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    Sep 16, 2010, 08:37 AM
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    That was murmured by a few only when she had a Down's child and also had small children at home plus a husband who worked far away in the oil fields.
    You need to read my last post. It was the subject of a national media debate, a question which should have never come up in this day and time and one that feminists should have screamed long and loud about, "can a mother of five, including an infant with Downs Syndrome, be an effective vice president?"
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    Sep 16, 2010, 09:12 AM
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    Why should I believe the punditry on both sides who say O'Donnell is unelectable when they have underestimated the Tea Party all year ?
    Hello again, tom:

    Karl Rove doesn't like her, NOT because of her extreme views. He doesn't like her because of her ORDINARINESS. He doesn't like her, because she's like YOU & ME. She's a member of the "unwashed". This is what he said about her:

    "One thing that Christine O'Donnell is going to have answer is her own checkered background . . . . These serious questions: how does she make her living? Why did she mislead voters about her college education? How come it took nearly two decades to pay her college tuition? How does she make a living? Why did she sue a well-known conservative think tank? . . . . questions about why she had a problem for five years paying her federal income taxes, why her house was foreclosed and put up for a sheriff's sale, why it took 16 years for her to settle her college debt and get her diploma after she went around for years claiming she was a college graduate. . . . when it turns out she just got her degree because she had unpaid college bills that they had to sue her over."
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    To members of the establishment and the ruling class like Rove, these are the kinds of people - who struggle with tuition bills and have their homes foreclosed - who belong in Walmarts, community colleges, low-paying jobs, and voting booths on command - not in the August United States Senate.

    If anything, one could make the case that those struggles are her most appealing qualities.

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    Sep 16, 2010, 09:50 AM

    Rove is being rediculuous . My guess is that during his time in Washington ,he got used to the cocktail party atmosphere and wants to be part of the in crowd.

    When I look at the cast of misfits who call themselves representatives of the people, I find it comical that anyone thinks the "unwashed" could do worse .

    I agree with you that ODonnell's degree is a classic example of the nonsense. I hadn't explored it in great detail ,but it appears her issues involved a payment dispute with the college. The college withheld the degree until the dispute was settled. Funny thing is that many people in the country find themselves in similar circumstances be it ATM fees or their utilities being shut off etc. You know... the stuff that don't happen to the John Kerry's of the world .

    I think it will be an interesting race in Delaware . There are many "unwashed " folks living life's struggles there who will find her a refreshing change.
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    Sep 16, 2010, 10:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You need to read my last post. It was the subject of a national media debate
    Even so, it was a question worthy of debate. I had only two kids, one autistic, and would never have run for public office while they were growing up -- and I had tons of energy and intelligence. I did serve as the president of the PTA for two years and was a den mother for seven, but holding public office demands travel and frequent lunches/dinners/meetings away from home -- obligations that impact on family rather than personal. I decided to give my family the best part of me.
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    Sep 16, 2010, 10:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Even so, it was a question worthy of debate. I had only two kids, one autistic, and would never have run for public office while they were growing up -- and I had tons of energy and intelligence. I did serve as the president of the PTA for two years and was a den mother for seven, but holding public office demands travel and frequent lunches/dinners/meetings away from home -- obligations that impact on family rather than personal. I decided to give my family the best part of me.
    Good for you, it's not easy, but isn't that the point? If that debate had been about Hillary Clinton NOW and the media would have come unglued. How DARE the media ask that question of ANY woman much less a sitting governor who has already proven she was up to the task. Like I said to ex, you've lost this argument so why dig the hole any deeper.
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    Sep 24, 2010, 10:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    He was interviewed this week and did the obligatory "no way" when asked if he would run.

    Christie was another one of those candidates of whom we were told "he has no chance to win".
    He's my guy, we're going to nominate him whether he wants it or not. :D

    Chris Christie confronts heckler
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    Sep 24, 2010, 10:46 AM

    Don't you just love it ?

    Yesterday the news here was abuzz with the news that Facebook creator and CEO Mark Zuckerberg ,in cooperation with Christie ,Newark Mayor Booker and Oprah Winfrey donated $100 milllion to the Newark School system.
    Here was the cynical sarcastic headline on today's Newark Star Ledger (not fit to line bird cages)
    http://www.nj.com/starledger/pdf/friday.pdf
    It is not a terrible thing that he is known by the enemies he makes .
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    Sep 25, 2010, 05:20 AM
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    Here was the cynical sarcastic headline on today's Newark Star Ledger (not fit to line bird cages)
    I suppose on the other hand it's nice that someone has realized that throwing money at schools is not the answer?

    It is not a terrible thing that he is known by the enemies he makes .
    Oh yeah, there's more from that rally than his about with the heckler.

    N.J. Gov. Christie: You may hate me now, but ten years from now you'll be sending me a thank you note

    The anti-Beck Ed Shultz responds:

    "This guy's nothing but a big bully."
    "He's throwing his weight around again."
    "Conservative talk-show hosts and heavy-handed politicians like Christie."
    "He's a cold-hearted fat slob."
    But that's fine, that's good in your face stuff since MSNBC isn't really a news outlet like Fox, it's just "the place for politics."
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    Sep 25, 2010, 05:28 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    "he's a cold hearted fat slob"
    Hello Steve:

    I would call that statement politics instead of news. I can see your confusion, though. That WOULD be NEWS on Fox.

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    Sep 25, 2010, 05:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Steve:

    I would call that statement politics instead of news. I can see your confusion, though. That WOULD be NEWS on Fox.
    I see you're still incapable of saying I'm right and you're wrong about MSNBC.
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    Sep 25, 2010, 05:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I see you're still incapable of saying I'm right
    Hello again, Steve:

    You're right... Feel better?

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    Sep 25, 2010, 06:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    You're right... Feel better?
    Sure, don't you?
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    Sep 25, 2010, 06:50 AM
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    Sure, don't you?
    Hello again, Steve:

    What you were right about, is MY inability to say that you're right - cause you're not. Yeah, I feel pretty good.

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    Sep 25, 2010, 06:54 AM

    While you make up your mind, I'll stand on the facts.
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    Sep 25, 2010, 10:31 AM

    I suppose on the other hand it's nice that someone has realized that throwing money at schools is not the answer?
    If that is what they believed... but to be honest with you ;if Christe had announced $100 million in state revenue for the district these clowns would've written editorials in support of the initiative.

    As for the additional funding ,I hope Mayor Booker and the school board use the money wisely .

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