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HotHoneyVintage · Nov 17, 2011, 03:44 PM

How do u know when it's time to quit therapy or give up on it?

The Therapist will tell you to stick with it, of course because that's how they make their money. I don't trust them, even if they are nice, because they are NOT going to tell you that 'you suck' or 'are pathetic,' of course not.

But when do you think it is time to hang up the towel and forget the therapy and medications they keep giving?

Thank you.

Wondergirl · Nov 17, 2011, 03:45 PM

Are you helping your therapist by participating in it?

HotHoneyVintage · Nov 18, 2011, 12:11 AM

Helping her by doing what? Its pointless there isn't no help for me, I don't care if it worked for 10 million people that's them not me. Every weeks she trying to tell me the same thing: to changes and controls my thoughts I get tired of her telling me do things I has trieD AND can't do. I feels its time to throw in the towel and drop the therapy and meds. Its not worth it anymore

Wondergirl · Nov 18, 2011, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by HotHoneyVintage

helping her by doing what? its pointless there isnt no help for me

Does she know about the Asperger's?

HotHoneyVintage · Nov 19, 2011, 06:05 PM

It don't matter if she know because they taking it out of the dsm next time it come out! I read thatonline :( what a shame aspergers' is not even going to exists anymore. Sigh. Now what are we all going to do? What about your sons and w/e? Anyway my therapist say I don't have it. She just laughed it off. And she say even if I DID have it we would still be working on the same problems I have so it don't make a difference.

Fr_Chuck · Nov 19, 2011, 06:12 PM

It does matter and it does make a difference, if you are not open and honest with the doctor in counseling, they do not have the correct information to try to help you.

If you go in, with the opinion it is not going to help, never will and there is no need to try, not sure what you do for the time together, just sit and look at each other ?

And they are normally glad to see you get better, have less visits and to maybe get where they seldom see you. That is their job. Just as a medical doctor cures you, and then have other patients, they don't just keep treating you, so you don't get better.

How about printing out all of your posts here and giving it to them,

HotHoneyVintage · Nov 19, 2011, 06:16 PM

I would never print out my posts and gives to her. I can't even let her reads my journal writing and she said that is OK. I like the lady but I am not going to tell her EVERYTHING because I cant. I guess I'm suppose to tells her I have a online porns problem and masturbation -- yea right. Good for other people if they can goes to the therapy and say that type of stuff but I can't. She do know I have asperger she say I don't have it though... I don't even goes to the gynecologist because I don't like that, it's gross and weird I don't care if it's 'manaatory' for women's health can't bring myself to do it.

No I do not just sits there staring at her. We talk about stuff just not every single thing I think.

Wondergirl · Nov 19, 2011, 06:20 PM

You need a different therapist, methinks -- one who will push you past your comfort zone. Wish I lived closer...

DrBill100 · Nov 19, 2011, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by HotHoneyVintage

How do u know when it's time to quit therapy or give up on it?

How long have you been attending therapy and what type of medication is being prescribed?

Do you think the therapy sessions have helped at all? How about the medication?

It sounds as though you have already given up on therapy, or maybe just having a bad day.

HotHoneyVintage · Nov 19, 2011, 08:30 PM

I been therapy for over 2 years now. This lady about 8 months. She nice and all at least someone talk to beside online here. Don't talk to no one else about my problems in life. Well I get a medication called cymbalta. Its working I guess. I don't know, no point in wasting the lady time if I can't do none of the things she is telling me right. Well she said several time its not wasting anyone time but 1. she getting paid to be there and 2. if I was wasting her time she not going to actually tell me that. So I try to determine for myself if I should quits her.

Fr_Chuck · Nov 19, 2011, 08:43 PM

I will disagree, while I don't know this lady, all of the counselors I know if they know they are not helping they will try and find you someone else who may help.

No counselor is going to help you unless you are going to be completely open and honest with them.

In my marriage counseling that is the number one requirement, we give a few meetings for the BS and lies, but if they will not be honest, I don't waste my time on them, and would rather help those who want help.

So do most of the marriage counselors I deal with.

A off side note, a marriage counselor does not try to get them back together, they merely try to find the truth, see what each wants and go from there. Often finding a way they can break up nicely is what we find is the best route.

So you are wrong about most counselors, again don't know this one, to most, their patients welfare is what is most important.

Wondergirl · Nov 19, 2011, 08:45 PM

HHV, by not being honest with your counselor, you are hurting her and most of you, you are hurting yourself.

DrBill100 · Nov 19, 2011, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by ;

it dont matter if she know b/c they taking it out of the dsm next time it come out! i read thatonline what a shame aspergers' is not even going to exists anymore. sigh. now what are we all going to do?? what about your sons and w/e? anyway my therapist say i don't have it. she just laughed it off. and she say even if I DID have it we would still be working on the same problems i have so it dont make a difference.

Asperger's isn't being removed from DSM V it is being reclassified as part of a spectrum disorder. The same is being considered for many other disorders. It's a trend in psychiatry. So don't worry about the disorder being thrown out. That isn't the case. The symptom profile will be incorporated in totality, in fact, practitioners will still call it Asperger's for years, but simply use a different classification code for diagnosis and billing. That's if the change is accepted by the DSM committee. Not final yet.

So you've been in therapy about 2 years. I read elsewhere that you don't like CBT and it seems you don't have a particular fondness for or confidence in your therapist. Is there anything that would prevent you from getting another therapist. One that uses another method?

Also, I would like to hear a little more about why you believe that Aspergers is a factor. Were you previously diagnosed? Seems you read a bit on this, being familiar with DSM. Your opinion is very important in the treatment process and should always weigh heavily in treatment plans.

One further question. (hope you don't mind so many). Is your therapist the one that prescribes the Cymbalta or do you have to see someone else for medication. Just trying to get a feel for who is controlling the course of your treatment.

HotHoneyVintage · Nov 20, 2011, 02:00 PM

Dr. Bill OK ty for explaining what they going to do about the dsm. I looked into it online and read what people say how its not a rreal disorder like autism and how they are going to dump it in the next version but I guess that's not true. Anyway, no that's not true I really like the therapist she's a really nice lady. She's not all condescending and haughty like most other women. I just get tired of hersaying everything about me is OK and that's all right etc. every time I do something. She says: we all make mistakes. I get tired hearing this and that my thoughts are distortions.

Even though w.g. says its not cbt it is. Cbt where you try and get the patient to changes their thoughts about life and think positive instead negative. It is about controlling your thought. I think it's B.S. and have never worked for me. My insurance won't pay for therapist in another location (others are too far away). But there's others in this building but I cannot leave one I have. 1. I sees her too much and it would be embarrassed to dump her and go for another person 2. she already is my 3rd one in this building and 3.I'm not the type of person just to tell her I'm leaving and go to someone else. Even if you LOL at all my reasons I don't care that's how I feel about it.

A different doctor online diagnoses me with asperger. Then I went to the doctor in my therapy office and he said yes I may have that but he cannot give me that diagnosis.
My therapist don't subscribe the cymbalta a male doctors in the building does that because she is not a doctor. I tries several time to get him to give me prozac but he say he won't give out that type to me because I had problem in the past abusing the pills doctors gave me (thats another story). OK ty bill.

Wondergirl · Nov 20, 2011, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by HotHoneyVintage

even though w.g. says its not cbt it is. cbt where you try and get the patient to changes their thoughts about life and think positive instead negative. it is about controlling your thought.

I still say it's not CBT. The C = cognitive (thoughts), and the B = behavioral (actions). What is being done to change how you behave, how you act?

I have taught my clients how to put a different spin on how they think. That leads into how they then behave, how they act, what they do. I haven't heard how you have tried to change your behavior. Is it because you refuse to change how you think about things?

HotHoneyVintage · Nov 22, 2011, 11:30 PM

w.g. I'm just going off what she tell in the meetings. And she said my thoughts control behaviors and I need change my thoughts but I can't do it :( I am not going to bother anymore mostly I goes to the therapy now to get out of the house sometime and to talk to the lady. We just go in circles and one day she probably going to drop me from her schedule.

Wondergirl · Nov 22, 2011, 11:52 PM

I still think you should follow up with the woman you got from Jeanette. She'll go to your house and meet with you, right?

HotHoneyVintage · Nov 23, 2011, 11:14 AM

I don't think that lady come to your house, she just telling me she have an office I could probably go to. I have not contact her since though... thelady from easter seal is the one that come to your house but I never follow up with themoh well.

Wondergirl · Nov 23, 2011, 12:11 PM

Hmmm, Jeanette told me she goes to people's homes too. I don't know exactly where you live, so you might be too far away from her.

I want the Easter Seal lady to come to your house. Will you do that for me?

HotHoneyVintage · Nov 23, 2011, 01:16 PM

Why you wants jeanette to come to my home? U want her to try and get me into a 'nut house?' or public mental facility :( I am not going to live in that type of place. I like living by myself. I can do it even my therapist say I can live on my own I have to stop being so afraid of the outside worlds