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    tompappas Posts: 2, Reputation: 1
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    #1

    May 4, 2009, 04:07 PM
    Non working shut off valve
    I recently read about a way to fix a leaking toilet shut off valve by inserting an intermediate valve between the old valve and the supply line, which avoids replacing the non-working valve. Now can't locate article. Can yoou help?
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    May 4, 2009, 04:30 PM

    Why not just fix the valve, Is the water supply line to the shut off copper PVC Iron? Is it a threaded end on that valve for toilet supply?
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    #3

    May 4, 2009, 04:32 PM
    Replace the broken valve. Why add another one?
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    #4

    May 4, 2009, 04:39 PM
    Wolfie makes a good point. These are inexpensive angle stops. To replace one?
    15 minutes tops. Follow sabrewolfes advice and replace the angle stop. Good luck, Tom
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    May 4, 2009, 04:39 PM

    I agree with the above statements. Lets just replace the old valve. Please let us know what you have, or post some pictures of your vavle and we will help you through this.
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    May 4, 2009, 05:06 PM

    I see I need to be more precise on the word "fix" meaning to replace it.

    Its like fixed or repaired.

    My point was replacing the actual valve which would fix the problem here, that's why my questions on what pipes involved here
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    May 4, 2009, 05:22 PM

    I agree with all to replace the angle valve, shut off the water to the toilet, see the image below will show how to replace the angle valve, it is cheap and easy to replace, good luck.

    John
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    May 4, 2009, 05:37 PM

    Come on guys. I know you mean well.

    This, I believe is the produce he is hunting for:

    3/8" RETRO VALVE by Watts Water Technologies - More Water valves at doitbest.com

    Yep, have one. Way too lazy to do it right.

    It provided a quick means of being able to turn off the water when a toilet was having problems and occaisionally overflowed. The current shut off was non- quarter-turn and this made it very quick to be able to turn off the toilet supply.

    The new toilet doesn't have to overflowing problem when it blocks.

    But it's a quick fix for someone with severe arthritis.

    Angle stop replacement can be difficult or hard. It's supposed to be easy, but usually isn't.
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    #9

    May 4, 2009, 05:48 PM

    So capping the options fixing the problem

    1. Buy the same shutt off valve and use its new valve stem and seals and install into old valve body if its still good.


    2. If the old valve body is not good then reuse new valve to replace old and it was matched up for sweat or thread.

    3. Add another valve as Kiss suggested.

    ( see Rivets digram for internal valve stem installation )

    Nothing really left.
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    May 4, 2009, 06:22 PM

    Thanks KISS. Didn't know such a thing was made. Wish I'd known that back when I had a couple of condo units. Changing a stop valves was easy, getting the water turned off so I could do it was always a pain.
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    May 5, 2009, 12:07 AM
    Thanks for all the help. I have replaced valves in the past but the original plumbing in this house is so bad that a previous resulted in the valve coming completely off the copper pipe.
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    #12

    May 5, 2009, 04:28 PM

    Well, Kiss gave you what you were looking for. Looks like a very viable option for a diy, easy fix.

    Thanks Kiss, I didn't know these existed either. Can't say I will be using one personally, but it is nice to know they are there for emergencies.
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    May 6, 2009, 06:35 AM

    Will still have to shut water off if existing valve is not working at all.

    If leak from existing valve is slow and u are fast enough, u may be able to catch it on the fly. Put a small pot or dish under existing valve to catch water.

    Good luck

    Chuck
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    May 6, 2009, 07:19 AM

    Is your S/O valve sweated or a compression one? if it a compression one it easy to replace it with a new one, ref to my post #7, if it is a sweated one get back to us and we will direct how to replace it,

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