[rrr]

first of all, thanks s2tp.
I don't think he is jealous, although it might be. I haven't looked at it in that way. He says he doesn't like her because he is a very calm guy and she is, well, not too calm. One of them are not (he's my best friend and not the one who made a fuss about me talking to H. and from now on we will call him E.)
but the other one (who made a fuss about me talking to H. lets call him P.) I'm not quiet sure about. He seems interested, but I'm not sure...

12-16 (Most take longer, but most 16 y/o's think they know everything.. lol) ages 12-16 most people are realizing that the world is not about games and toys... its when we start to see the vastness of the world, and realize things about 'fitting in' and then we start to look at ourselves and try to figure out who we are, how we fit in, and most of all 'what do other people think about me?'

the quoted area is very correct to how I feel, except for:

and realize things about 'fitting in' and then we start to look at ourselves and try to figure out who we are, how we fit in, and most of all 'what do other people think about me?'

I don't really care what other people think about me ( I have and am being bullyed verbally at school but don't care) but what I think about myself. Unfourtunatley, I am sort of a perfectionist...

So are you involved in any activities? Like any sports or clubs at school? That's always a good way to make more friends and get more comfortable with other people.

well, I do go to judo once a week and I help others train judo once a week.

Music is just self expression.My guess is that you feel you have been sheltered and this music makes you feel free to express what's inside of you. I hope when you listen to it, that you don't feel violent or angry though... that may be what your parents are afraid of. Maybe if you talk to them and tell them why you like this music, maybe even share it with them and reassure them that you are not into the bands lifestyle, you just like the sound of it...

even though I can stand being verbally bullyed, I can't help that it sometimes irritates me. In most of those situations, I often listen to metal. It "vents" my anger and helps me carry on.
however, sometimes I just want to be left alone. I'm irritated often irritated and just don't feel like engaging in any social activity.

[s2tp]

rrr,

I can relate very much! I was the same growing up, I did get picked on by a few people and even though I just brushed it off, it still got to me sometimes...

Music has always been my escape, a vent as you say. I grew up spending a lot of time alone, and I remain that way today.. I just like my company better than I like some people... lol.

Either way, there is nothing wrong with the music you listen to, or why you listen to it. I would like to think your parents could understand that... but you know them best...

As for this girl, as others said, its common to have a crush at your age. It sucks that she doesn't seem to like you back... but in all honesty I don't think you should worry about getting 'involved' with girls so seriously yet. You've got plenty of years ahead to struggle with them... hehe, no reason to start early.

As for your friends they shouldn't be telling you who to hang out with or who not to. If they have a problem with it then hang out with whoever you want away from them, and hang out with him or the guys alone if need be. I think everyone should have a variety of friends, and if you enjoy your time with her then stay friends...

I hope all goes well!

[dono2007]

Hey man I'm 15 and I know how you feel, chicks can be annoying! Very annoying, I seem to go completely overboard and act all stupid when a girl I like is near... but the whole point is to get to know them first and then think about getting close to them.
Ive been through many cases such as yours even though I'm only 15(many as in lik 3, but neway) and usually thr not interested, well at least they seem interested but their rely not cos they themselves don't know what the hell there doing!! :mad:... my point=good things come to those who wait.(but don't wait too long)

[rrr]

well, that is pretty much the only thing i can do [wait]. :(

chicks can be annoying!! very annoying, i seem to go completely overboard and act all stupid when a girl i like is near...

things marked in italic = i don't agree
things marked in bold = i agree

chicks can be annoying! Very annoying

likeing a girl can be annoying, girls in general aren't supposably irritating...

check your spelling next time :mad:


To others:
well, i like metal and so does H, but my friends (especially the one who doesn't like H.)
doesn't like metal. And i think that is why he doesn't like H.

[Ging1994]

Ask her out build some confidenes even bring a friend if you have to or do it by phone that this is off topic but it is so awsome you like metal because I love it and I deal with the same problem with my parents not likeing that type of music much but they prefer hip hop

[rrr]

Thanks, but I don't think she would go out with me. I now know she is together with a 16-year old (possibly two, but I don't know... ), and it concerns me a bit. I'm scared that she gets hurt; this is not exactly the safest neighbourhood. Her parents don't know about this, and I guess if I tell them, she will probably hate me (at least she doesn't think I'm a total idiot right now). I guess I'm just another idiot...

[rrr]

What, did I end this question now or what??
*wispers to self* darn, now I sound like I'm simply complaining...
*normal voice* sorry, I didn't mean to sound rude. Apologies.

Now H ignores me and E. Instead she turns all her attention to P. I sometimes try to talk to her, but she somewhat pushes me away. She feels sorry for him because he is also being bullyed. He started crying during a lesson when someone said something mean to him. I, on the contrary, haven't cried for at least 2 years now. I wish I could, but I can't. I jusat bottle it up and continue living. But I feal like this bomb has to explode sometime.

But just having her near me is enough for me... it's all I've got now...

"What I really meant to say // is i am sorry for the way I am"
- Cold, Cross Fade

[rebel-2]

Hey, I understand where your coming from. For now... lets forget about "h", the bullies that bully you, you got to stand up to them mate. I know its easy said than done but you have to do something. Stand up and show your existence.

And for the girls (H) your 13 and you have a long long time for all that, I'm not saying now's not the time but don't stress too much. Most girls tend to like guys for who they are. ( surprised?! well trust me their freaky in that way)

:)

[Jack_Jack 238]

Try to talk to her. Make sure to be nice, try to be yourself around her. Also do not listen to what your friends say and go along of what your heart desires. And if they say she is ugly or is stupid just ignore them it shouldn't matter about looks it depends on their personality. Lol. They are probably jealous lol

[rrr]

Try to talk to her. Make sure to be nice, try to be yourself around her. Also do not listen to what your friends say and go along of what your heart desires. And if they say she is ugly or is stupid just ignore them it shouldn't matter about looks it depends on their personality. Lol. They are probably jealous lol

Those lol's make me a bit uncertain. Are you serious?? If so,
Yeah, I ignore them when they say she's weird. I try top be myself around her, but it's just not enough

the bullies that bully you, you got to stand up to them mate. I know its easy said than done but you have to do something. Stand up and show your existence.

I stand up againts them and I'm proud of it. :cool:

And for the girls (H) your 13 and you have a long long time for all that, I'm not saying now's not the time but don't stress too much. Most girls tend to like guys for who they are. ( surprised?! well trust me their freaky in that way

I'm 13, and my birthday is 21 February [post made 29 jan.]. I don't think she likes me for who I am in THE way. And why are most people who post here telling me that girls in general are weird *annoyed*

I'M STILL PRETTY SCARED THAT SHE GETS HURT: SEE PREVIOUS POSTS
People WHO WANT TO MAKE NEW POSTS - READ THE ENTIRE THREAD PLEASE - IT'S NOT TOO LONG

[rrr]

I am so down today. H is probably going to go to another school. It just made me so sad. I wrote this poem to show you how I feel:

Now you leave me... here in this hell...
You cause me this pain, and then you, the only thing I have to cling onto, you leave.
I don't blame you, this is my demons. But only you can slay them.
It all feels distant. I see, hear and feel. But my senses are numb by the deafening pain.
I breathe, eat and walk. I live, but still I am dead. Why did you kill me?
If I only could be with you... I would never leave you.
Someone else... always someone else... never me...
I scream in agony, but no one hears me. They only hear themselves and others.
Why can't you see me? This true pain/love shines with a dark lustre.
Why can't you see? I don't mean to force you to love me, but still, all I want is you...
I would do anything for you. Kill. Hurt. Die. Your love is priceless...
Oh, why?

[Capuchin]

Cheer up! You're only 13.

It's good to get your feelings on paper like that though. Trust that things will feel better someday, it just takes time :)

[rrr]

*noticed answer - cheers up a little*

[rrr]

Ok... an update...

She cuts herself!! T-T
I'm 14 and as unhappy as ever...
But at least she doesn't think I'm an idiot...

[Capuchin]

Good to hear from you, don't worry about the cutting too much, it's an attention thing and is surprisingly common around your age.

Stop being unhappy!

[rrr]

I can't! Everything seems so heavy...

Attention? She hasn't told anyone (execpt her closest friends, possibly... )
So, I also forgot to say that the bullys have started picking on me again. HORAY!

[Capuchin]

I know what you mean by everything seems heavy. You need to open your eyes a little and enjoy the world, it really is a beautiful place.

Yeah, still don't worry about the cutting. It is for attention, even if she tells nobody.

[rrr]

God, she is the best person I have ever met. KAWAI!!
At least she has said that she doesn't dislike my looks... :eek: I thought that would be the last thing she would like...

[rrr]

Well, I simply hate myself. I can't stand things I have said and done, I hurt myself in different ways (Not anything that could permanently damage my health), and now I'm doing worse in school, too. I'm just so tired of life right now...