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Righty wish list
Hello Righty's:
What's your wish list look like? Come on, don't hold back. Be as radical as you like. It IS a wish list after all... Rick Santorum wishes condoms were illegal. I have a bunch of stuff I THINK you're wishing for, but I'm going to hold back... Ok, just one.. Certainly, you think ALL welfare recipients, from coast to coast, should be drug tested... You know, common sense solutions like that... excon |
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Roe can't be repealed .It can be overturned however.. or a new Amendment respecting the Constitutional rights of babies from being murdered can be adopted . I would favor both .
Yes Obamacare must be repealed because I kind of doubt SCOTUS will do the right thing. It may be too late to reverse some of the damage from some of Commissar Sebellius edicts . I want a modest cut in spending .Oh let's say we start by bringing the Federal Budget down to 2008 levels. |
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Ex, I've told you over and over that Roe will never be repealed, but I would love to see Obamacare eliminated and the overall reach of the federal government scaled back to where "we the people" is not totally lost to big brother. That my friend is where Obama is taking us and I would think the libertarian in you would be fighting a government takeover instead of being a party to it.
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Hello again,
So, I can count on you guys to rail against a proposed law in Virginia that says the doctor MUST stick something UP inside a woman and photograph her ova, BEFORE they'll let her have a legal abortion... Ok, it's NOT proposed... It PASSED both houses and is on the gov's desk.. OF COURSE, he's going to sign it... And, I'm going to hear YOU guys decrying it... Right... excon |
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Most non-emergency operations require multiple visits and other diagnostic procedures before deciding on the surgery .
You would think that would be a given when the outcome is a life lost. It is arguable that a sonogram is a necessary medical procedure .Most abortions are not 'necessary 'medical procedures. Still I am uncomfortable with the law. Let's put the lib test to it. Is this a procedure that is subsidized by the state in any way ? If so then by the lib argument ,the state has the power to mandate any preconditions. |
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And by the way, it's an ultrasound - no one is required to "stick something UP inside a woman and photograph her ova". It's less invasive than going through airport security.
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Hello again, Steve:
I know what a sonogram is.. This ISN'T that. It's INTRAVAGINAL. It's UP inside a woman... I'm looking for a link.. I'll find it.. Meanwhile, you can take what I'm saying to the bank... Virginia REALLY wants to STOP women from doing what they want with their own bodies.. Plus, you guys are making all these sonograms and intravaginal photographs seem MEDICALLY necessary, when the TRUE reason for them is to GUILT TRIP the woman into NOT having an abortion.. That's the ONLY reason for it, and it's BIG GOVERNMENT gone mad. It's NOT the government business to guilt trip people... Make it illegal if you wish, but to do this to women is unconscionable.. excon |
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Ex, I'm in Virginia, and I had to sound off on this because it has been making me insane for the last couple of weeks. Speechless, the bill calls for a trans-vaginal ultrasound, as it sticking a probe up you know where. Link HERE. I'm not sure what side of the debate they are one, but the facts are there at least.
This is wrong on so many levels that its sickening. If you take issue with a woman's right to seek a LEGAL abortion, change the law that protects that right. Work on overturning Roe v Wade, or a life at conception amendment. If there is so much popular support, pass a ballot initiative. The wrong way to handle this is to create a law that is obviously intended to guilt women out exercising their legal right to an abortion and will add anywhere from 100 to 1000 dollars to the cost of the procedure. Until having an abortion is illegal, the right to have one shouldn't be openly suppressed. We should not be passing laws that try to undermine what is already a legal right. Does a rape victim really need an ultrasound before having an abortion? I'm neither a righty or a lefty. I make the best choice in a bad situation every election, whomever that may happen to be. I am however (the last time I peeked)a woman. It just seems that people who want less government would start with not governing what I can do with my uterus. They would not want to dictate that a physician MUST perform a (superfluous in my opinion) medical procedure. People who want less welfare recipients and no more food stamp presidents would support free access to birth control and would want women giving birth to children they planned and can actually support. |
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A lump of tissue ? OMG ! Who could think that ? If I had a "lump of tissue" ,like some cancerous growth inside me I'd want it removed too.
I thought we were talking of informed choice... you know... like teaching kids at an early age how to unroll a condum on a cuke . Guess I'm wrong .I would've thought all those children exposed to all that sex ed would know what a fetus is . The truth is that such a procedure exposes that heinious lie . Now ;as I said already ;I'm uncomfortable with this law . But ;I find it amazing how the left sometimes think instrusive mandates are good (like forcing churches and the religious to pay for or provide condoms and other sundries ) ;and other times it is a gross violation of rights. |
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Finally, careful consideration should be given to the danger of this power passing into the hands of those public authorities who care little for the precepts of the moral law. Who will blame a government which in its attempt to resolve the problems affecting an entire country resorts to the same measures as are regarded as lawful by married people in the solution of a particular family difficulty? Who will prevent public authorities from favoring those contraceptive methods which they consider more effective? Should they regard this as necessary, they may even impose their use on everyone. It could well happen, therefore, that when people, either individually or in family or social life, experience the inherent difficulties of the divine law and are determined to avoid them, they may give into the hands of public authorities the power to intervene in the most personal and intimate responsibility of husband and wife.
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
Then men can have sex with their women any time of day or night and not have to worry about what time of the month it is and is she fertile or not. Or maybe men don't worry about stuff like that... I'd push for abstinence until age 21, but horny teen boys would dispatch me in the nearest alley. When I was in college, the rumor was that the cafeteria cooks added saltpeter to the desserts. Maybe that should be a food additive now. |
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