[DDS1231]

OK so my husband and I have won custody of his two kids a girl who is 14 years old and a son who is 11 years old 2 years ago from the biological mother because she was in and out of jail never could provide a stable safe environment for the kids and is on drugs really bad. She also had junkies in and out of there different homes and always left them home alone for days and this has been since they were born her behavior. So we got custody Febuay of 2008 and she wasn't even given visiation right unless she took drug tests which she never did even up until now she hasn't and its been 2 years so we have not allowed them to see her but on ossisions we did let them go with the grandma which is the biological moms mother and she would take them to see her and when they would come back they would be nothing but problems attitides and just not wanting to get back in to out everday routine where there are ruled chores and school etc.. so we stopped letting them go when we found out this was happening but my step daughter who is 14 has a cell phone we give her for emergecies which of couse you know we can't lock them away from the world to keep them from there mother so so talks on the phone with them putting stuff in there head getting them to lie and do stuff they normally wouldn't so we know when they've been talking to her.so the latest was her getting my step daughter to go to the cousiler at her school and say that my husband hit her brother the other day because he didn't want to clean which is a flat out lie. My steps son was giving my husband trouble that morning my husband finally got tired of him running around not listening lying all the time and stopping his feet around this kid is 11 years old so he yelled at him pretty loudly and aggressively but never put his hands on him she wasn't there when it even happened so for her to say he hit him totally blows my mind. So that school called my sons school and took them they called the police reported to cps because the grandmother the kids moms mom called the school also saying they need to remove the kids asap are the kids were going to run away the cop talks to my step son at school and he tells the officer yes his dad was yelling at him and grabbed his arm but he never said his dad hit him the cop comes to my house asking questions we tell him the story and he figures the same thing as us there just trying to make of lies to get there way he sees nothing wrong with us our home we let him and takes our staement and leaves so the kids never come home after school we wait until about 6pm than we call the police. They come to our home ask us questions we tell them the story all over again and we tell the police we believe the kids are with there mother who they are not suupose to be with her. They take the grandmas name and number down and the kids moms name and gather some info call the grandma who cursing off the poloce officer and hungs up on him. So the police filed a missing report and later that night about 11 aree 12 the someone is knocking at the door it's the police with the kids they picked them up and brought them home and they tell there dad they don't want to live with us anymorethey want to live with there mom and when my husband asked his son I hit you he said no but I just don't liked being yelled at his daughter was like oh well he told me you hit him but still she doesn't want to live with him anymore the son still wants to. So bottom line they lied caused this big old seen with the cops at my house allday and the schools thinking were beating them all because there listening to what there mom is telling them to do so she can try and get them back. She isn't even trying through the courts to do anyting in th edirection of even getting visiation rights but is trying to do it this way which is not the first time. But supposly she isn't opn drugs anymore she just finshed school to be a phoblimist and is doing better so they think she is and want to go back my step daughter more me being tired of doing everything for these kids I treat them like my own I love them and take care of them better then there real mom has ever am tired ofthem being selfish and pulling this kind of stuff and not thinking about the consquencses. The kids mom lives with her mom who is the grandma we have been consdering on giving the kids back cause this is what they want and keep pushing so the whole time they've lived with us she hasn't helped with anything not a penny doesn't pay child support she just been living free and no worries in the world when they lived with her he paid child support of course so it we do he's thinking of talking with the kids mom to make a agreemwnt to sign over his rights to the grandma which is more stable if thwy agree to it and hve her agrre to no financial responsibilities after included in the paper work caus e we have had this was the last straw is that possible in the state of Arizona.

[this8384]

ok so my husband and i have won custody of his two kids a girl who is 14 years old and a son who is 11 years old 2 years ago from the biological mother because she was in and out of jail never could provide a stable safe enviornment for the kids and is on drugs really bad. she also had junkies in and out of there different homes and always left them home alone for days and this has been since they were born her behavior. so we got custody Febuay of 2008 and she wasnt even given visiation right unless she took drug tests which she never did even up til now she hasnt and its been 2 years so we have not allowed them to see her but on ossisions we did let them go with the grandma which is the biological moms mother and she would take them to see her and when they would come back they would be nothing but problems attitides and just not wanting to get back in to out everday routine where there are ruled chores and school etc..so we stopped letting them go when we found out this was happening but my step daughter who is 14 has a cell phone we give her for emergecies which of couse you know we can't lock them away from the world to keep them from ther mother so so talks on the phone with them putting stuff in there head getting them to lie and do stuff they normally wouldnt so we know when theyve been talking to her.so the lastest was her getting my step daughter to go to the cousiler at her school and say that my husband hit her brother the other day because he didnt want to clean which is a flat out lie. my steps son was giving my husband trouble that morning my husband finally got tired of him running around not listening lying all the time and stopping his feet around this kid is 11 years old so he yelled at him pretty loudly and agressively but never put his hands on him she wasnt ther when it even happened so for her to say he hit him totally blows my mind. so that school called my sons school and took them they called the police reported to cps because the grandmother the kids moms mom called the school also saying they need to remove the kids asap are the kids were gona run away the cop talks to my step son at school and he tells the officer yes his dad was yelling at him and grabbed his arm but he never said his dad hit him the cop comes to my house asking questions we tell him the story and he figures the same thing as us there just trying to make of lies to get there way he sees nothing wrong with us our home we let him and takes our staement and leaves so the kids never come home after school we wait til about 6pm than we call the police. they come to our home ask us questions we tell them the story all over again and we tell the police we believe the kids are with there mother who they are not suupose to be with her. they take the grandmas name and number down and the kids moms name and gather some info call the grandma who cursing off the poloce officer and hungs up on him. so the police filed a missing report and later that night bout 11 aree 12 the someone is knocking at the door its the police with the kids they picked them up and brought them home and they tell there dad they dont want to live with us anymorethey want to live with there mom and when my husband asked his son i hit you he said no but i just dont liked being yelled at his daughter was like oh well he told me you hit him but still she doesnt want to live with him anymore the son still wants to. so bottom line they lied caused this big old seen with the cops at my house allday and the schools thinking were beating them all because there listening to what there mom is telling them to do so she can try and get them back. she isnt even trying through the courts to do anyting in th edirection of even getting visiation rights but is trying to do it this way which is not the first time. but supposly she isnt opn drugs anymore she just finshed school to be a phoblimist and is doing better so they think she is and want to go back my step daughter more me being tired of doing everything for these kids i treat them like my own i love them and take care of them better then there real mom has ever am tired ofthem being selfish and pulling this kind of stuff and not thinking about the consquencses. the kids mom lives with her mom who is the grandma we have been consdering on giving the kids back cause this is what they want and keep pushing so the whole time theyve lived with us she hasnt helped with anything not a penny doesnt pay child support she just been living free and no worries in the world when they lived with her he payed child support of course so it we do hes thinking of talking with the kids mom to make a agreemwnt to sign over his rights to the grandma which is more stable if thwy agree to it and hve her agrre to no financial responsibilites after included in the paper work caus e we have had this was the last straw is that possible in the state of arizona.

Honestly, I didn't even read through all of this. A lot of it has no bearing on the situation(her not paying child support doesn't affect her visitation in any way).

There is a sticky at the top of the Family Law forum regarding terminating parental rights which you can read here:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/family...st-116098.html

[DDS1231]

OK well that's not what I am talking about I am not asking if she can have visiation she needs to pay child support and if you would have read through it than you would have understood and not put a comment that didn't even reply to what I was asking

[this8384]

ok well thats not what i am talking about i am not asking if she can have visiation she needs to pay child support and if you would of read through it than you would of understood and not put a comment that didnt even reply to what i was asking

You asked about terminating her rights and having her sign them over to her mother. If you had read what I posted, you would not have posted a comment that accomplished nothing more than sticking your foot in your mouth.

[DDS1231]

OK well that's not was I was asking but if you would have read through it you would have understood what I was asking and why I was aking that question..

[this8384]

ok well thats not was i was asking but if you would have read through it you would of understood what i was asking and why i was aking that question..

Okay then, let's give this another whirl. You post your question - without telling us everything else that has happened in the last two years. Use the "Answer this question" box below, not the "Comment" feature.

And if you're going to use the rating system, I suggest you familiarize yourself with site rules that you agreed to upon signing up.
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/feedba...ure-24951.html

P.S. It's "would have" not "would of"

[Fr_Chuck]

I also can't read it though, no sentences, no periods, just so much rambling.

1. a parent can not just sign away rights to a child, it would have to go though the courts, but they seldom allow it, expect for step parent adoption

2. Yes you can keep a teenager controlled, so no they don't have to have a cell phone, and/or it can be restricted as to who they talk to. If talking to the mother is an issue, make it calls together on speaker phone

3. Visitation and child support are totally different, and yes, the mother has the right to ask for visits , there should have been a court order along with the custody order of when and how she gets her visits.

[DDS1231]

No that's not what I was asking either cause she don't even have any legal custody over the kids what so ever just please don't reply you still are not getting it maybe you can try and hel someone else sorry but that's not what I am asking either...

[DDS1231]

And please don't try to insult me this is a question answer page and don't need your opinion if it is a insult thanks though

[DDS1231]

Yes I relize a teenager can be controlled and she has the cell phone when she's not at home for emergenies only and even if she sisnt have one she find another way to call her mom the reason she did not get visition rights because she never followed

[DDS1231]

Court orders to take drug testing and I am not asking anything about her having visiation rights I am asking about the father signing his rights away

[this8384]

Okay, you're still not listening. Please use the "Answer this question" box below. Do not use the "Comment on this post" option.

My opinion - which is not what I was giving you - is not an insult; you still have not told us what your question is. The subject of your thread was "info on signing ur rights way in arizona" so forgive me if I somehow confused what you wrote to actually be what you were asking.

So based on your last post, this is my assumption: your stepkids' mother is a drug addict who has been out of the picture for two years, and now your husband wants to give up his rights to so that his biological children will not be his "problem" anymore?

And you actually want to stay married to this man for what reason?

[DDS1231]

Yes I would the reason I wrote this long post than asked the question was because I wanted people to understand why I was asking this question not that it should really matter what anyone thinks. If that was an option we would not give custody back to the biological mother the agreement would have to be for the grandma to take custody of them and again its only because they have done nothing but lied and done everything possible to not want to be here. We have done nothing but provided them with a stable safe loving home never gave them any reason to feel not welcomed. Just like that they go and lie and go tell there school there scared to come home and they do not want to be here. Have the school call cps and the police come to my home and call me at work and everyone is looking at me like what's going on. My step daughter is a compose lier who believes her own lies to make people feel sorry for her for no reason but to get attention. I also realize she is only a teenager and she was in a tough situation when she lived with her mom so maybe she still feels like she still has to lie. We have tried everything and we just don't know to do from this point. Now please forgive me if I came out as rude but I feel like I am at the end with this. Last night was the last straw my step daughter has done this before and the cps and police did a investigation on my house hold which they found no reason of a danger for the kids what so ever. My stepdaughter finally admitted she was just saying this stuff cause her mom was telling her to, but how much of this can we take I have a two and three year old who are my biological kids with my husband and I do not want them to see there bad behavior and think its OK. I just feel like maybe if they will be happier with that side of the family it might be good for everyone. We could be wrong which is why I was just asking to see our options, We do have a appointment with our lawyer next week to see our different options but came across this suite when I was online and figured I would ask it could not hurt. Again nothing final at this point Thanks anyway

[Fr_Chuck]

I am closing this, the OP appears not to understand how to write in english that can be understand, ( I will have to assume english is not their normal language)

We have asked you to sum this up where it can be read and only can guess at what you are asking. Since you don't seem to want the answer to the title of the question.

Please if you can write in real english, captiol letters, periods, sentences, paragraphs, please post again where we can read.

Also don't include personal opinions of the other person, just the facts to status, past court hearings, and what you want to know.