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    #61

    Oct 21, 2008, 07:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by GDArtist View Post
    But why does he make me cry so easy??? We are doing wonderfully...he is taking me out...on dates..coming to see me when I show homes...we are so close...his divorce was final 2 weeks ago... we are so close! It's wonderful...wine at night with popcorn, watching football games to old movies...he even invited me over to be with his friends...to be with his other buddies and their wives saturday night..that was huge. Sunday we spend the evening together..he said he thinks about me non-stop...from morning till night...Then...this morning...out of the clear blue sky...after we spent the evening together last night...we had so much fun...this morning he said Julie, I don't know if I could ever live with you, or get married again...I started crying. Help. It's honestly all about timing. He isn't ready...I am. He probably can sense this tremendously. I maybe said the wrong things...he said to me driving to KC, Julie what are you thinking....I told him...I only want to be with him...that I've turned down 4 men to be with you...because I believe in you. Did I mess up? I do believe we will work this all out...he loves me, but hasn't said it yet. Someone please tell me to chill, and to stop crying!!!lol
    Help.

    I agree with the others give him time, he just got a divorce you are still getting to know him, don't cry but appreciate what you have now with him. You don't want to ruin that. Also do not let a man know what sacrificies you made for him, next time leave the part out about you turning down guys to be with him that was your decision. Relax, take it easy don't put too much pressure on him or yourself.
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    Oct 21, 2008, 10:34 AM

    Thank you - you all are right... need to just have fun.. relax..
    Not worry so much.. I worry about everything... again thank you!
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    #63

    Oct 21, 2008, 12:28 PM

    Chill out girl :)

    He is still with you. Just take it slow and when is ready.. I'm sure you will be the first to know.

    Try not to plan everything out. And just take it day by day

    Good luck
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    #64

    Oct 24, 2008, 05:46 AM
    Super Flopped.
    I haven't met my man's son yet. He wanted to give it some time, since his divorce was 3 weeks ago - doesn't want his son to think he was jumping into anything. Last night, I was suppose to cook supper for my Doug... hadn't heard from him since the morning, when we talked about supper. He called me at 5:30, I was at the door - returning a dog, from dog sitting... for a family, who's son had died from Lymph Cancer - to make a long story short, they were over to pick up their pooch. I couldn't talk to Doug, and so when I was done, I called and asked where to have supper... so on. He didn't answer. I tried several times. So I thought I'd go over to his house and fix it... or surprise him... he surprises me all the time, when I am bowling or to bring me coffee in the am...
    I went to the door, and his son answered, I was shocked... said I would come back another time. It was terribly awkward. Doug's son was not suppose to be there, it was his mother's evening per Doug. I went over to a girlfriend's house who lives close by, and spent the evening with her family and a bunch of kids from the same school his son goes to! He texted me later stating his son was disturbed.. and asked me why I did that. I felt so bad, but my girlfriend said I handled the phone call really well, and defused the situation by inviting them both over for supper, at her house... she encouraged it since she knew them. He was not happy at all. Val said I handled it great. He hasn't called me at all. He is mad at me apparently. She said I don't own this problem, he should have communicated with me he was interviewing over drinks...

    What do I do next? I haven't heard from him since last night... and I know he is mad.
    I haven't called him.

    Thank you...
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    Oct 24, 2008, 06:47 AM
    You had no way of knowing what was going on, so don't blame yourself at all. The whole thing could have been avoided with some honest communications on his part, as a phone call, would have explained he was busy, and see you later.

    So take his anger, with a grain of salt and see how unfair it is to you. Given its okay to "surprise" you whenever he feels like it, his being mad is unfounded and unfair.

    Don't be so smitten that you put up with him being angry over his mistakes. Stand up for what's right, and fair, for yourself.

    Could this be just a preview of his true character? Pay attention, and don't let love blind you!!
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    Oct 24, 2008, 09:30 AM
    Thank you so much... for the advice... it was just weird... he could have text me, or said he had an appointment... he hasn't called me all morning.. but he is in a meeting this am... should I let
    Him call me? He called last night, when I was at my girlfriends house... funny thing about this is my confidence got shaken. Feel a bit insecure about this... hate that.

    God bless you for your response...
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    Oct 24, 2008, 10:11 AM

    Carry on with your life, and balance yourself with things that you enjoy.

    He will call if he has something to say that makes sense.

    Why should you be insecure, and lose confidence, because of his lack of clear, honest, caring communications?

    That's no good, so chin up.
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    #68

    Oct 24, 2008, 10:56 AM
    Thank you so much...
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    #69

    Oct 24, 2008, 11:03 AM

    I wrote him and said hope you are having a good day... he wrote me back and said I thought you were home last night, didn't know you were gone. He immediately responded Hey blonde, when I talked to you on my way hone I went home and laid on the couch and watched TV, I dozed off. I was home alone Zach went to his moms house before I got home. He didn't want to come over with a bunch of HS kids over at the house... It's all good.. he said he had the day from hell yesterday... I asked him if he missed me... he hasn't responded... again... I hate the texting...
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    Oct 24, 2008, 12:31 PM

    STOP the texting!
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    #71

    Oct 31, 2008, 01:23 AM
    I was hidden in a bathroom yesterday.
    For the first time in my life I was hidden yesterday, in a bathroom.

    My boyfriend and I are getting very close... his divorce was final 3 weeks ago. I stayed the night at his house, which I never do, and we've been spending tons of time together... I love him. We are like glue. He hasn't said those "love" words yet, but his actions are there. He calls me a lot and wants to be with me.

    Right now I am terribly confused, can't talk to him, so here I am again, wondering what to do.

    He picked me up for dinner, it was wonderful... we went to his house and I spent the night. Things were great. In the morning, we were both getting ready for work, and all of a sudden he said someone was at the door, it was his son - no warning, his mother just dropped him off without a phone call, my boyfriends immediately told me to go back in the bathroom. I stayed there till the kid went downstairs, then made me run out to the car so he could take me home. My shoes and purse were visible... He hasn't introduced us yet, because he doesn't feel the kids ready yet. But he has told him about me. We have been dating 5 months and his divorce was final 3 weeks ago. My boyfriend says we are going to meet, but then it doesn't happen.

    To top it off, and in a state of shock after being hidden, felt almost comical - he calls me around 10:00 am and ask me to make him chili for his work. They are having a cook-off today. I tell him sure. He keeps talking about this accountant woman who is going to be there as well, who he says he's not attracted to, because she is not good looking and heavy set. Talks about her a lot. I am making the chili, because all of his employees want to know how good he cooks.. he knows I am a good cook. 8 other people are cooking as well including this accountant.. he will get all the credit for the chili I make which is weird, but I don't care. I had plans with Val, my girlfriend, and her family that evening... her son is teaching my son to play the guitar. My boyfriend has a cigar and wine tasting event to go to... Val asks me to bring over all of the ingredients and cook it at her house, My original plans were to cook it after I spent time with Val... around 8 at my house.

    He calls me mid-afternoon and I told him at this time it bothers me he's always talking about this accountant woman.. I ask, is there something I need to know about? He said no, and gets mad, I could tell, and said this conversation was over... yet he is so jealous, I can't look at a man... he then states he will pick up all the ingredients I bought, and cook it himself... tell him no, I will cook it, Val wants me to bring it over, so they can have some.

    I am at Val's house, and she thinks it's ridiculous he won't tell the boy, that it's time. That I had every right to ask about this accountant... Val's daughter was upset, she goes to school with his son, and doesn't say anything, she knows how delicate the situation is.

    I cook his chili over at Val's house - his company food, and he calls me, and I said I am just bothered by today, just don't want to be hidden again, and he said it won't happen again. Val heard the whole thing, he then said he wanted to come over to my house and cook this when I got home, together, for his work. He sends me mixed signals. Thought he wanted to pick the food up... I try to tell him my feelings on the accountant, and he said if I saw her, I would understand... so we drop this... and I tell him today just didn't feel right... I try to ask him how he's not going to hide me anymore from his son, and he said I won't come over anymore, again until he tells Zach, and he doesn't know when that will be, and he says this several times, and then he tries to take it back, it was tooo late, I was devastated and hung up. He never gives me a time frame.. and makes it sound it's going to be a while. So I can't go to his house...

    Val said the expression on my face was priceless when I hung up, he should have seen it... I was so hurt... He text me twice, after I text him stating I was putting the chili on the front porch. He wanted to come over. Val and I took a bunch of kids to a spooky bridge, he came over and put some prints of paintings on my kitchen table, stating he wanted to thank me, and give me money for the chili. No I'm sorry, we will work this out... or anything.

    I can't talk to him, and I love him... His actions confuse me, is he embarrassed of me, am I not worthy to meet his son? I have been very understanding, loving and caring, never get mad. I don't know what to do now. But I can't talk to him. I want to but my mind says no.
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    #72

    Oct 31, 2008, 01:38 AM

    How was the chili? Lol Not trying to be flippant, just sounds funny being locked in the bathroom and making him chili for the cook-off day at work.

    If he was going through a divorce he may have had a few reasons for not wanting his ex to know about you until after settlement. His son is probably going through a lot at the moment too and being so young, your boyfriend is probably not wanting to put him through any more emotional upheaval than is necessary. So maybe you could be a little more patient?
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    #73

    Oct 31, 2008, 05:03 AM

    Chili is great. His divorce is over... the settlement is too. He isn't wanting him to know, thinking his dad just got out of a relationship and into another. I have been VERY patient, my point is this was a very awkward situation for me, and as much as we are together, it could have been a lot worse.
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    #74

    Oct 31, 2008, 06:45 AM
    Your mighty pushy for ONLY 5 MONTHS. His relationship with his son is his and you need to back away from that, but having said that, hiding in a bathroom because of a surprise visit is... UNACCEPTABLE, but that's just my opinion.

    Another thing is let go of this jealousy over his co-worker, that is also UNACCEPTABLE, dumb, and distracting, to make that an issue. I think either you need a lot more patients, learn some communications skills and work together to solve these issues you have without an attitude. Yes you do have one, and I suspect its you pushing for more to fast, rather than letting things progress naturally.
    Is he embarrassed of me, am I not worthy to meet his son?
    Your skipping some important steps in this, and may not see things you need to know. The most obvious is the relationships, and obligations, he already has, at home and work,
    He says he's not attracted to, because she is not good looking and heavy set.
    you need to stay out of those, and your hissy fits at the wrong time,
    After I text him stating I was putting the chili on the front porch.
    Too much drama for 5 months, which is the get to know period, and having fun doing it. Given the ink is still drying on his divorce, you should be a lot more patient so he can make adjustments to his life, which may take longer than you think.
    If I were him you wouldn't be meeting my kids for a year, but I wouldn't hide you in a bathroom either.

    Pay attention, and learn, before you get carried away, and make too much of an investment, on something so very new.

    Temper your emotions, with some rational thought, and don't let impulse guide your actions.
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    #75

    Oct 31, 2008, 07:53 AM

    Thank you...for giving me this perspective - it was hard to hear...but I already knew it. He is very possessive of me...and I never get this way...jealous. We are so very close. He always says we gel.

    I wrote him this this morning...

    YOU are so awesome to me - the way you are - old fashioned, caring, loving, intelligent, leadership qualities, and so handsome to me, even old you are so handsome... lol We gel.. You are a good man to me XXXX XXX.. the qualities I look for in a man to be with, a soul mate. It took 48 years to figure this out. There are things I've done with you, that I've never done in my life with another man, believe it or not... laughing is one of them! I love to laugh.

    BUT I am not a kicking post. Handling situations by punishing me (like saying I can't come over to your house anymore) simply is not going to work for me. I have feelings too. I couldn't talk to you the rest of the night, I wanted to, but I couldn't. It's so hard... I just couldn't. That was so very hard to hear these words from you.

    I know Simon is your #1 priority, I expect to come 2nd to Simon and only want the best for him, my kids are my #1 priority too. You are so good with my kids and I want the same relationship with Simon. Understandably, it will take Simon a while to adjust to the idea of you seeing someone.

    We don't need drama in our relationship and I'm not into this. It's just wrong. I've never put chili on anyone's front porch! Lol I couldn't see you... but I miss you. I want us to be so so happy. I am trying so hard to be patient. I understand your position I think. I am sorry about being jealous yesterday, it's so not me - it's probably what happened with Zach - that set the stage. It just makes me wonder, why you don't want me to meet him, but I trust you.

    I hope the chili is good -

    Your girl...
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    Oct 31, 2008, 08:14 AM
    Dear Clown face, (or whatever you call him.)

    We are obviously on different pages, so we both should back off, and go a lot slower, so we can learn to communicate, and work better together, to define our boundaries which at this time is unequal, and unfair.

    I have issues that make me impulsive, and jealous sometimes, and honestly your actions magnify those feelings, but I'm trying to handle them, so for now, since I can't visit you, then you should not visit me. I think it best as we need time to make things more equal, and enjoy getting comfortable with each others ways, and habits. If you agree we can talk, but if not, I understand, And wish you a good life.

    Your girl, if you want,

    P.S.
    Hope you enjoyed the chili!!
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    Oct 31, 2008, 08:32 AM

    So apparently I handled the letter all wrong, but it was basically what you said... but different. Softer.
    You know how to write, but you seem a bit harsh, yet very realistic. What is your story?
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    Oct 31, 2008, 08:46 AM

    Tals story is one no one really knows. It's a legend that pre-dates us all. I have once heard a rumor that you can go to the ancient caverns of Rome and his story is told on the walls of the room.

    *Sorry Tal, way to easy*
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    Oct 31, 2008, 09:02 AM

    Why is his communication with this ex wife such that he wasn't expecting his son to come over? Or did he just forget about that? You should not have to hide in the bathroom. And saying he's not interested in his coworker because she is fat is not particularly endearing either. And hurting you by telling you you can't come over any more. What's that about?

    I see redflags. Good to take a break.
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    Oct 31, 2008, 09:10 AM
    but you seem a bit harsh, yet very realistic.
    Not trying to be harsh, just realistic and to the point, so there can be understanding and not false signals. That probably comes from being married more than 30 years, being close to my kids, and grandkids, and the dog, and working in the field of helping people in crisis, from addictions to being jobless, and homeless, but I made my living basically being Joe the plumber, but with a license, and a degree.
    What is your story?
    You'll have to read the cave walls, to get the details.
    Thanks Rome :)

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