGED of that kind of out of step thinking... That'll happen AFTER being defeated in the LANDSLIDE that awaits you.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hey, I just quoted the your guy and wanted a translation as to what the hell he was talking about. You don't know either huh?

At least he can speak without a teleprompter.

[excon]

At least he can speak without a teleprompter.

Hello again, Steve:

And he'll be welcome on the has been circuit after he's defeated in the landslide that awaits him.

Bwa, ha ha ha.

excon

[NeedKarma]

At least he can speak without a teleprompter.

Romney uses teleprompters.. a lot.

romney teleprompter - Google Search

[speechlesstx]

Romney uses teleprompters.. a lot.

romney teleprompter - Google Search

I'm sure they all do, but I was referring to Ryan. Try to keep up.

[NeedKarma]

I'm sure they all do, but I was referring to Ryan. Try to keep up.

Oh, so your comment is really irrelevant if they all do.