[1099669]

Why do I swear on a bible in court when the Ten Commandments can not be displayed outside?

[NeedKarma]

No need to swear on the bible at all: Your Options When Being Sworn In Before You Answer Questions In Court. | Criminal Law Canada

[1099669]

No need to swear on the bible at all: Your Options When Being Sworn In Before You Answer Questions In Court. | Criminal Law Canada

I don't let my spiritual beliefs pull me around life by the nose. I use the Creator's gift that I am endowed with to deal effectively, successfully and happily with my life here on this Earth. I do not use the Creation of my life to make excusses; I use it as an empowerment. I don't pray for help; I pray for greater challenges. I didn't come into life owing anything to anyone and I certainly don't owe anything to anybody who will not use their OWN incredible Creation of life to do for themselves. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN ORIGINAL SIN. Morality for me does not come from a Bible; it comes from the nature of the being I am Created. After all, HE Created us just as we are long before the Bible was created

[NeedKarma]

Wow that's quite a little rant that seem random to the question asked. Good for you I guess. I'm an atheist that doesn't get his morals from any creator, unless you count my parents as that. :)

[1099669]

Wow that's quite a little rant that seem random to the question asked. Good for you I guess. I'm an atheist that doesn't get his morals from any creator, unless you count my parents as that. :)

My beliefs on religion are simple. The Earth is a creation. And in order for there to be a creation, there must be a Creator.

[spitvenom]

Wasn't it Marlon Brando who had to testify in court but refused to swear on a bible. He said something like while I do believe in god, I do not believe in the same way as others, so I would prefer not to swear on the bible. I think they had some other thing to swear on I forget.

[hheath541]

So, if I ever need to testify in court, what do I swear on? I don't have a religion. Can I bring a box of stones to swear on? Or a deck or tarot cards?

[spitvenom]

I don't know hheath but if you ever have to testify let me what they did. I'm an escapee from the catholic church.

[hheath541]

I escaped from the mormon church. We can band together.

[NeedKarma]

I'm the same as you guys and I believe it's the same in the US as in Canada, you make an oath of affirmation: Oath or affirmation legal definition of Oath or affirmation. Oath or affirmation synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

[hheath541]

I'm the same as you guys and I believe it's the same in the US as in Canada, you make an oath of affirmation: Oath or affirmation legal definition of Oath or affirmation. Oath or affirmation synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

So I CAN'T swear on tarot cards?

[NeedKarma]

Hmmm... if you try call me, I'd like to watch it. :)

[hheath541]

I wonder if they let people take pictures and video in court? Probably not.

[NeedKarma]

Yea, that's a big no-no in most places.

[hheath541]

Darn it. And here I wanted to post the experience on YouTube.

[ETWolverine]

The courts in the USA allow for "attestations" or "affirmations" instead of "sworn oaths" in case one feels they cannot swear due to religion, or does not wish to swear on a Bible. These "affirmations" have the same legal power as swearing on the Bible, and the pergury penalty for lying under "affirmation" is the same as for lying under oath. Swearing on a Bible is neither necessary nor required.

So I question the basis of the OP. I agree with the SENTIMENT of the post, but not the statement itself, which is demonstrably wrong.

More of an issue for me is the fact that CERTAIN religious symbols are not permitted in public court houses, but OTHERS are. The PC ones, like Islamic religious symbols are never challenged, by Jewish and Christian ones are challenged all the time. THAT seems hypocritical to me.

Elliot

[Lashercelt]

The things that are tolerated in the United States by alien religions and cultures would NEVER be tolerated in MOST foreign countries. And yes, I said "alien".. this country ran along just fine having God fearing men as it's founding fathers. Now we have embraced every religion anyone wants to spew and drag over our borders. Of course, we must be PC as to not offend anyone with these beliefs and all the while our core religious belief system is flushed down the toilet and trampled on.

[hheath541]

The things that are tolerated in the United States by alien religions and cultures would NEVER be tolerated in MOST foreign countries. And yes, I said "alien".. this country ran along just fine having God fearing men as it's founding fathers. Now we have embraced every religion anyone wants to spew and drag over our borders. Of course, we must be PC as to not offend anyone with these beliefs and all the while our core religious belief system is flushed down the toilet and trampled on.

Excuse me, are you aware that CHRISTIANITY is alien to america? It was brought over and FORCED on the indians.

[Lashercelt]

Hi hheath,

Yes, I am aware that Christianity was brought here. The beginning of our government, of our Nation as it stands today, was implemented by God fearing men.. their Christian God. That is my point.

We could go as far back as when people, as some still do, believed that Odin and Thor and Freya were running things. And Christians forced their religion upon those folks too. BUT it goes in a direction that I wasn't. My point has to do with the beginning of this country we live in today.. The United States of America and how you shouldn't try to fix things that are not broken.

[hheath541]

Actually, many of the founding fathers weren't christian at all. They were freemasons.