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    #61

    Mar 24, 2012, 02:22 AM
    Advocacy journalism is pretty self explanatory. When you know up front that is how an issue is being presented you can judge it accordingly. When the MSM tries to present advocacy journalism as unbiased reporting is when it becomes a problem.
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    #62

    Mar 24, 2012, 03:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Advocacy journalism is pretty self explanatory. When you know up front that is how an issue is being presented you can judge it accordingly. When the MSM tries to present advocacy journalism as unbiased reporting is when it becomes a problem.
    I think I already addressed this issue previously. My position was that it is no better to neglect to point out your bias than it is to point out your bias.

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    #63

    Mar 26, 2012, 06:37 AM
    So in other words journalists have to check their brains at the door?
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    #64

    Mar 26, 2012, 01:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    So in other words journalists have to check their brains at the door?

    No, all they have to do is check their extreme advocacy at the door. If not then there is no real difference between someone writing an opinion piece and professional journalism.

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    #65

    Apr 2, 2012, 08:18 PM
    Hello again:

    USA Today poll shows Obama now LEADS Romney 51-42 in swing states just a MONTH after he TRAILED by two points. The biggest change came among women under 50

    Did the discussion about contraceptives have anything to do with it?

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    #66

    Apr 2, 2012, 08:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again:

    USA Today poll shows Obama now LEADS Romney 51-42 in swing states just a MONTH after he TRAILED by two points. The biggest change came among women under 50

    Did the discussion about contraceptives have anything to do with it?

    excon
    Na just natural variability, Ronmey hasn't been showing well
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    #67

    Apr 3, 2012, 02:15 AM
    And at the time in 1980 Carter had a huge lead on Reagan.
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    #68

    Apr 3, 2012, 02:49 AM
    History means nothing
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    #69

    Apr 3, 2012, 03:57 AM
    And neither do April polls for a November election. It's something pundits do to relieve the boredom .
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    Apr 3, 2012, 04:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    and neither do April polls for a November election. It's something pundits do to relieve the boredom .
    It is not only pundits, this whole thing has a high boredoom potential, why don't you have one day on which the whole thing is decided instead of this circus
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    #71

    Apr 3, 2012, 05:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    and at the time in 1980 Carter had a huge lead on Reagan.
    Hello tom:

    If MY party's war on women did that to me, I'd say the say the same thing...

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

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    #72

    Apr 3, 2012, 05:33 AM
    The Repubics are not my party. A poll is a momentary snap shot in time. Once Romney establishes himself as the nominee ;he'll shake that etch a sketch and draw a clear contrast between him and the current POTUS' disastrous reign .
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    #73

    Apr 3, 2012, 05:39 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    So, you're just not going to cop that the discussion about contraceptives DID real damage to your cause, if NOT your party.

    Yes, he can recover a LITTLE bit, but the damage HAS been done.

    excon
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    Apr 3, 2012, 05:56 AM
    No I don't believe it did any lasting damage . If I were the Dems I'd be concerned about the backlash for imposing mandates that violate the 1st amendment .
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    #75

    Apr 3, 2012, 06:10 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    There's a lot to be worried about on BOTH sides.. It's going to be an interesting summer and beyond.

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    #76

    Apr 3, 2012, 06:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    There's a lot to be worried about on BOTH sides.. It's gonna be an interesting summer and beyond.

    excon
    Time for another revolution Ex
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    #77

    Apr 3, 2012, 07:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    time for another revolution Ex
    Hello again, clete:

    Nahhh.. I'm not a revolutionary. I DO think things should be shaken up, though. Changes need to be made. I'm a believer that government won't move UNLESS it's FORCED. I'm ready.

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    #78

    Apr 3, 2012, 02:37 PM
    You're ready for what? You can't move government unless you start a protest movement or become a party leader and maybe not even then

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