[none12345]

If the girl is under 23, i don't recommend you settle down with her.
You might wake up one morning and she will say '' I am not sure what i want anymore'' Confusion is very frequent at that age. i think 25 and up is a good age to settle down. it also depends of the level of maturity and you will feel if the girl is stable and knows what she wants. Heck my ex was 29 and still did not know what she wanted.

Oh. Do they want to be able to sleep around or something and not ready to commit?

[PirandelloLuigi]

Oh. do they want to be able to sleep around or something and not ready to commit?

For sure, they want to explore, they want to see what's out there. Times have changed, people study till their late twenties now, it's hard to focus on work, school and relationships.

A lot of stress and pressure. It's usually best when all this is done and the girl is ready to get serious. Watch out with girls who never had a serious relationship, you might be their first test.

[teastalk]

Is the above also true for boys?

[none12345]

Hmmm I don't know about you guys. But I'm the type of person that would want a girl that waits for the special someone and not sleep around... >_< because I'm the same

And yes it goes both ways teastalk

[Nestorian]

I have read that women, won't appreciate men who are more serious and ready to settle down till they are 33. In general. You know, how we are told, "You're a nice guy, but i don't love you." I'm guessing the women wasn't entirely mature, and probably younger than her 30s. It was a Psychological study on what people want. Well, girls are complaining that they can't find that "nice guy", they are also turning them down left and right. The reasoning behind it was: We live longer, go to school longer, work longer, and retire for longer periods of time; generally speaking. Girls are no longer looking to settle for just any one, they are going to get out and test the cake before they eat it. Not that that is bad. So what they want now, is not a "Nice Guy" but a fun exciting, entertaining, sexy, and relaxed guy who isn't overly into her, nice guy. The illusion of freedom is kept visible, but the burden of the broken heart is no less painful. The get hurt enough, and loose all self respect and well, now we are seeing girls who have no self respect, and show their breasts for just about any reason to any one, and they don't mind that the guy they are with looks at an another girl or cheats on them, because they do the same. What happens behind closed doors eh? There is nothing wrong with this, it's just how they choose to find their way through life.
Usually, the girls who realize they are tiered of the drama, constant drinking, and repeating of the same thing every weekend, look for a guy who is "different", the stereotyped "Nice Guy" and settling down. Nothing wrong with that either.

The reason it bothers us is because we do all the things they ask, but they don't really voice their desire for adventure, or if they do they put it in words that are only half true or explain it as a one time event. Yes there are exceptions to all this, there always seems to be in any situation.

All we can do, is figure ourselves out and let life bring us close to some one we'll love or give us on heck of a ride.

Personally I think the Reckless, careless and foolish ideals of society have deceived us. We got greedy and tried to reach for the stars, but we all know that to reach a star is to get burned. Now every one wants to have what they want, do what they want, sleep with whom they want, and ignore the consequences. Myself and all others included, if you exempt yourself, you are only foolish yourself. We all have needs, and wants, desires, and dreams. It is to be human. But can we shift our thoughts and not think that to not have something so trivial as a nice dress, or bigger truck, or the latest trendy fashion. When is enough, enough? And where is respect, honor, even love. It seems to me that many call "Lust" love. Yes we need passion but lust is uncontrollable, while love is controlled and responsible. I don't know, maybe I'm just insane, but it looks to me like every one is a sell out, and as long as we all agree on it, no one cares.

This applies to every one, male + female.

[none12345]

I have read that women, wont appreciate men who are more serious and ready to settle down till they are 33. In general. You know, how we are told, "You're a nice guy, but i don't love you." I'm guessing the women wasn't entirely mature, and probably younger than her 30s. It was a Psychological study on what people want. Well, girls are complaining that they can't find that "nice guy", they are also turning them down left and right. The reasoning behind it was: We live longer, go to school longer, work longer, and retire for longer periods of time; generally speaking. Girls are no longer looking to settle for just any one, they are going to get out and test the cake before they eat it. Not that that is bad. So what they want now, is not a "Nice Guy" but a fun exciting, entertaining, sexy, and relaxed guy who isn't overly into her, nice guy. The illusion of freedom is kept visible, but the burden of the broken heart is no less painful. The get hurt enough, and loose all self respect and well, now we are seeing girls who have no self respect, and show their breasts for just about any reason to any one, and they don't mind that the guy they are with looks at an another girl or cheats on them, because they do the same. What happens behind closed doors eh? There is nothing wrong with this, it's just how they choose to find their way through life.
Usually, the girls who realize they are tiered of the drama, constant drinking, and repeating of the same thing every weekend, look for a guy who is "different", the stereotyped "Nice Guy" and settling down. Nothing wrong with that either.

The reason it bothers us is because we do all the things they ask, but they don't really voice their desire for adventure, or if they do they put it in words that are only half true or explain it as a one time event. Yes there are exceptions to all this, there always seems to be in any situation.

All we can do, is figure our selves out and let life bring us close to some one we'll love or give us on heck of a ride.

Personally i think the Reckless, careless and foolish ideals of society have deceived us. We got greedy and tried to reach for the stars, but we all know that to reach a star is to get burned. Now every one wants to have what they want, do what they want, sleep with whom they want, and ignore the consequences. Myself and all others included, if you exempt yourself, you are only foolish yourself. We all have needs, and wants, desires, and dreams. It is to be human. But can we shift our thoughts and not think that to not have something so trivial as a nice dress, or bigger truck, or the latest trendy fashion. When is enough, enough? And where is respect, honor, even love. It seems to me that many call "Lust" love. Yes we need passion but lust is uncontrollable, while love is controlled and responsible. I don't know, maybe I'm just insane, but it looks to me like every one is a sell out, and as long as we all agree on it, no one cares.

This applies to every one, male + female.

hey dude watsup? How's it going man?? Anything new? =P how's life? How's it coming? XD

[none12345]

Do you guys believe in the fairy tales that true love will always have a happy ending? =P

[Nestorian]

Do you guys believe in the fairy tales that true love will always have a happy ending? =P

I'm better taday, tired but better. My mum moved out from the 2 bed room apartment she, my sis, and I we sharing. Very stressful. Blah.

And I got good news from the government. I get more money, well not more but there are some things I can do to help me get a better grasp on school and getting a job. Finnaly things seem to be looking up. I'm tired of this rock bottom, talk to no on, ignore life entirely crap. I want to start working towards living now.


Recently bin deciding what my dreams are, still not srue. Also, still trying to forgive myself for my ex, but it will come with time.

I believe that life is here, we just have to decide what to do with it. When we do, we better get ready for a lot of bumps along the way, with also a few crashes, they are bound to happen.

So fairy tale love, maybe, I'm sure there are those who are quite in love and happy. They say the best things in life, are free. But they also say, the best things in life are worth waiting for. So you decide. Is there a future Fairy tale women in your life, or no...

I'm still focusing on me so, it's still undecided for me.

[talaniman]

Do you guys believe in the fairy tales that true love will always have a happy ending? =P

I think I have been through too much to believe in fairy tales, as if you can imagine Prince Charming farting, or Cinderella, not giving the Prince his nookie because she has a headache, or on the rag, then yeah fairy tales can come true. But reality says June Cleaver tells Ward, to put the toilet seat down, when he takes a piss. Fairy Tales always give the romantic view, and everyone lives happy ever after, but reality is that everything has a downside to deal with, they just don't tell you what it is. You find out though, when you get your Cinderella (or Prince Charming), that she(he) will have her/his faults, just as you do, and how you deal with it is what's important.

True love is two partners willing to work through the realities of life, together, no matter what you have to deal with. There is no confusion, or indecision about that, between them.

[joshrach1031]

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I do, my girl, and I are are broken up, and I love her to death, and will do aything for her. If you love someone, how can you let it go? It will always be there, no matter what. Love is like a circle, it goes around forever, its not like heart those are meant to be broken.

[talaniman]

Not sure I understand what you mean Josh, but what if the one you love, doesn't share your feelings??

[Romefalls19]

I think what he is trying to say is that love never goes away, which is true. I still love everyone that I used to, but I am not in love with them nor do I want to be with them. You will always have that feeling of love for them because they are a part of your life, they shaped in in which no other person could have shaped it. So with that, I agree, we will always love a person but won't always be in love with them.

[none12345]

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I do, my girl, and I are are broken up, and I love her to death, and will do aything for her. If you love someone, how can you let it go? It will always be there, no matter what. Love is like a circle, it goes around forever, its not like heart those are meant to be broken.

If you truly love a girl than you ll be willing to let her go so she can be happy also right? I know it would be awesome if that person she's happy with is with you because that way you ll be happy too but sometimes it doesn't work that way I guess

[makapuu]

If I needed to let go of my boyfriend, I would wish him the best, be happy for him, and move on. There is nothing less attractive than a girl desperately hanging on to an old flame. I know such a desperate woman... My boyfriend's previous girlfriend has tried to stay in my boyfriends life by giving him "innocent" gifts. Little does she know that the TV she gave him is now in my apartment, and the bottle of wine that was "for their special occasion" was used to toast his new relationship with me.

When relationships end, there needs to be a mourning period when your support system kicks in and helps you through your No Contact stage. I think it is critical to go through this stage, otherwise you'll end up in denial and desperate to get back what you lost.

[Nestorian]

Josh, Love is like a circle, but can easily be tainted or twisted into other things such as: Lust: when one craves another's attention and affection and is willing to do anything for it. Very dangerous. Jealousy: when one loves another, but the other's love is given to an out some one else. There are more but no need to cover everything eh. What I'm getting at is that even if you love some one, it doesn't always mean you will or should be with them, and it seems that a lot of people think that that's how it works. You find one person to love, and that is all there is; but in reality, there is a big world of people out there and you never know where you'll find love. So it wouldn't seem wise to get hung up on one person, or the Lust, or jealousy, and even hate can be the result. At the same time I'd like you to know I understand what you mean about still loving your ex, though you're not together. Mind you, I'm not sure I'd use the term, “to death”. Because she lives her life, and now you are living yours. There maybe friendship there, but is that the love two people share when they are so connected that they are growing together, or are they growing with others?
Personally I think It's all relative, and subject to ones interpretation, but so is all else… “No matter where you go or what you do, you live your entire life within the confines of your head.” ~Terry Josephson

I will also state that I do not think it healthy for people to believe that Love is about self sacrifice, giving everything up just for that person, and dropping your life for them when ever they ask it of you. That I think would be a part of many complexes, the be perfect, try hard, Nice guy, Hero, etc; but these say that you don't really love yourself or Respect yourself. To just drop everything for her, with out a thought for yourself. “If you don't keep yourself above water how can you expect to hold your friends up?” -Me. (old concept, but I just made the words up. If any one can give me reference to where the concept came from I'd appreciate it.) First and most important we must take care of our needs before we can help others learn how to take care of their needs.

Romefalls19, good point that love never really fades. I think people confuse the idea that love dies with the idea that we simply see, or focus on other things making it appear to be that love is gone. Anger, frustration, hurt, sorrow, fear, suffering, Lust, jealousy, and all that is hard to see through when looking for love. Its like the clouds covering up the sun. It's this bright ball of fire, yet water in a gas like state can block or fade it out. We know it's there, but we can not see it until the rain has fallen. Eh?

Makapuu, I don't really like how you worded that top bit about letting go and moving on, it just seems cold and heartless. I'm sure you didn't mean that though. As for the taking time away from that person, mourning, healing, and denial; it seems like a solid expression of what we often experience.

I've come to ponder the idea that, love is not about proving yourself to some one, dedicating yourself to some one, pleasing some one, making kids/ family, sex/ intimacy, and being willing to do anything for some one. No, I wonder if it's not about, Loving yourself, knowing yourself, forgiving yourself, and feeling all those as well as the above family/ friends/ sex/ intimacy/ etc; for some one who reciprocates the same feelings. Then there is the willingness to grow together. But above all else is the taking of responsibility for yourself and your love upon your own shoulders. So that means if the one you love does not reciprocate the feelings and such then you must accept that, and take your time to deal with that, so you can grow again, unhindered by past regrets and suffering.

Maybe that is kind of obvious, but I wonder why others ignore it and attack others for their own fears. Rather than deal with them. I s'pose I know that but it's usually a wise choice to get confirmation.

May peace and kindness be with you.

[Nestorian]

Thanks Talaniman. Not very many people seem to like that quality in me, as it's a little too sierious I guess. Maybe I need to en-lighten up? XD haha. Yes, well, uhh... As haggrid might say, "sorry 'bout that." Even I don't get me half the time. Lol.

Oh, which reminds me, Mr. Burns "Oh, and one more thing: [ominously] you must find the jade monkey before the next full moon.

Smithers: Actually sir, we found the jade monkey; it was in your glove compartment.

Burns: And the road maps? And ice scraper?
Smithers: They were in there too, sir.
Burns: Ex-cellent! It's all falling into place."

The episode of the simpsons, "Homer goes to school." Funny stuff. Haha.

[talaniman]

Your also a nut, but I say that with much love, and respect.:D

[Nestorian]

Your also a nut, but I say that with much love, and respect.:D

:eek:Haha, thanks. :D:p

P.S. I s'pose I can let some one else take the 100th post, unless editing counts for that?

[none12345]

:eek:Haha, thanks. :D:p

P.S. I s'pose I can let some one else take the 100th post, unless editing counts for that??

haha you got the 100th post =P how's it going nestorian?? How's life? Wutcha been up to these days? =P

[Nestorian]

haha you got the 100th post =P hows it going nestorian??? hows life?? wutcha been up to these days? =P

Funny, mine said I was the 99Th post. Haha. In yo face-book, wait... What? :p What eve.

I'm OK, need to get my brain working again, it's in tired mode.:eek: You mean there is another Mode?! :p Yeah, that's me. I'd explain it as being like caboose off Red Vs Blue, YouTube - RVB - The Best of Caboose Season 4 and 5

I've bin trying to play my guitar. And I'm trying to get a lot of government who ha worked out so they will pay me for being ill, but other than that, I listen to music, read what ever, and try to go to the gym every so often.
So I guess you could say, life is interesting.

How about you None? What's your new story?