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    #21

    Aug 24, 2009, 08:23 AM

    My belief is different I believe god made the beautiful globe for a purpose and he will fulfill that purpose one day it says
    "he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth"
    I don't want to go to heaven annd be a angel I would much rather live right here on a clean disese free planet
    That is why I have NEVER felt the threat of a global nuclear attack he will not allow it
    That is when he will step in
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    #22

    Aug 24, 2009, 03:33 PM

    Great post, Classy.

    I don't know what others think, but I'm not basing my expectations on some Mayan calendar, or time lines from some old book, not even the Bible. Now don't get upset. If the timeline was there, certainly Jesus would have known it, right?

    I base my expectations of what will happen on coming events, interpreted by the Scriptures.

    Example: Both Daniel and John were given visions of a "Little Horn". (Anti-Christ). Daniel saw him coming from one of the divisions of the old Grecian Empire. He also saw him coming from the 4th beast, unknown by name to Daniel, but known to us (and John) as Rome.

    John saw a "beast" with 7 heads and 10 horns, and then a "little horn" roots out 3 of the 10 horns and assumes power over the government/coalition that will be the final world power that will opress Israel in the "times of the Gentiles".

    You see, John saw the entire "times of the Gentiles" starting with Egypt, then Assyria, Babylon, Greece, Rome, the future 10 government alliance, and finally by the Anti-Christ. Daniel saw the same sequence, only starting with Babylon.

    When we see 10 nations that were within the boundaries of the Greek Empire and Rome come together in an alliance, the next major occourance will be the rise of a consummate politician who will be able to gain the backing of the Muslim world and also the confidence of Israel. Then the treaty will be made that Anti-Christ will break after 3 1/2 years. I suspect that those 10 nations will all be Islamic.

    It will not signal the end of the world, only the end of the Church age and after the 7 year Tribulation, the Millennium when Jesus Christ will reign unchallenged and the saints will work in the administration of affairs on Earth.

    Make your application for a job in the Millennium early.
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    #23

    Aug 24, 2009, 03:58 PM

    Hi Ex.

    I like your threads.

    Well I don't think the world is coming to an end in 2012 or whatever other time it will be.

    I watched the movie Zeigeist, not sure if you did.
    Zeitgeist, The Movie - Remastered / Final Edition

    In that video it talks about the end times. It made sense to me.

    To be honest, I am not sure what to believe but the last thing I want to do is to be trapped in some religion. I have my own morals. I know not to kill a person... no matter how angry they make me-- ahem.

    Back to the subject:

    Will there be an end time-- well by the looks of the gaping ozone layer and this whole global warming stuff, I say yeah.

    Also, doesn't the sun last for 10 billion years-- eek. What will we ever do when it burns out. Oh yeah, die.

    Sarah
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    #24

    Aug 24, 2009, 04:23 PM

    I remember there being a website where the closeness to rapture was tracked by looking at world events and corresponding them to the warning signs in the bible. Does anyone know where that was? It was really interesting.
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    #25

    Aug 24, 2009, 04:57 PM
    But that would only work from the popularity of the web circa 1995 and on. I'm quite certain this end-of-times talk has gone on for much longer than that.
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    Aug 24, 2009, 09:03 PM
    I wish I had a good joke here, but I don't. I am a Catholic and my Husband is Jewish (he will be going to Hell, of course) LOL in case no one got that.:)

    We are attempting to live our lives as much as possible. We are not thinking about pending doom, or dwelling on it. It sounds like the Christians are doing the same thing, but still thinking about it.

    I do NOT mean that disrespectfully. I'm just listening to what has been written.

    I was born a Catholic (my Mother 'of course') than raised 5 years Babtist, 3 years Protestant and then went on to learn what I could about the Jewish religion, this was all before I was 15 years old. I respect it all and understand some.

    But I will never believe that someone can tell me Tuesday will never come again:)

    Again I have no spell check and it's pissing me off!:mad:
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    #27

    Aug 25, 2009, 07:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    But that would only work from the popularity of the web circa 1995 and on. I'm quite certain this end-of-times talk has gone on for much longer than that.
    End time - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Not the best for information,but it gives a list of end time predictions by different religious groups.

    End times are not just a Christian belief,it is a belief by all the monotheistic faiths and other predictions have been found in different ancient calendars too.


    Here is another site with end of the world signs.
    Nostradamus prophecy end of world date forecast prediction the end is nigh dates predict guess when will world end
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    #28

    Aug 25, 2009, 07:50 AM
    Cool, I learned a new word: eschatology - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
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    #29

    Aug 27, 2009, 02:46 PM

    Hi ex... as previous posts have said, this date has been predicted, over and over.

    The truth is no one knows...
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    #30

    Aug 30, 2009, 12:00 PM

    I basically disagree with JesusHelper saying we can not know the end times, the Bible says you can not know the exact date but you can know the time and the season meaning when we ARE in the end times we will know it. Non believers will refuse to believe it though no matter how bad it is and how exact the Bible has predicted it.
    People who have predicted they were in the end times in the past did it without lining up all the Biblical prophecies.
    Everything IS lined up now.
    BUT, as for my comments, I have not said when the end as in the last day will be, but rather that we are in the beginning of the end times. But with the end times we can come up with an approximate idea of the 'last days'

    I find this very interesting from the little I have watched so far

    YouTube - Manna Fest 314 Mysteries Reserved For the time of the end 1 of 3

    YouTube - Manna Fest 412 Strange Cosmic Signs from 2012-2015 3 of 3
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    #31

    Aug 30, 2009, 02:43 PM

    Basically disagree with Jesushelper?

    It is not me your disagreeing with? Lol It is The Bible and God.

    Anyway,
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    #32

    Aug 30, 2009, 02:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesushelper76 View Post
    I am a Christian.

    If a Christian goes by the bible. NO ONE KNOWS THE END. THE LAST DAY. NOT EVEN THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN OR JESUS HIMSELF KNOWS THE DAY.

    Okay, just had to say that.

    Yes, like others have said. Many religious leaders have claimed to know the end, or last days. Each and every time they were wrong.
    Exactly my friend! If Jesus does not know,who are we?

    I just watched the history channels "Antichrist" last night on line... Snore.

    There was very little I did not know and what I learned was for the most part how the coming of the Antichrist has been written for ages and every age believed it was their time,according to the signs of the time.

    There was some very interesting points and it was a good documentary but some of it was very repetitive.

    I love the History Channel!
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    #33

    Aug 30, 2009, 03:02 PM

    Then What does Matthew 24 mean when it says to watch the time and the season and be prepared.

    The Bible DOES make it clear we will know when we are in the end times. We just won't know the exact hour of his return.
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    #34

    Aug 30, 2009, 03:13 PM
    So the end of times could last 5,000 years?
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    Aug 30, 2009, 03:20 PM

    No it doesn't last 5,000 years.
    We are only nearing the end times now.
    The Bible says that there will be many anti christs and rumors of the end before the actual end times and the actual end time anti christ. The Bible says the end can't begin until some time after Israel is made a nation and the fig tree blooms which proves that the claims prior to 1948 were rumors.
    That is just one of many examples of how things have not been lined up for end time Revelation to have begun yet.
    We are on the cusp of the beginning of the end times.
    I think the anti christ is suppose to be something like 3 1/2 or 7 yrs.
    When it is mandatory that we are chipped with the RFID chips we will be into the actual end times.

    Here is a link of Bible verses that show what things have to be happening and working together
    http://www.raptureforums.com/Signs/50reasons.cfm
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    #36

    Aug 30, 2009, 03:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So the end of times could last 5,000 years?
    If you look at biblical history and read into the end of times for different peoples you will see that it DOES last for some I.E. soddom & gomorah,noahs time etc. each example shows a warning time and then a destruction.
    5000 yrs?if that's your time frame.
    I say we have been living in the time of the end for this system of things since the early 1900's
    This will only mean anything to you if you believe in the bible
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    #37

    Aug 30, 2009, 03:36 PM

    I do believe that we are closer to the End times than we were, say a few hundred years ago, but I don't believe anyone knows the exact time of the Hour.

    I also do believe in there being signs of the end,but as history has shown we have seen (well not literally us,but the world) similar tribulations faced at different times,yet the world did not end during or after those tribulations.

    Now, for being a global village, every tribulation faced by one nation affects people across the globe.Like the recession in America affects the Asian region because we are connected. The same way, we see the tribulations as being more closer to home and heart.

    We have to also understand that the world is overpopulated, resources are not enough, our natural world is at peril,ozone layer is being affected,
    The poor get poorer, diseases in the third world,whatever medications are available not affordable to them,
    Endless wars,every other country fighting their neighbor,
    Etc just a few things that comes to mind.

    There we see parts of the prophecy regarding end times that there will be chaos in the world before the end times, disease, rampant killings,famine,natural disasters on the rise.

    I also do see some signs which we believe in ,but we have specific signs or major signs as we call them and the world will not end before that.
    I will also say that there is every possibility that this generation of people alive at this moment may not see the end of the world.
    Our own deaths maybe closer than the end of times.
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    #38

    Aug 30, 2009, 03:39 PM

    Exactly firmbeliever.
    All these things add up and equal we are living in the approaching end times.
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    #39

    Aug 30, 2009, 04:13 PM

    Hello again:

    End, schmend... Don't go... Who're we going to sell our schlock to?

    excon
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    #40

    Aug 30, 2009, 04:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by zippit View Post
    this will only mean anything to you if you believe in the bible
    Whew, then I'm safe then.

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