[Dare81]

Sweet inconsistency! How fair thou art, beloved by multitudes.

You can get your shorts in a wad if you think someone might get a position in this administration if there is any hint of racism in his background.

You are quite comfortable with the appointment of anyone who favors abortion, gun confiscation, or giving huge sums of money to failed businesses.

Go figure!

Edit: Oh, WAIT! That was a Republican thing. You don't approve? What a surprise!

SO being againts guns and abortion is the same as being a racist.:confused::confused:

Edit: Oh wait you don't know what you are talking about

[IWHO]

SO being againts guns and abortion is the same as being a racist.:confused::confused:

Edit: Oh wait you dont know what you are talking about

Hahahahaha!. :D

[ETWolverine]

SO being againts guns and abortion is the same as being a racist.:confused::confused:

Edit: Oh wait you dont know what you are talking about

No, being against guns and [pro] abortion (I assume that's what you meant) is not racist. But talking about people who "get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," is quite biggoted, don't you think?

Not racism, but definitely bigotry.

[excon]

"get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," is quite biggoted, don't you think? Not racism, but definitely bigotry.

Hello El:

Noticing the difference in people isn't bigotry. Unless Sarah Palin is a bigot when she visits a small town and applauds "real Americans".

Nahh. Neither of those remarks are bigoted. Of course, I expect you believe what Sarah Palin said is NOT at all the same as what Obama said...

Hmm. Based upon your definition, that means you're a bigot...

excon

[ETWolverine]

Hello El:

Noticing the difference in people isn't bigotry.

Then I guess you have no problem with racial profiling as a method of controlling crime and preventing terrorism. Good, we agree on something.

Hmm. Based upon your definition, that means you're a bigot...

Excon

I prefer to think of myself as a discriminator. I discriminate between right and wrong, good and bad, correct and incorrect, moral and immoral, etc. I do NOT believe in moral equivalence, the equality of all "lifestyles" or that all choices are the same. So yes, I discriminate.

But I thought that liberals were above that sort of thing. Or so they claim... their actions seem to be otherwise.

Elliot

[excon]

But I thought that liberals were above that sort of thing. Or so they claim... their actions seem to be otherwise.

Hello again, El:

Even though we try, rednecks are very hard to ignore. It's the trying that makes us better than you.

excon

[ETWolverine]

Hello again, El:

Even though we try, rednecks are very hard to ignore. It's the trying that makes us better than you.

excon

Trying to ignore the differences between right and wrong makes you better than us?

Uh huh. Keeps saying things like that and the 2012 election is in the bag for us. Y'see, MOST people in the USA still know the difference between right and wrong.

[Skell]

No, being against guns and [pro] abortion (I assume that's what you meant) is not racist. But talking about people who "get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," is quite biggoted, don't you think?

Bigotted?? Maybe... Very truthful though!!

[Dare81]

Trying to ignore the differences between right and wrong makes you better than us?

Uh huh. Keeps saying things like that and the 2012 election is in the bag for us. Y'see, MOST people in the USA still know the difference between right and wrong.

With people like rush running your party you can forget about 2012 or 3012, bring some decent people in and maybe then the republican party has a chance at winning.I personally like bobby jindall

[IWHO]

With people like rush running your party you can forget about 2012 or 3012, bring some decent people in and maybe then the republican party has a chance at winning.I personally like bobby jindall

I don't want to get involved, you guys/gals are WAY above my head on this, but I CAN tell you this... RUSH DOES NOT RUN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! Just saying... :D

[galveston]

The lefties like to set up straw men that they can easily knock down. They pick someone they think is an easy target for their smear machine.

Rush will do for now. Tomorrow it will likely be someone else, just so long as they can DEFINE their opposition to their liking.

In the primaries, they went out of their way to "help" us choose a "suitable" candidate, one that they perceived as weak.

I hope that next time, those of us West of the Eastern seaboard actually get a voice in choosing who will run!!

[tomder55]

Gal ,great point. The Republicans would be better served if they did away with primaries open to all voters.

[Dare81]

The lefties like to set up straw men that they can easily knock down. They pick someone they think is an easy target for their smear machine.

Rush will do for now. Tomorrow it will likely be someone else, just so long as they can DEFINE their opposition to their liking.

In the primaries, they went out of their way to "help" us choose a "suitable" candidate, one that they perceived as weak.

I hope that next time, those of us West of the Eastern seaboard actually get a voice in choosing who will run!!!

So your argument here is...
I thought mc cain was a strong candidate , and then he started aligning himself with the far right . If he would have picked a better down the middle republican as his VP I probably would have voted for him

[tomder55]

Dare ;
McCain did not compete until he selected Palin. After that he was running a tight race with Obama until the September /October surprise (I still am not convinced that George Soros wasn't doing some currency manipulations like he has been known to do in the past) .

[Dare81]

Dare ;
McCain did not compete until he selected Palin. After that he was running a tight race with Obama until the September /October suprise (I still am not convinced that George Soros wasn't doing some currency manipulations like he has been known to do in the past) .

Yes because the republican base got behind him after he chose palin but he turned off a lot of independents.

[tomder55]

The fact is that the polling numbers through most of Sept. 2008 was a dead heat. It is undeniable that the reason McCain lost was the financial crisis. It is equally undeniable that Palin selection as VEEP was the factor until that point that made it a close race .

[excon]

It is undeniable that the reason McCain lost was the financial crisis.

Hello tom:

It CAN be denied, and I'm denying it. But, that's my job around here - cleaning up after you righty's.

excon

[tomder55]

Poll Sept 12 .
NEWSWEEK Poll: McCain, Obama Dead Even | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com

Dead heat at 46% each.

Sept 14... Lehman Bro collapes.

September 18 McCain flip flops and reverses his previous position on the $85 billion AIG bailout .

Sept 24 McCain "suspends" his campaign and calls for cancelling debate .

The rest is history .

[Dare81]

poll Sept 12 .
NEWSWEEK Poll: McCain, Obama Dead Even | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com

dead heat at 46% each.

Sept 14 ....Lehman Bro collapes.

September 18 McCain flip flops and reverses his previous position on the $85 billion AIG bailout .

Sept 24 McCain "suspends" his campaign and calls for cancelling debate .

The rest is history .

Here we go again

CBS News August 29-31, 2008 Barack Obama 48% John McCain 40%

On August 29, 2008, in Dayton, Ohio, Republican presidential candidate John McCain announced that he had chosen Palin as his running mate


Gallup Daily Tracking (among registered voters) August 23-25, 2008 Barack Obama 44% John McCain 46%

[tomder55]

Thank you ;you just proved my point in # 54