[speechlesstx]

She ain't the bright one.

Good grief, NK, do you ever have anything constructive to add? Did you ever stop to think that in such a "meet-and-greet-frenzy" someone pulled an infantile stunt to get that on her since she was not wearing one at the beginning? She's certainly not that stupid and it was certainly not very adult of both you and the moron that took the cheap shot.

[NeedKarma]

Good grief, NK, do you ever have anything constructive to add? Did you ever stop to think that in such a "meet-and-greet-frenzy" someone pulled an infantile stunt to get that on her since she was not wearing one at the beginning? She's certainly not that stupid and it was certainly not very adult of both you and the moron that took the cheap shot.

Let me call the wahhhhhh-bulance.

[speechlesstx]

Even more mature there, NK. And by the way, it's 'wambulance .'

[NeedKarma]

Thanks!

[tomder55]

Apparently she picked a nice scarf

Or she was working the rope line at a typically rapid pace... shaking the 5,000th hand of the day... and signing as many autographs (note the pen in her hand).Most likely someone gave it to her as a prank. She put it on without looking to see what it was.Gotta love political tricks !

[tomder55]

Barack and Michelle paid for their own clothes

With the money he made from his ghost written auto-biographies.


This whole discussion is silly in light of how much both political parties spent for their respective conventions.

[Wondergirl]

with the money he made from his ghost written auto-biographies.

Yes, clothes bought with his own money. I've written four non-fiction books that I had to research and then used my own brain to put them all together and my own nimble fingers to type. Obama's were easy, about his own life. I could do that about my own life and not need a ghost writer. What good would a ghost writer be? By the time you give him all the info, you may as well have written it yourself!

[tomder55]

But there is growing evidence that his first book ;Dreams From My Father was penned by someone other than Obama.

[Wondergirl]

But there is growing evidence that his first book ;Dreams From My Father was penned by someone other than Obama.

Such as?

[tomder55]

Jack Cashill ;author of Hoodwinked :How Intellectual Hucksters Have Hijacked American Culture
Has Been examining the subject.

Has been examining the two books and points out a lack of simularity in style between them. I have read both and it struck me also . It is strange that Obama ,who had no published work (not even from his time as editor of the Harvard Law Review) would be able to write with such quality the 1st time out.
Cashill goes on to compares Obama's writing in 'Father' with Bill Ayers 'Fugitive Days' .He does an interesting quantitative analysis in noting that "Fugitive Days" averaged 23.13 words a sentence. "Dreams" averaged 23.36 words a sentence in a QSUM "cusum analysis" .He also subjected the books to Flesch Reading Ease Score and found that both 'Dreams' and 'Fugitive Days' both scored around a 54 on reading ease and a 12th grade reading level .He also points out that both books are loaded with seafaring imagery . Obama even writes of "boundless prairie storms"[note the title of the Weathermen manifesto I pointed out on the other thred) Coincidence ? Maybe.

This is all a mute point of course because the only real proof is confession . And it's not likely that either Ayers or Obama would admit to a fraud of this magnitude.

[Wondergirl]

or she was working the rope line at a typically rapid pace....shaking the 5,000th hand of the day.... and signing as many autographs (note the pen in her hand).Most likely someone gave it to her as a prank. She put it on without looking to see what it was.Gotta love political tricks !

The donkeys are, um, rather obvious.

[speechlesstx]

The donkeys are, um, rather obvious.

I stand by my previous comments to NK. It was a childish prank and Palin is not that stupid.

[speechlesstx]

Speaking of Obama's first book, a Youtuber seems to have uncovered a 1995 interview he did which can be read and heard in its entirety here. The Senator with 143 days of Senate experience when he began his presidential run reveals what I believe to be his motivation for the job.

I worked as a community organizer in Chicago, [and] was very active in low-income neighborhoods working on issues of crime and education and employment, and seeing that in some ways certain portions of the African-American community are doing as bad, if not worse, and recognizing that my fate remained tied up with their fates. That my individual salvation is not going to come about without a collective salvation for the country.

As if some of us ever had any doubt, it's all about him. He can't attain his personal salvation until he saves the country. I got news for you Obama, I don't need or want your salvation.

Unfortunately, I think that recognition requires that we make sacrifices, and this country has not always been willing to make the sacrifices necessary to bring about a new day and a new age.

Who's that "we" he's talking about? Oh yeah, all of us. He's going to force his health care on us, force our children into universal service, force his "social" and "economic justice" on us, force his educational philosophy on us and if the Dems have their way, pry our private retirement out of our hands to help fund it.

[tomder55]

He will obtain personal salvation by leading the collective... Hmm wonder where I heard that before? Oh yeah, the Weathermen used to call their various cells "collectives" .

[excon]

He will obtain personal salvation by leading the collective.......Hmm wonder where I heard that before? Oh yeah, the Weathermen used to call their various cells "collectives" .

Hello again, righty's:

Seems to me I've heard right wingers like you yelling at people like me, "America - love it or leave it!". So, if it gets too liberal around here for you, don't let the door hit you in the a$$.

excon

[Wondergirl]

As if some of us ever had any doubt, it's all about him. He can't attain his personal salvation until he saves the country. I got news for you Obama, I don't need or want your salvation.

You can't read. You've got it backwards. If our country dies, we die. If the country is going to survive, its citizens have to be the ones who make the difference and make that survival happen.

Who's that "we" he's talking about? Oh yeah, all of us.

Yes, exactly. Even you have to help.

[speechlesstx]

You can't read. You've got it backwards. If our country dies, we die. If the country is going to survive, its citizens have to be the ones who make the difference and make that survival happen.

All right Wondergirl, I've played along with you but what kind of BS remark is that? What is it about seemingly decent people that when they enter a discussion with a conservative they can't help but throw out insults? I can't read?? I've got it backwards?? I know perfectly well what Obama said, I suggest YOU read it again.

Yes, exactly. Even you have to help.

Insult number 2, "even you" have to help?? As if I make no contributions to this world? Kiss my you know what, I'm not going to take that kind of crap from you people any more.

[Wondergirl]

I suggest YOU read it again.

I have read it several times, and did again just for you. I stick with my previous comment, that we are all in this together and will sink or swim depending.

Insult number 2, "even you" have to help?? As if I make no contributions to this world? Kiss my you know what, I'm not going to take that kind of crap from you people any more.

I apologize. I should have not personalized it, and instead should have made it generic. As I said, we are all in this together and have to work together so we end up swimming instead of sinking. And I am not a "you people." I am a Christian and a Republican.

[tickle]

Its too bad you had to make a statement like that in the firs place, wondergirl, and then apologize for it. Nothing good ever comes from these political posts, especially this one from an inane subject like Palins wardrobe expense.

[speechlesstx]

I have read it several times, and did again just for you. I stick with my previous comment, that we are all in this together and will sink or swim depending.

And that can have so many meanings.

I apologize. I should have not personalized it, and instead should have made it generic. As I said, we are all in this together and have to work together so we end up swimming instead of sinking. And I am not a "you people." I am a Christian and a Republican.

Let's see, didn't you say Obama was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and "he hasn't disappointed?" For Christians to claim we have to work together and then turn around and insult your fellow travelers sure disappoints me, I think it's a funny way to get people to come together.

Was it generic or personal when Obama spoke in Philadelphia of continuing "a march for a more just, more equal, more free, more caring" and then derided Americans in San Francisco with "they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them?"

Was it generic or personal when John Murtha called his own constituents first "racist" and then "redneck?"

Was it generic or personal when Alcee Hastings said of Sarah Palin “Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks."

Was it generic or personal when Whoopee Goldberg asked McCain if she needed to worry about slavery again?

Was it generic or personal when Sandra Bernhard threatened Sarah Palin with "gang rape" and called her "uncle woman?"

Was it generic or personal when Charlie Rangel called her "disabled?"

Was it generic or personal when Madonna equated McCain with Hitler and Mugabe?