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Jun 20, 2010, 02:53 PM
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I think, unless you STOP acting like a needy, insecure, jealous pile of nerves... you are going to lose her.
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Jun 20, 2010, 05:21 PM
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Hi
Counselor knows about the GPS, she understands why, considering my past upsets in relationships, BUT has asked to stop it although she knows its difficult to stop straight away. I am doing it less, honestly.
I do love my wife and can't bear the thought of being without her, ever. I do enjoy her company, I feel the most relaxed when I am around her. I try to understand her language too.
Kelly is married and is not seeing Kevin. If my wife just says that she caught with him and walked back with him I would not be so anxious I then would know she was being straight with me. By denying she was where she was just makes it worse for me. I am not suspecting her of cheating, I just want to know why she cannot be upfront about her day if she has nothing to hide. If your partner started taking a detour after work or at lunch time but didn't say anything and you found out in some way, you would be curious and I am quite sure you would want to know the answer to the question. I cannot believe you would choose to ignore that fact. I am not so different. How you would react in a similar situation.
I hasten to say I do not bombard my wife with all of this I keep it to myself as much as I can, although my face and voice sometimes betrays me, I do not want to jeopardise this relationship as I quite believe it to be my last chance on this earth for a happy relationship. Because I have been burnt before I am just cautious [over cautious] in ensuring she is genuine in her heart.
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Jun 20, 2010, 06:05 PM
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 Originally Posted by clickaus
Hi
Counselor knows about the GPS, she understands why, considering my past upsets in relationships, BUT has asked to stop it although she knows its difficult to stop straight away. I am doing it less, honestly.
I do love my wife and can't bear the thought of being without her, ever. I do enjoy her company, I feel the most relaxed when I am around her. I try to understand her language too.
Kelly is married and is not seeing Kevin. If my wife just says that she caught with him and walked back with him I would not be so anxious I then would know she was being straight with me. By denying she was where she was just makes it worse for me. I am not suspecting her of cheating, I just want to know why she cannot be upfront about her day if she has nothing to hide. If your partner started taking a detour after work or at lunch time but didn't say anything and you found out in some way, you would be curious and I am quite sure you would want to know the answer to the question. I cannot believe you would choose to ignore that fact. I am not so different. How you would react in a similar situation.
I hasten to say I do not bombard my wife with all of this I keep it to myself as much as I can, although my face and voice sometimes betrays me, I do not want to jeopardise this relationship as I quite believe it to be my last chance on this earth for a happy relationship. Because I have been burnt before I am just cautious [over cautious] in ensuring she is genuine in her heart.
No I would not be curious if my husband stareted to take a detour to work or didn't say anything to me about where he had lunch. That's the way marriage is and I hasten to say he would never follow me or question where I've been. It's called trust and respect and we both have that for each other.
We both had trust issues from or first marriages but we soon got over it and we've been married many years and never once have I or has he questioned our faithfullness too each other. All women are not the same and your previous relationships keep causing you to shoot yourself in the foot. Get over it.
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Jun 20, 2010, 06:13 PM
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First off, tracking my wife is not an option, burnt or not in the past. And second, No matter the outcome, she would know full well my fears, the why, and the HOW! Either she understands or not, at least she would have the whole truth to make a decision with.
That my friend may be the differences in us, how we handle ourselves in a similar situation. I don't judge, but I will comment straight up!
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Jun 20, 2010, 06:50 PM
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 Originally Posted by clickaus
If your partner started taking a detour after work or at lunch time but didn't say anything
You must be kidding! I have far more important things to do than to keep an eye on my husband's wanderings. Fry's Electronics is right down the road from Hooter's. He's maybe dropping in at Hooter's to check out the waitresses every time he tells me he's going to Fry's? O'Shaunassy's Bar is across the street from the grocery store. Maybe he's stopping in at the bar to ogle the barmaids after he grocery shops -- or before, in case he buys ice cream? Good grief!!
and you found out in some way
No, you didn't find out "in some way." You are spying on her.
you would be curious and I am quite sure you would want to know the answer to the question. I cannot believe you would choose to ignore that fact.
Actually, I have ignored it. For 43 years. I trust him.
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Jun 20, 2010, 06:58 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
You must be kidding! I have far more important things to do than to keep an eye on my husband's wanderings. Fry's Electronics is right down the road from Hooter's. He's maybe dropping in at Hooter's to check out the waitresses every time he tells me he's going to Fry's? O'Shaunassy's Bar is across the street from the grocery store. Maybe he's stopping in at the bar to ogle the barmaids after he grocery shops -- or before, in case he buys ice cream? Good grief!!!
No, you didn't find out "in some way." You are spying on her.
Actually, I have ignored it. For 43 years. I trust him.
You are wrong C. you tracked your first or second wife by gps and you tracked this one the same way. I just cannot fathom anyone doing that to someone else. You keep going to that counselor.
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Jun 20, 2010, 07:26 PM
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I am assuming you have not told your wife you are tracking her.
So how do you know how accurate your tracking system is? What evidence do you have that the phone can tell whether the phone is on one side of a building or another or one one side of the street or another? What if minor amounts of imprecision are leading you to think your wife is lying when she's telling the truth?
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Jun 20, 2010, 07:35 PM
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 Originally Posted by asking
I am assuming you have not told your wife you are tracking her.
So how do you know how accurate your tracking system is? What evidence do you have that the phone can tell whether the phone is on one side of a building or another or one one side of the street or another? What if minor amounts of imprecision are leading you to think your wife is lying when she's telling the truth?
Tell me what did the first woman do to make you distrust her? Why are you so down on yourself? Were all three of your relationships with Oriental woman? I think it's sad to be treated that way , being so far from home with no choice but to stay with someone who wants to know every single second of their activities. I wouldn't put up with for asecond. You would be wearing that GPS. I'm trying to help you but I don't know why you feel so insecure or why and when you became this way.
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Jun 20, 2010, 08:07 PM
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I did a little reading around and the number I'm seeing for locating cell phones is typically to within about 100 meters, though it can be off by a lot more than that depending on the situation. To me, that doesn't tell you which side of a street she is on or which entrance to a building.
Complicating factors include whether the phone uses gps (more accurate) or cell tower triangulation (less accurate), number of cell towers in the area, obstructions such as large buildings or hills, etc. About 90% of phones use cell tower triangulation, but even with real gps, satellites can be blocked. My sister sent me a gps unit and it doesn't work at all at my house.
So I'm saying that it's not even clear that you know what you think you know. I think you should throw out your tracking software and think about what nice thing you can do for your wife tomorrow (so she'll feel loved and not ever want to leave you).
I recommend that you read The five languages of love and spend your time figuring out which love language your wife speaks. Then do all the things that will make her feel loved.
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Jun 20, 2010, 08:11 PM
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 Originally Posted by asking
I did a little reading around and the number I'm seeing for locating cell phones is typically to within about 100 meters, though it can be off by a lot more than that depending on the situation. To me, that doesn't tell you which side of a street she is on or which entrance to a building.
Complicating factors include whether the phone uses gps (more accurate) or cell tower triangulation (less accurate), number of cell towers in the area, obstructions such as large buildings or hills, etc. About 90% of phones use cell tower triangulation, but even with real gps, satellites can be blocked. My sister sent me a gps unit and it doesn't work at all at my house.
So I'm saying that it's not even clear that you know what you think you know. I think you should throw out your tracking software and think about what nice thing you can do for your wife tomorrow (so she'll feel loved and not ever want to leave you).
I recommend that you read The five languages of love and spend your time figuring out which love language your wife speaks. Then do all the things that will make her feel loved.
Asking, that is so great you found imformation about the gps. That's great. C. Listen and read this and see that your fears are unfounded.
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Jun 20, 2010, 08:22 PM
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You know what , you can go to counselling till the cows come home , you can keep posting on here about how she should tell you the truth instead of telling you little white lies about where she is , and you're the one pushing her to do so by being so insecure because she knows that if she tells you your going to read more into it than what there may be.
But until you lose that GPS and stop tracking her trying to find something that may not even be there , she will leave you in the end. There's just so much one can take before they finally break.
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Jun 20, 2010, 08:33 PM
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 Originally Posted by friend4u178
You know what , you can go to counselling till the cows come home , you can keep posting on here about how she should tell you the truth instead of telling you little white lies about where she is , and your the one pushing her to do so by being so insecure because she knows that if she tells you your going to read more into it than what there may be.
But until you lose that GPS and stop tracking her trying to find something that may not even be there , she will leave you in the end. There's just so much one can take before they finally break.
You really need to trust the woman. How in the world can she stand the constant interrogations? I would have been gone in a New York minute.
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Jun 20, 2010, 08:38 PM
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Hi
I agree that GPS [find my phone app in iPhone] is not pin point accurate but I believe when it shows me she is going in the opposite direction to home and down a street a block away from our apartment complex.. I started this with my previous girlfriend [yes, she was asian] who constantly told me she was not allowed out after college as she was living with big sister, only to find she was out every night that she wasn't with me and finally caught her in a restaurant with another guy after finding she was at his house the night before, now that is accurate enough.
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Jun 20, 2010, 08:40 PM
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 Originally Posted by clickaus
Hi
I agree that GPS [find my phone app in iPhone] is not pin point accurate but I believe when it shows me she is going in the opposite direction to home and down a street a block away from our apartment complex.. I started this with my previous girlfriend [yes, she was asian] who constantly told me she was not allowed out after college as she was living with big sister, only to find she was out every night that she wasn't with me and finally caught her in a restaurant with another guy after finding she was at his house the night before, now that is accurate enough.
Did you use a gps to find this out? It's a shame you don't have enough confidence in yourself to stop this.
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Jun 20, 2010, 08:41 PM
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I am looking for that book
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Jun 20, 2010, 08:42 PM
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 Originally Posted by clickaus
I am looking for that book
Good!
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Jun 20, 2010, 09:32 PM
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 Originally Posted by clickaus
Hi
I agree that GPS [find my phone app in iPhone] is not pin point accurate but I believe when it shows me she is going in the opposite direction to home and down a street a block away from our apartment complex.. I started this with my previous girlfriend [yes, she was asian] who constantly told me she was not allowed out after college as she was living with big sister, only to find she was out every night that she wasn't with me and finally caught her in a restaurant with another guy after finding she was at his house the night before, now that is accurate enough.
After all these posts , etc.. You are still lost and do not get it do you.
Your taking problems from previous relationship and making it a problem in this one.
You are the problem not your wife. Your borderline stalker. You keep trying to justify your actions with the gps but you can not base it on an ex cheating on you.
I honestly hope that things work out for you too, but as long as you keep doing this to your wife. YOU WILL LOSE HER. No matter what she does, it will only be YOUR FAULT.
Starting to think she is better off without you in her life. Starting to really think this marriage is doomed because you are not getting it. NOTHING is sinking in your head.
OTHERS, have already said they would have left you long time ago if you were pulling that crap with them. IF and I say IF, she sees anybody else or cheats on you, afraid to say it will be your fault. At the same time people who are in these situations find it hard to get out of because of the control and guilt factor. That is caused by the person who is always trying to put a leash on them.
Your wife is NOT YOUR DOG. Start treating her like you LOVE HER, start treating her better then you would then a dog and GET THE CHAIN Off HER NECK.
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Jun 20, 2010, 09:36 PM
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 Originally Posted by Jesushelper76
After all these posts and etc.. You are still lost and do not get it do you.
Your taking problems from previous relationship and making it a problem in this one.
You are the problem not your wife. Your borderline stalker. You keep trying to justify your actions with the gps but you can not base it on an ex cheating on you.
I honestly hope that things work out for you too, but as long as you keep doing this to your wife. YOU WILL LOSE HER. No matter what she does, it will only be YOUR FAULT.
Starting to think she is better off without you in her life. Starting to really think this marriage is doomed because you are not getting it. NOTHING is sinking in your head.
OTHERS, have already said they would have left you long time ago if you were pulling that crap with them. IF and I say IF, she sees anybody else or cheats on you, afraid to say it will be your fault. At the same time people who are in these situations find it hard to get out of because of the control and guilt factor. That is caused by the person who is always trying to put a leash on them.
Your wife is NOT YOUR DOG. Start treating her like you LOVE HER, start treating her better then you would then a dog and GET THE CHAIN OFF OF HER NECK.
C.. read this and then go back through all the advice you have been given.
It's really a little no a lot creepy stalking your wife. We want to help but if you keep doing the same thing over and over we're not getting through to you.
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Jun 20, 2010, 10:35 PM
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With the previous girl I found out by accident after she told me she couldn't come out as she had to help family with a big dinner. Just before I decided to go to bed I send her a message say goodnight. Didn't get one back, checked the GPS for the first time essentially to gain comfort from the fact it would show me her at home.. WRONG she was actually at this other guys house who turned out to be a customer at the café where she worked. What a mug I was. The GPS help me avoid so much more pain. The just added to the list hurt from previous relationships, way before the invention of GPS..
I am not defending my actions as such. Just trying to protect myself from being hurt again... sorry guys.
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Jun 20, 2010, 10:40 PM
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 Originally Posted by clickaus
With the previous girl I found out by accident after she told me she couldn't come out as she had to help family with a big dinner. Just before I decided to go to bed I send her a message say goodnight. Didn't get one back, checked the GPS for the first time essentially to gain comfort from the fact it would show me her at home.. WRONG she was actually at this other guys house who turned out to be a customer at the cafe where she worked. What a mug I was. The GPS help me avoid so much more pain. The just added to the list hurt from previous relationships, way before the invention of GPS..
I am not defending my actions as such. Just trying to protect myself from being hurt again... sorry guys.
You need to stop this this! Don't judge all women by one. Lose the GPS or lose your wife... that's your options.
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