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    #141

    Jun 19, 2011, 01:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    I sure hope Mitt Romney gets the GOP nomination, he seems to be the most intelligent and least wacky and controversial than anyone else.
    You mean he sounds more Democrat than the others.. . agreed .
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    #142

    Jun 19, 2011, 05:12 AM

    Hello again, tom:

    So you agree that the race is filled with whackos??

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    Jun 19, 2011, 06:11 AM

    I agree that's the way the left perceives it. Obviously the "least wacky " candidate would be the one who created Romneycare before Obamacare . Pawlenty is right... it's 'Obamney' Care
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    #144

    Jun 19, 2011, 08:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I agree that's the way the left perceives it.
    Hello again, tom:

    It IS a matter of perception, isn't it? But you've got your perceptions, too.

    You do view Obama, and say, Weiner, or Pelosi and your favorite Shumer, as wacko's too, do you not? I think you do.

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    #145

    Jun 19, 2011, 03:53 PM

    Nahh Weiner's not wacko... he is an obsessive compulsive pervert .
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    #146

    Jun 19, 2011, 03:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    nahh Weiner's not wacko... he is an obsessive compulsive pervert .
    No, he's a narcissist.
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    Jun 19, 2011, 04:16 PM

    He is a narcissistic obsessive compulsive pervert
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    Jun 19, 2011, 04:53 PM

    While I find what Weiner did perverted, if every women he was sending things to did not care, wanted them, and was doing sexual chats with him, he may have issues, but was it right to force him out of office ? If it was all consenting adults, where is his right to be a sick puppy if he wants to be

    One of those poor young ladies he sent photos to, was dancing here in Atlanta last week, she now gets twice her normal rate of pay to appear and dance naked.
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    #149

    Jun 19, 2011, 07:23 PM
    Well Chuck as they say it's an ill wind that blows nobody any good, but you are wrong, Weiner should be held accountable because he chose to be in public life and be an example and he failed. From your training Chuck you should know that what is on the leaders comes down on the followers. Do you want that in your life, of course, you don't?
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    #150

    Jun 20, 2011, 06:16 AM

    If it was all consenting adults, where is his right to be a sick puppy if he wants to be
    That remains to be seen . They've already investigated his "chats " with a 17 year old.

    I think it was crucial that he got dumped . It's not a matter of it being private... he's a public servant . Let's just suppose that he didn't actually screw up and post his pix to everyone in his twitter account ,and he was able to serve for years doing this .

    But some foreign intelligence agency discovered his activities and decided to use it against him . Do you think he would then be upfront about it ? No way ! He stonewalled for over a week until the proof became undeniable.
    More likely his compromise of public trust would lead to decisions that are not in the public interest .

    That is why character is important in elected officials .We hire them and there is a level of behavior we should demand from our elected officials .
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    #151

    Jun 20, 2011, 06:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    That is why character is important in elected officials .We hire them and there is a level of behavior we should demand from our elected officials .
    Hello again, tom:

    Vitter?? You can demand his departure anytime. There's room in the space below this one. He BROKE the law. He actually HAD sex. Yet, he remains in power. I guess it's OK if you're a Republican. Vitter did his thing LONG ago. If it miffed you so much, how come you didn't post EVERY day about it? Where was your outrage? I pay attention to these boards. I don't remember seeing any from you. I guess it's OK if you're a Republican.

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    #152

    Jun 20, 2011, 06:38 AM

    Already addressed, ex. The character with which each man responded. If Weiner had just been up front instead of lying about it he might have caught a break, too. But what's funny here is not that Republicans are defending Vitter, but that Democrats bailed on Weiner instead of staunchly defending him as they did Clinton for perjuring himself.
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    #153

    Jun 20, 2011, 06:45 AM

    Hello again, Steve:

    Weiner lied - he must go. Vitter was sorry - he can stay...

    BULLS**T!

    So, if all the people in prison were sorry, you'd say let 'em out? No, you wouldn't. Sorry only counts if you're a Republican...

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    #154

    Jun 20, 2011, 06:58 AM

    I made it clear regarding Vitter . I'll say it again . He should go .

    A better comparison to Vitter would be Spitzer. Both patronized prostitutes illegally . Spitzer resigned . So should Vitter .
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    #155

    Jun 20, 2011, 07:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Weiner lied - he must go. Vitter was sorry - he can stay...
    I just contrasted their responses. Weiner lied and weaseled and people demanded he resign. Vitter accepted responsibility and got a pass. Personally, I think all three should have a show together on CNN.
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    #156

    Jun 22, 2011, 11:14 AM
    Well Palin quits her bus tour:

    Sarah Palin baffles and frustrates fans by quitting bus tour - War Room - Salon.com

    RealClearPolitics - Palin Bus Tour Takes Extended Pit Stop
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    Jun 22, 2011, 12:00 PM

    Guess she didn't ask their permission when she would begin /end the tour or what the agenda would be.
    BOOO HOOO .
    Alaska is a great place to be this time of year especially as the family also works the salmon season.
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    #158

    Jun 22, 2011, 12:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    guess she didn't ask their permission when she would begin /end the tour or what the agenda would be.
    What does even mean: "asking their permission"?

    From the article:
    aides had drafted preliminary itineraries that would have taken her through the Midwest and Southeast at some point this month. But those travel blueprints are now in limbo, RCP has learned, as Palin and her family have reverted to the friendly confines of summertime Alaska
    She's a quitter all right. It's salmon season!

    They ran the numbers and she probably will make more money not on finishing the bus tour. She has a DVD to hock, she laways has some merchandise to sell to the masses. Palin has no intention of ever doing any real work again in her life. She's going to milk her publicity for everything she can, but never get caught up enough in something that she might have to follow through.
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    #159

    Jun 22, 2011, 12:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    What does even mean: "asking their permission"?

    From the article:


    She's a quitter alright. It's salmon season!

    They ran the numbers and she probably will make more money not on finishing the bus tour. She has a DVD to hock, she laways has some merchandise to sell to the masses. Palin has no intention of ever doing any real work again in her life. She's going to milk her publicity for everything she can, but never get caught up enough in something that she might have to follow through.
    I understand from news reports that she bought a house for her family in Arizona.

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    #160

    Jun 22, 2011, 12:55 PM
    Yea I saw that too. It'd be different if she was doing her little tour on her own money but she's travelling on donations. Nice little paid holiday for the family I guess.

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