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    #41

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:11 PM
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    I do realize it is in-appropriate. Your insults at the end of what you said have been noted. I've known I need help with my depression for a while. And I just wanted to know the laws, not your moral opinion
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    Jan 26, 2011, 03:18 PM

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    Is this for or against me? Cause I'm not sure
    Dude, it's AGAINST you! I have a 17 year old daughter. If she was going after a 12 year old boy I'd lock her up.

    You should also be locked up and taught a lesson.

    You need to seriously get some help before you wind up behind bars.
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    #43

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:19 PM

    The law sees it as sexual assault - it's a criminal offence. This is because in the eyes of the law we are unable to give informed consent to sex when still a child.

    A boy who has sex with a girl under 16 (17 in NI) is breaking the law. Even if she agrees.
    If she is 13-15, the boy could go to prison for two years.
    If she is under 13 he could be sentenced to life imprisonment.
    A girl age 16 or over who has sex with a boy under 16 can be prosecuted for indecent assault.

    BBC - Advice - Age Of Consent

    I have copied and pasted a section for your benefit and provided a link to the whole piece regarding underage sex in england.

    You will note that at 16 you are of age, and if you have sex with a girl under the age of 13 its life in prison.

    Also, to remind you, YOU invited opinion.
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    #44

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by husky004 View Post
    I do realize it is in-appropriate.
    That's a start

    I've known I need help with my depression for a while.
    So get PROFESSIONAL help NOW
    and I just wanted to know the laws, not your moral opinion
    As has been stated already, while this isn't illegal, people's perceptions WILL get you into a deep dark place you DO NOT want to go to.
    Are you happy carrying around the label of a PREDATOR and GROOMER for the rest of your life??

    The phase Honour Amongst Thieves is very true as criminals will tolerate most things EXCEPT crimes against women and CHILDREN.

    I suggest you think long and hard about your destructive course you are setting yourself on.

    Ps How's the weather in Melbourne at the moment ?
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    #45

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:24 PM
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    Humid, but not unberably hot down here. If I liked the heat then I'd say it was very nice, unfortunately I'd prefer to be in canada or the uk during winter. Shame
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    #46

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:25 PM
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    I'd again, I'd like to say, that SEX WILL NOT BE INVOLVED FOR YEARS. Why don't you people understand that. And that's if we even go past the consideration stage
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    #47

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:27 PM

    I thought you were in the UK?

    Is it Melbourne or the UK?
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    #48

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:27 PM
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    An here is another person who didn't help at all. I respect your rules with your daughter. And I haven't done anything wrong. I'm talking about this on here to see if I can go through with a relationship legaly
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    #49

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:29 PM

    Well, is it the UK or Melbourne?
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    Jan 26, 2011, 03:31 PM

    Because its under consideration, therein lies the concern.

    I am not trying to insult you by saying your immature for your age, I'm basing that opinion on your posts and the information your giving.

    If you want to change peoples opinion, you need to take on board what's being said, its not to have a go at you,the root of the concern is to help you realise that dating an 11 year old is not right, no matter what your feelings about her.
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    #51

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:32 PM
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    She has to head back to the uk, we're in melbourne now
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    #52

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:34 PM
    I really should mention at this juncture that AUSTRALIAN Laws concerning this are much STRICTER than the UK ones.
    While the ages are the same, the penalties are considerably worse.

    Even considering you original post of
    just kissing, holding hands and hugging
    Would be seen as GROOMING a minor child and will result in a long prison term and permanent inclusion in the sex offenders register.

    Your choice really, but if you ever want to lead some kind of meaningful life I suggest you BACK OFF now!!
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    #53

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:35 PM

    I have one question for you Husky004...

    Did you actually think you would come here and people would approve of this relationship?

    If you did, that seriously shows your level of immaturity.
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    #54

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:38 PM
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    I know people wouldn't approve of it, but I was hoping for more advice with facts on age laws, and less 'moral wrong' acusations
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    #55

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:40 PM
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    Well, that would have been more pleasant if you weren't yelling, but thank you for the advice. Now I hate australia even more, and know that it definitely wouldn't work out here
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    #56

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:42 PM

    You got the facts. In Australia, where you are now, just kissing and holding hands will result in long term imprisonment.
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    #57

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:43 PM
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    And I am taking everything into consideration, but being called a pedophile and predator isn't very convincing that I should agree with any of you
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    #58

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:45 PM
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    well, that would have been more pleasent if you weren't yelling, but thankyou for the advice. now i hate australia even more, and know that it definatly wouldn't work out here
    It wasn't meant to be pleasant, just the cold hard light of day.
    You clearly have very little idea about what you are potentially getting yourself into here and need it telling straight.
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    #59

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:46 PM
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    Holding hands, the law couldn't do a thing to me in my opinion, even though we haven't done anything but talk so far. Kissing of course would land me in trouble. So we're not
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    #60

    Jan 26, 2011, 03:46 PM

    Let's also remember this...

    Your IP address is logged by many sites you visit. This one is no exception. What if someone chooses to contact the authorities about this relationship?

    Would you think differently about this then?

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