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Triund · Apr 30, 2009, 07:32 PM

I was watching Joel Rosenberg's talk with Glenn Beck on Youtube. This is a 5 part video. Joel is incredible. Then I bumped into another 7 part video on Youtube which is called "The End Times". The End Times is a wonderful video. Did anyone see these videos? And what do you think about Joel Rosenberg?

I am also looking at the things happening around us and those are in line with prophecies in the Bible. How many are saying that we are heading into the end times? I am not sure whether we have already entered the period of end times. Yet I have not forgotten that Jesus has said that the no body knows the final hour. Does any one has more to share on the end times?

Fr_Chuck · Apr 30, 2009, 07:38 PM

The intersting thing about end times, every generation thinks this is the end. Are you heading, of course since every year is one year closer to some date.

Even the early church thought they would be the end, many felt it was only a few years after christs rising that it would come.

Those in all eras of church history felt it was the time.

So we can feel it is the time, till the next generation proves us wrong perhaps.

That is the trick about the end time, we will not know it, till it happens, the theft in the night

450donn · Apr 30, 2009, 07:52 PM

There are many bible scholars that truly believe that the earth is in the last days. Not as it was seen 2000 years ago, but because so many prophesies have already been fulfilled that we are in the end of the last days. Check out Grant Jeffries for one.

galveston · May 2, 2009, 02:53 PM

Jesus gave ONE specific prophecy concerning the end.

Matt 24:14
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
(KJV)

The Apostles took the gospel of the kingdom to the then known world, but obviously the end didn't come then.

However, in my lifetime I have observed the gospel being taken around the world, and it is not likely that there is a NATION (I did not say individual) that has not heard the gospel. If there are, their number is few.

So from that stand point, there is NO prophecy that must be fulfilled before the end of the Church Age.

Maranatha

arcura · May 2, 2009, 10:06 PM

We have been in the end of times for 2000 years.
For Jesus to return the third temple must be built on Temple Mount and the anti-Christ booted out.
At present Temple Mount is under control of Islam peoples via and agreement with the Jews who do have ownership of that mount.
Moneys are beenung gathed for the rebuilding of the Temple of Yahweh.
A great dispute is now going on concerning the mount.
I fear that it will be a long time before the third temple is built.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcira)
.

galveston · May 3, 2009, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by arcura

We have been in the end of times for 2000 years.
For Jesus to return the third temple must be built on Temple Mount and the anti-Christ booted out.
At present Temple Mount is under control of Islam peoples via and agreement with the Jews who do have ownership of that mount.
Moneys are beenung gathed for the rebuilding of the Temple of Yahweh.
A great dispute is now going on conserning the mount.
I fear that it will be a long time before the third temple is built.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcira)
.

You are still not getting that the Churh age will end before the Great Tribulation period, during which time the Temple will be rebuilt. The actual construction time could be very short.

Wondergirl · May 3, 2009, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by galveston

You are still not getting that the Churh age will end before the Great Tribulation period, during which time the Temple will be rebuilt. The actual construction time could be very short.

Does God have a copy of this plan? He certainly will have to go through a lot of hoops before He can end the world.

galveston · May 3, 2009, 02:23 PM

[QUOTE=Wondergirl;1709157]Does God have a copy of this plan? QUOTE]

You betcha!

Wondergirl · May 3, 2009, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by galveston

You betcha!

Most of the Christians in the world don't agree that this is His plan.

450donn · May 3, 2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Most of the Christians in the world don't agree that this is His plan.

HUH??
If God is God what hoops will HE need to go through to get anything done? HE certainally will not need the help or approval of people to do what he has promised to do in the last days. Most of which has already been accomplished BTW!

JoeCanada76 · May 3, 2009, 06:00 PM

I agree with FR.CHUCK.

Everybody thinks they are in the end times.

There are some preachers that preach the doom and gloom. That the end of the world is coming now. In this generation. Or some even have the nerve to predict certain dates, the world will end. The thing is, God is the only one that knows. I personally do not believe it ever ends. Life is on going one way or another.

If this place is done, then another place will be created.

I also feel that if this world does end or we all parish it will be our own doing. We are slowly destroying this world.

Joe

EDIT: The coming of christ will happen WHEN NO ONE EXPECTS IT. As long as we are all expecting it, it will not happen.

classyT · May 3, 2009, 07:26 PM

Jesushelper,

It doesn't say NO ONE will expect it... and last time I checked... not very many people expect it. Just take a look at this so called Christian board... not many are "expecting" it.

The second coming will not take place until the 7year tribulation period and the anti christ, but I do believe THIS generation will see it. Jesus said we CAN know about when... even when it is at the door.

Wondergirl · May 3, 2009, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by classyT

The second coming will not take place until the 7year tribulation period and the anti christ

And, again, most of Christianity doesn't espouse this teaching.

classyT · May 3, 2009, 07:30 PM

WG,

That's a shame... but truth is truth whether we believe it or not.

Wondergirl · May 3, 2009, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by classyT

WG,

That's a shame....but truth is truth whether we believe it or not.

So only a small segment of Christianity has "truth"?

JoeCanada76 · May 3, 2009, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by classyT

WG,

That's a shame....but truth is truth whether we believe it or not.

The truth is no one knows the day, the hour, the minute, the second. Except for God and only God. That is the truth.

Joe

classyT · May 3, 2009, 07:43 PM

WG,

Beats me... I only know that God's Word is absolute truth and that no scripture is of private interpretation, we need to have the Holy Spirit to even understand it fully, we must rightly divide it , put it in context and not add or subtract from it. IF ONE does this, I DO believe there would not be the divisions we find now. I don't care how many believe it, last time I checked it was a VERY SMALL "segment" that believe the Lord Jesus Christ when he was here.

classyT · May 3, 2009, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Jesushelper76

The truth is no one knows the day, the hour, the minute, the second. Except for God and only God. That is the truth.

Joe

Joe,

Now THAT is truth! ;)

Wondergirl · May 3, 2009, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by classyT

VERY SMALL "segment"

Guess you guys will get the best seats then.

450donn · May 3, 2009, 08:11 PM

YUP! We will have a front row seat at the final battle for all of the souls of this earth.