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simoneaugie · Jul 24, 2009, 07:26 PM

Yeah, it's good to really know what you're talking about... Aren't freakin' and fricken' just variations of the F word?

Those breaking-wind machines are so freakin' funny, well, I must think so 'cause I own 3. In fact we were wetting our pants joking around with them when my Aunt said that it was offensive to her. Hey, we put them away till she left! She came by unnanounced while we were laughing, her bad.

N0help4u · Jul 24, 2009, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by simoneaugie

Yeah, it's good to really know what you're talking about...Aren't freakin' and fricken' just variations of the F word?

Those breaking-wind machines are so freakin' funny, well, I must think so 'cause I own 3. In fact we were wetting our pants joking around with them when my Aunt said that it was offensive to her. Hey, we put them away till she left! She came by unnanounced while we were laughing, her bad.

LOL I always hated the farting joking so I started telling my son and my boyfriend that they are the farts.
I have heard ONE good fart joke in my life that didn't irritate me :p
But my kids and boyfriend think it is a really stupid joke.

simoneaugie · Jul 24, 2009, 07:37 PM

Why are certain sounds so funny to some? Why are certain words or sounds so offensive? My MIL thinks the movie Wayne's World is stupid. I crack up every time I see it. Learning to accept that we are all different, and that's okay, that's the trick.

N0help4u · Jul 24, 2009, 07:48 PM

Yeah it is weird there are a lot of common words that irritate my ears and other words that I kind of like.
Like I don't like 'rally around' for some reason.

Tokugawa · Jul 25, 2009, 04:19 AM

I don't find the f word offensive in any way, it's just that I find the over use of it to be vulgar and unimaginative. It's really just used as an exclamation after all. What's the difference between an "idiot" and a "f-ing idiot"? It would seem that one is more of an idiot than the other. Even using the "censored" f-ing, instead of just typing the word itself seems quite absurd. It spells the same thing after all. The only reason I don't is that I realise that some people may take offence to it.

N0help4u · Jul 25, 2009, 04:30 AM

Yeah exclamation usage is more tolerable than listening to the obnoxious over use of words. But it isn't that I get offended but more like I feel like
WHY dion't they JUST shut UP!

firmbeliever · Jul 30, 2009, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello Christians, and anyone else who is offended by down home cussing:

I started thinking about words. I'm not offended by any of them. Some of the worst, are actually the best, in my view. But, I know some people are, and I wanted to talk to them. You guys are the closest to the ones whom I'd expect are offended by certain words....

Ok, is it the WORD, or what the word suggests that is offensive? Like, how is, "that's freaking good" OK, as opposed to "that's f***** good"? Is even writing that word the way I just did using lots of ***'s, offensive???

excon

From someone who never swear and I do mean never use any of the cussing words (except maybe "damn" or "darn" ), I find that when someone uses the F word in my presence, it sort of degrades them in my view.

I sort of lose respect for them because they seem to be crass enough to swear while talking to me.
Ok I can tolerate people when they swear but would prefer if they refrained while talking to me.

I am not sure if it is the word itself that offends, and more than that when people use the word damn or sh!t it seems less offensive.
Also possibly the F word seems to degrade an act of love that should not be termed as such.

I also find that when people use certain swear words in our native language it seems more offensive.I guess it seems more personal.

About the written word, most of the time the word does not seem offensive when I read than having a person say it to my face, again the feeling of it being more personal.

Athos · Jul 30, 2009, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello Christians, and anyone else who is offended by down home cussing:

I started thinking about words. I'm not offended by any of them. Some of the worst, are actually the best, in my view. But, I know some people are, and I wanted to talk to them. You guys are the closest to the ones whom I'd expect are offended by certain words....

Ok, is it the WORD, or what the word suggests that is offensive? Like, how is, "that's freaking good" OK, as opposed to "that's f***** good"? Is even writing that word the way I just did using lots of ***'s, offensive???

excon

Why Christians? "You guys"?

Do you really need to have vulgarity explained to you? When Jews get married in front of family and Rabbi, do they say, "Do you take this f***** woman to be your wife"? - or whatever the Jewish ceremony is. I doubt it.

Do you have no sense of place? Even the worst low-lifes know when not to use bad language.

Shape up, excon.

excon · Jul 30, 2009, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

Shape up, excon.

Hello A:

You're a f**king idiot!

excon

excon · Jul 30, 2009, 12:39 PM

Hello again:

Now, do you see what I mean? The superlative I used above communicates SOOOOO perfectly the tone I wanted to deliver. There ain't no other word that does that.

excon

Athos · Jul 30, 2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again:

Now, do you see what I mean?? The superlative I used above communicates SOOOOO perfectly the tone I wanted to deliver. There ain't no other word that does that.

excon

There are plenty of other words that do that. You're just not literate enough to know them.

DoulaLC · Jul 30, 2009, 01:06 PM

I think it can depend on who you are with when using such "colourful" expressions. If you are with your friends and they all pepper their speech for emphasis, that can be one thing and many would not find offense in such a situation.

It is when someone has no regard for who they are speaking to, or in the presence of, and seemingly every other word could be challenged as being inappropriate, that it might be seen by some as either an appalling lack of language or social skills, or simply a lack of common courtesy.

Words can impact individuals greatly, whether you are the one speaking them or hearing them. I think the key is to just be mindful of where you are and who you are with so that you don't inadvertently offend or cause someone to think less of you that you might not want to leave with that impression.

N0help4u · Jul 30, 2009, 01:14 PM

I agree.
I forget who made ain't popular in I think a song. Back in the 60's or before (I think a Louie Armstrong song). I sure couldn't get away with ain't without hearing about it.

Ain't that a shame
Ain't nothing like the real thing

Athos · Jul 30, 2009, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by DoulaLC

I think it can depend on who you are with when using such "colourful" expressions. If you are with your friends and they all pepper their speech for emphasis, that can be one thing and many would not find offense in such a situation.

It is when someone has no regard for who they are speaking to, or in the presence of, and seemingly every other word could be challenged as being inappropriate, that it might be seen by some as either an appalling lack of language or social skills, or simply a lack of common courtesy.

Words can impact individuals greatly, whether you are the one speaking them or hearing them. I think the key is to just be mindful of where you are and who you are with so that you don't inadvertently offend or cause someone to think less of you that you might not want to leave with that impression.

Obviously. But excon seems to be incapable of understanding this.

DrJ · Jul 30, 2009, 01:39 PM

What does literacy have to do with it?

The main reason why people don't use such language is because they don't want other to look down on them... or think poorly of them.

A life spent in constant search for admiration is a life wasted. Doesn't take an educated man to figure as much.

jmjoseph · Jul 30, 2009, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

Obviously. But excon seems to be incapable of understanding this.

I think that excon is capable of understanding most everything that comes across his monitor. Don't make the mistake of under estimating him.

Synnen · Jul 30, 2009, 03:11 PM

I'm more likely to think you're an idiot if you use the wrong homonym (accept/except; your/you're; it's/its; etc.) than if they use swear words.

Idiocy is in HOW you use words--not which words you use.

I have absolutely NO problem with kids swearing in English papers if it makes them write in complete sentences: using the correct words, with the correct spelling and punctuation.

Its when dey can't keep from typing lyk idjits who's computers can't except the spellchecker because its 2 complakated and before you no it u'v got a 1337 grupe qwik typers who r 2 dum 2 axually no what the h3ll their talking about.

Athos · Jul 30, 2009, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by jmjoseph

I think that excon is capable of understanding most everything that comes across his monitor. Don't make the mistake of under estimating him.

I haven't. My estimation is based on what he has written in this thread.

excon · Jul 30, 2009, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

Do you have no sense of place? Even the worst low-lifes know when not to use bad language.

Shape up, excon.

Hello again, Athos:

I suppose that you're not going to stop till I respond... Okee doakee.

Here I was having a nice discussion with my friends when you came along and insulted me. I took exception to it. Ain't nothing more difficult than that.

Now go climb back under your rock!

excon

DrJ · Jul 30, 2009, 03:46 PM

I found the point of this thread to be the irony of society's outlook on what is acceptable here. As it has been said, it shouldn't be about the words that are used but the way in which you use them.

Ignorance can be just as easily displayed without the use of cuss words as it can with it.

And for the people who take offense to such words, why wouldn't replacement words offend just the same?

Why is "you're a frigging idiot" okay when "you're a f***ing idiot" is not? You are essentially saying the same thing. Sure the latter of the two packs a little more punch but it is only because of it's shock factor... which is only shocking because of this ingrained idea that such words are taboo.

Just another example of accepting "beliefs" that were passed down from other generations without ever stopping to ask why.