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    Apr 16, 2010, 05:24 PM
    Catholic Church Forgives Beatles!
    Better late than never, it only took about 40 years. Ringo Starr said he doesn't care. They took over 300 years to forgive Galileo, so I guess this is fast for them. Maybe in another 30 years they'll forgive the Rolling Stones. Hopefully they will never forgive rap!
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    Apr 16, 2010, 07:30 PM
    What a load of... who cares?. did the Beatles even repent?
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    Apr 16, 2010, 07:43 PM

    I guess I can start playig "yellow submarine" for communion now
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    Apr 16, 2010, 07:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    I guess I can start playig "yellow submarine" for communion now
    No Chuck yellow submarines are a Mormon thing but "Eleanor Rigby," might be apt
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    Apr 16, 2010, 07:56 PM

    Ringo said ;
    "I think the Vatican, they've got more to talk about than the Beatles."

    Your right Ringo ;and you have more to concern yourself with than the comment of a Catholic cleric . So shut up and sing.
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    Apr 16, 2010, 08:07 PM

    Was Ringo or any of them Catholic ?

    Of course I already have requests for "Lucy in the Sky with Diamods" for the funerals
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    Apr 16, 2010, 08:53 PM

    It's not up to the Catholic Church to forgive anybody... God does that if they ask!
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    Apr 16, 2010, 09:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    No Chuck yellow submarines are a Mormon thing but "Eleanor Rigby," might be apt
    Yellow submarine is mormon? Cool. I like that song, and have nothing against the mormons.

    What, exactly, is the catholic church forgiving the beatles FOR? I wasn't aware they had anything to do with each other.

    I guess, in the grand timeline of the catholic church, 40 years is nothing. They DID just admit the earth is round in the 60's. I guess it took seeing it from space to hammer the point home.
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    Apr 16, 2010, 09:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hheath541 View Post
    yellow submarine is mormon? cool. i like that song, and have nothing against the mormons.

    what, exactly, is the catholic church forgiving the beatles FOR? i wasn't aware they had anything to do with each other.

    i guess, in the grand timeline of the catholic church, 40 years is nothing. they DID just admit the earth is round in the 60's. i guess it took seeing it from space to hammer the point home.



    I'm sure the world breathed a collective sigh of relief knowing the Catholic Church has forgiven The Beatles... Yippee... I know I'll sleep better.. :rolleyes:
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    Apr 16, 2010, 10:29 PM

    I didn't know they were mad at each other.
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    Apr 17, 2010, 01:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    Was Ringo or any of them Catholic ?

    Of course I already have requests for "Lucy in the Sky with Diamods" for the funerals
    Burying druggies now Chuck?
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    Apr 17, 2010, 03:22 AM

    Pope Benedict XVI sanctioned an article in the Vatican's L'Osservatore Romano newspaper earlier this week, in which the Beatles were praised for their "beautiful" music and were absolved for their rock star decadence and experiments with drugs.
    SFGate: Daily Dish : Ringo Starr rejects Vatican's Beatles forgiveness

    Last year I attended a Ringo Star concert at Radio City Music Hall. He annually tours with an "All Star Band" .It was a fun night. My wife and daughter have been to this twice before and are going to this year's concert also. We love the Beatles music . I think they are
    2nd best next to Elvis in the history of Rock and Role . I had all their albums and my daughter has every Beatle song she can find downloaded on her iPod.

    It was simply a gesture on the part of the church .If Ringo is going to be a jerk about it then so be it.

    Shut up and sing.
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    Apr 17, 2010, 03:29 AM

    Reading that, I don't think he was being a jerk.

    Were any of the beatles even catholic? If not, then what right does the catholic church have to pass judgment on them one way or the other. Even if one of them were catholic, they would only have the right to judge that member, within the confines of their religious beliefs and system.

    No church, or organization, has the right to pass judgment on non-members. It's simply not realistic, or fair, to expect someone to live by rules and beliefs they don't believe in.
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    Apr 17, 2010, 03:45 AM

    The church made those comments about the Beatles in the 60s reacting to comments John Lennon had made about the Beatles being more popular than God.

    They now are attempting a gesture of rapprochement. Take it or leave it.
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    Apr 17, 2010, 06:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The church made those comments about the Beatles in the 60s reacting to comments John Lennon had made about the Beatles being more popular than God.

    They now are attempting a gesture of rapprochement. Take it or leave it.
    You make those sorts of comments you get an answer, where may I ask is Lennon now? God remains on top of the popularity pole and Lennon is nowhere to be seen
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    Apr 17, 2010, 11:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    You make those sorts of comments you get an answer, where may I ask is Lennon now? God remains on top of the popularity pole and Lennon is nowhere to be seen
    Nobody knew John Lennons' heart. Only God does.. He is a just God.
    Look at some of your well respected, and I use the term lightly, so called Ministers like Pat Robertson... Saying The song "Imagine" was sacrilegious and it should have been banned... IT WAS A SONG.. John sang the song from the point of view of just that, to make a point of how the world would be. I don't agree with the statement they were more popular than Jesus Christ... He' the only King.

    By my understanding and I know some of you will use your big words and your usual religious rhetoric to answer this if you even look at it.
    John Lennon apparently believed in Heaven and Hell or why in the world would he write "Imagine there's no heaven'... he surely believed there was or he wouldn't have written the song. Whether he was a child of God
    I don't know and neither do you.

    It's not up to the Catholic Church, Pat Robertson or any one else to say where John Lennon is. He's dead... but he is in the hands of a just God.
    Whether he was saved or had SALVATION is not up to any of us to decide. It's not the Baptist, The Mormon, The Lutheran, The Pope or the Catholic Church etc. who can forgive or judge anyone. They need to clean out their own backyard before cleaning some else's
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    Apr 17, 2010, 12:10 PM

    Like I said ;it was more a gesture of rapprochement and not a declaration of God's judgement.

    I happen to believe that Lennon did more good than bad for this world and is justly rewarded.

    He certainly has enriched my life .
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    Apr 17, 2010, 12:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    like I said ;it was more a gesture of rapprochement and not a declaration of God's judgement.

    I happen to believe that Lennon did more good than bad for this world and is justly rewarded.

    He certainly has enriched my life .
    I loved the Beatles... I didn't agree with their remark about Jesus Christ.
    Never got to see them in concert... "In My Life"... beautiful song.. Bless you:)
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    Apr 17, 2010, 01:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    It's not up to the Catholic Church to forgive anybody...God does that if they ask!
    Exactly right. Took the words exactly out of my mouth.

    Too be honest, Beatles are my favorite group of all time and I honestly do not think that they need any forgiven...

    Why would they need it?

    There was lots of controversy over nothing. Catholic church, does not have the authority to forgive anyone...

    My God, please help the Catholic Church find the real truth... Not what they think the truth is.
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    Apr 17, 2010, 02:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesushelper1976 View Post
    Exactly right. Took the words exactly out of my mouth.

    Too be honest, Beatles are my favorite group of all time and I honestly do not think that they need any forgiven...

    Why would they need it?

    There was lots of controversy over nothing. Catholic church, does not have the authority to forgive anyone...

    My God, please help the Catholic Church find the real truth... Not what they think the truth is.



    Perfect agreement Joe... God is the only one, anyone of us have to answer too. There is no mortal man on God's Green Earth who has the power to forgive my sins and save my soul. The one who did that died on a cross over two-thousand years ago.:)

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