[paraclete]

Uhhh, I see where I misread clete's post, and thought it was yours. HE'S the one who believe God makes weather to send a message...

Two things Ex

I certainly don't think God is talking to you because, if he is, you are not listening.

God can use any circumstance he wants to send us a message, perhaps some events are the wraith of God, perhaps they are not. I think the belief that God makes weather is far more accurate than believing than man makes weather, yet you seem to find the man makes weather message acceptable and want us to use what little time we have left on the Earth trying to modify it further.

Back to politics. Bachmann making that statement is pure sectarian politics, the idea that a candidate who can contemplate God is somehow anointed. With a jewish name she has the jewish vote, jew or not. With a far right Christian point of view she has the Christian vote. She is a manipulator and not to be trusted

[TUT317]

Two things Ex

Back to politics. Bachmann making that statement is pure sectarian politics, the idea that a candidate who can contemplate God is somehow annointed. With a jewish name she has the jewish vote, jew or not. With a far right Christian point of view she has the Christian vote. She is a manipulator and not to be trusted

Exactly.

She is hoping that American politics is approaching a watershed, not unlike Mcarthyism which promoted a proactive stance against communism. At the moment it is a call to take a stance against secularism and socialism.It should be noted they are not one and the same.

Politicians are suited to an era, not the other way round.

Tuit

[tomder55]

Bachmann is not going to win the nomination . It's been a century since a Rep won the Presidency. I don't even know why they attempt to run. .After next week the Republican contest will be a 3 way race .... Romney ,Perry ,and Palin. All the others that hang in there are vying for positions in a Republican adm ,or are using the campaign to reenergize their political futures.

Given the way Repubics do things I am putting my early bet on the marshmallow flip flopper ....

And you don't think that his religion will become an issue in the general election ? The Obots are ready to attack Mitt Romney's “weirdness” .In other words... He's a Mormon!

Obama plan: Destroy Romney - Ben Smith and Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com

The Repubics are making their preference known... ;the same ones who thought McCain was the right choice in 2008 .More than two-thirds of Republican Insiders say Mitt Romney has a better chance than Perry of defeating President Obama in 2012, according to this week's National Journal Political Insiders Poll.

That would be the same group of Republic insiders who said Reagan couldn't win.

[excon]

That would be the same group of Repubic insiders who said Reagan couldn't win.

Hello tom:

Obama is vulnerable, but it doesn't look like you want to win.

excon

[tomder55]

Romney can't defeat him. His only case is that he would better manage the nanny state. Romney is a milquetoast version of Obama .

[speechlesstx]

Weren't we just discussing the conspiracy of Bush canceling the election? Well Democrat has actually suggested such:

North Carolina Governor Proposes Ignoring Constitution And Suspending Congressional Elections For Two Years

“I think we ought to suspend, perhaps, elections for Congress for two years and just tell them we won’t hold it against them, whatever decisions they make, to just let them help this country recover. I really hope that someone can agree with me on that,” Perdue said. “You want people who don’t worry about the next election.”

The paper that reported it called it a joke in their headline, but said that was unclear:

The comment — which came during a discussion of the economy — perked more than a few ears. It’s unclear whether Perdue, a Democrat, is serious — but her tone was level and she asked others to support her on the idea.

Her office backtracked and called it "hyperbole". I listened, she sounded sincere to me.

[smoothy]

Weren't we just discussing the conspiracy of Bush canceling the election? Well Democrat has actually suggested such:

North Carolina Governor Proposes Ignoring Constitution And Suspending Congressional Elections For Two Years



The paper that reported it called it a joke in their headline, but said that was unclear:



Her office backtracked and called it "hyperbole". I listened, she sounded sincere to me.

Not surprising... since they stand to lose the senate this election. It's a despirate attempt to maintain control of something they have no inherant right to control. They are elected officials, when their term is up, if they don't win the right to sit another term in an election, they have ZERO right to remain.

I seriously believe Obama is purposely engineering the current economic disaster so he can suspent the constitution, declare martial law, and appoint himself President for life. A lot like Hugo Chavez did... and people forget early in his campaign , Oboma had a Hugo Chavez poster in his headquarters... at least until Chavezes rants made it unpopular to align with him.

Nope can't prove it... just a theory based on his rants and tantrums when he doesn't get his way like he was used to having before last years elections.

[TUT317]

Nope can't prove it...just a theory based on his rants and tantrums when he doesn't get his way like he was used to having before last years elections.

Hi Smoothy,

If that's all the data you've got then it is not much of a theory.

Tut

[tomder55]

Evidently this clown in NC was serious,but is not to be taken seriously . Neither is speculations of the President suspension of the Constitution. I take that as seriously as I do all that garbage about Bush's so called FEMA concentration camps.

[smoothy]

Hi Smoothy,

If that's all the data you've got then it is not much of a theory.

Tut

Heck... we all have our theories... you included. Most are little more than gut feelings... but gut feelings can be accurate even without overwhelming proof supporting them.

[NeedKarma]

Christians are nutjobs. Just a gut feeling that's turns out to be a pretty accurate theory.

[smoothy]

Christians are nutjobs. Just a gut feeling that's turns out to be a pretty accurate theory.

I can say the same about Atheists being the main practitioners of discrimination, and intollerance in this country. So that's an accurate theory too.

[NeedKarma]

I guess so by your standards of the scientific process.

[smoothy]

I guess so by your standards of the scientific process.

No.. I'm using the Democrats standards of proof as applied to Cheney and George Bush.

[TUT317]

Heck...we all have our theories.....you included. Most are little more than gut feelings....but gut feelings can be accurate even without overwelming proof supporting them.

Hi Smoothy,

Very true indeed.

However, I don't think you need worry too much, Good old English Common Law and Habeas Corpus has been and still is a very good bulwark against such ambitions.

TUT

[speechlesstx]

Evidently this clown in NC was serious,but is not to be taken seriously . Neither is speculations of the President suspension of the Constitution. I take that as seriously as I do all that garbage about Bush's so called FEMA concentration camps.

Nah, I don't take her seriously, but it suddenly seems to be a bit of a theme. Obama's former OMB guy, Peter Orszag, thinks we should be less democratic.

To solve the serious problems facing our country, we need to minimize the harm from legislative inertia by relying more on automatic policies and depoliticized commissions for certain policy decisions. In other words, radical as it sounds, we need to counter the gridlock of our political institutions by making them a bit less democratic.

We aren't a democracy anyway, but I think we're too centralized already. That's just what we need is more commissions to make decisions for us. I'm already so looking forward to the health commission telling us what treatments are allowable.

[speechlesstx]

Christians are nutjobs. Just a gut feeling that's turns out to be a pretty accurate theory.

This from the guy who constantly complains about stereotyping whole groups of people. I knew you didn't practice what you preached.

[NeedKarma]

I'm already so looking forward to the health commission telling us what treatments are allowable.

You mean like insurance companies do now? (if you're one of the lucky ones to afford health insurance).

[tomder55]

The nanny state has for a century (even longer if you go back to Teddy Roosevelt) has tried to replace the 'democratic process' with the professional bureaucrat.
It doesn't surprise me in the least that the result is an unaccountable government led by the czar oligarchs .Putin would be proud.

[NeedKarma]

What you call the "nanny state" is just the way your country is and will be, it's not a recent occurrence and it's not going back to some idealistic 19th century state. Is there any country in the world that you don't consider to be a nanny state?