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    Jun 29, 2012, 09:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You guys keep whining about never having so and so testify, well the DoJ won't make them available and the FBI and the DEA never submitted anything the Committee requested.
    Hello again, Steve:

    What's interesting in this election season (or any other for that matter), is that for every event, we have TWO sets of facts. And, they're not even close.. There's not even an ATTEMPT at finding out exactly WHAT the truth is. It's DESTROY the other guy so you can WIN at all costs, and shove your stuff down HIS throat.

    That's my assessment of what the right wing is doing.. My bet is that's what you think the left is doing. Whatdya know about that?

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    Jun 29, 2012, 09:26 AM
    It's a silly election season for sure but this is not new, we've been asking for answers on F&F for what, 2 years? The difference here is the left is busy mocking Romney for his dog on roof and smearing him as a bigot for an alleged high school incident.

    I'm asking what Holder knew about an operation the allowed thousands of guns to walk into the hands of Mexican drug cartels and led to the death of not only Brian Terry but the husband of a Mexican official and God knows what else. Seems like slightly different levels of importance here.
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    Jun 29, 2012, 09:39 AM
    Who sells a kid 10 military style weapons in the first place... legally?
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    Jun 29, 2012, 09:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I'm asking what Holder knew about an operation the allowed thousands of guns to walk into the hands of Mexican drug cartels
    Hello again, Steve:

    Holder testified under oath that he didn't know about it... THAT'S evidence. You may not believe it, but it's EVIDENCE nonetheless. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, you want to "investigate" to find out if he's lying... And, that's a fishing expedition.

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    Jun 29, 2012, 10:05 AM
    First it was didn't know about it, next it was he learned about it only “few weeks” earlier, then he it was he was off by few months when he testified he only knew about it a few weeks earlier. You must have slept through his "evolving" testimony.
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    #66

    Jun 29, 2012, 10:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Who sells a kid 10 military style weapons in the first place.........................legally?
    Who lets Barrett .50 cals walk into drug dealer's hands?
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    Jun 29, 2012, 01:15 PM
    Well if its not illegal to buy the thing or resell it and you can't get a probale cause warrant, What's the next step? Hell they can't keep guns out of the hands of American gun dealers.
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    Jul 1, 2012, 04:03 AM
    Hey the guy said he didn't know about it. Well someone did and that someone is going down, even if he is the president. What is it you don't get about this, is it the total illegailty of the actions no matter who is to blame or the absolute lack of responsibility
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    Jul 2, 2012, 07:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Hell they can't keep guns out of the hands of American gun dealers.
    Maybe that's because they're gun dealers.
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    Jul 2, 2012, 07:56 AM
    I mean't American drug dealers.
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    Jul 2, 2012, 08:26 AM
    Hello again,

    Look.. It's over. The Justice Department is NOT going to prosecute Holder. The family will NEVER find out what happened if THAT was the intent of the which hunt. The House Republicans embarrassed themselves. Done deal.

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    Jul 2, 2012, 08:29 AM
    By the way, whatever happened to the left loving whistleblowers? They were Time's "Person of the Year in 2002."



    Seems the love for whistleblowers has disappeared under Holder's reign at DoJ. But who cares? They're just a bunch of rat-finks, and it's not as if anybody died or anything, right?

    Issa and Grassley would like to know however, why "two of the main whistleblowers who have testified before Congress about Fast and Furious under the supervision of someone (Scot Thomasson) who vowed to retaliate against them."

    That supervisor was Scot Thomasson, who according to an eyewitness said “We need to get whatever dirt we can on these guys [the whistleblowers] and take them down.”

    Thomasson also allegedly said that: “All these whistleblowers have axes to grind. ATF needs to f—k these guys.”

    So where's the love for whistleblowers now?

    P.S. Back in February of 2011, Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich wrote a letter to Grassley that stated the DoJ knew nothing about F&F. Funny, but he cc’d emails with talking points on how to respond to questions about F&F in January.

    I'm sure it's just more liberal evolution. A few years back whistleblowers were hot and coverups bad. Now it's just the opposite.
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    #73

    Jul 6, 2012, 02:57 PM
    David Axelrod: Romney ‘Most Secretive Candidate’ Since Nixon

    Pardon me while I to maintain a straight face. Nope, can't do it. Bwa ha ha ha ha ha!!

    This coming from the folks who boasted the thoroughly unvetted, unknown, one term senator would make "transparency" the "hallmark" of their administration.

    Mr. Axelrod, what is your boss hiding in the F&F investigation?

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