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    Oct 23, 2008, 10:02 AM

    The difference of course is that they actually paid for the clothing .

    Hillary Designer: Palin Spending Strange, Designers Vie to Dress Political Candidates - CBS News

    Democrats get their clothing for free because the designer wants the promo.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 10:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Democrats get their clothing for free because the designer wants the promo.
    Sounds like a good move. Why can't Sarah do such a thing?
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    Oct 23, 2008, 10:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Is he running for VP on a platform of eliminating wasteful spending?
    No, he's probably still running for a world "more moral." After all the complaints here about discussing trivial things when there are real issues to discuss, I'd think you'd be more concerned about things besides pantsuits and makeup.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 10:22 AM
    We need to know her characters and values. Who is the real Sarah Palin? This is a question that needs to be explored before an awful mistake is made at the polls.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 10:32 AM

    Why can't Sarah do such a thing?
    My guess is that she needed the outfits immediately after McCain selected her; and she had to fly down from Alaska with her family to be at the introduction rally . RNC records show they began this as soon as she was announced .
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    Oct 23, 2008, 11:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    My guess is that she needed the outfits immediately after McCain selected her; and she had to fly down from Alaska with her family to be at the introduction rally . RNC records show they began this as soon as she was announced .
    But wait a second. Aren't these expenditures part and parcel of the excess of our political system that everyone is complaining about here? I don't know how any "fiscal conservative" could defend it. Couldn't that campaign money have been spent for something else... like more robocalls from Giuliani saying that Obama wants to let criminals walk free and that Obama is for teaching sex education to kindergartners? Geesh, guys... use those dollars wisely!

    I have respect for the ideals that many espouse here in terms of how they envision the world. But the leaders you are electing don't share your ideals... They aren't fiscally conservative (as the last eight years can attest), they pander to the Christian vote even though they glorify wealth and Jesus wasn't too fond of the wealthy. I'm not sure how people here reconcile voting for someone who "should" be representing their ideals, but fall so dismally short.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 11:17 AM

    What are you talking about ? The RNC is a private organization . It is not tax payer funded .

    have respect for the ideals that many espouse here in terms of how they envision the world. But the leaders you are electing don't share your ideals... They aren't fiscally conservative (as the last eight years can attest)
    That is a fair point. I support McCain because he has attempted to fight government corruption and he is heads and shoulders above the Alinsky Marxist he is running against .But he was nowhere's close to my first choice.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 11:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    making an issue about the DNC providing her with some clothing that will be donated after the campaign to charity is making a cheap shot.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 11:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I support McCain because he has attempted to fight government corruption and he is heads and shoulders above the Alinsky Marxist he is running against .But he was nowhere's close to my first choice.
    I have started a whole new thread... just for you. :)
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    Oct 23, 2008, 03:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    I have stepped back a bit of finding fault with Palin. I dont know what the circumstances were really of her being selected by McCain; I dont know if she came looking for the job, or what. I feel she will actually live to regret some of the bad speeches, misinformation, etc.

    I actually hope she doesnt become you next VP, but I do hope she will be able to go back to her old lifestyle in Alaska.
    Good point. I agree. Palin blundered by accepting to hitch her wagon to John McCain. She's being abused and transformed into everything she claimed she was against as a non-insider. We all knew that would happen. I hope she's able to soon get back to her family life and governing roots in Alaska where she belongs.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 04:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Democrats get their clothing for free because the designer wants the promo.
    Barack and Michelle paid for their own clothes.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 04:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Barack and Michelle paid for their own clothes.
    So they're rich. I doubt Gov. Palin has those financial resources.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 04:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Add:

    "Uncle Woman" -Sandra Bernhard
    "Disabled" -Charlie Rangel
    "harriet miers with a better a$$" -Rosie O'Donnell

    And this.
    I realize that you are pointing out the slanders against Gov. Palin, but it gives me an opportunity to say something.

    There is no way we can get the information to prove it, but I'll bet Palin's IQ is higher than at least 75% of the elected officials and bureaucrats in Washington.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 04:37 PM

    If she had had the clothes to start with, which she apparently didn't, so they had to cloth her appropriately. It had to be done some way if she couldn't afford it herself.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 04:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    We need to know her characters and values. Who is the real Sarah Palin? This is a question that needs to be explored before an awful mistake is made at the polls.
    Your post here is dead on! Only insert Obama here. Who is Barack Obama?
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    Oct 23, 2008, 04:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Galveston1 View Post
    So they're rich. I doubt Gov. Palin has those financial resources.
    He wrote and sold two books. Palin hasn't. She spends her money on ammo to kill moosies, bears, and wolves.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 04:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Galveston1 View Post
    There is no way we can get the information to prove it, but I'll bet Palin's IQ is higher than at least 75% of the elected officials and bureaucrats in Washington.
    Which of the seven categories of IQ do you pick:

    Number Intelligence, Word Fluency, Verbal Meaning, Memory, Reasoning, Spatial Perception and Perceptual Speed

    Hmmm, there are several she's not high in.
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    Oct 23, 2008, 04:45 PM
    You really think she has a high IQ, she may well have (in something). Some opinions are that she has an excellent memory. John Cleese mentioned that hasn't anyone noticed that she sounds like she has memorized everything she says.

    I will say though, that she is certainly rough around the edges.

    I have nothing against the lady. You have to give her a big A for effort. She certainly gave everything, it appears, her best shot. She probably worked this hard to politic herself into the governorship of Alaska.
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    Oct 24, 2008, 01:06 PM
    I think tom first mentioned this:

    CBS News has confirmed that the Republican National Committee spent up to $150,000 on what appears to be wardrobe and makeup spending at high end department stores for the GOP Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin.

    But one of the most famous political fashion designers of the year, Susanna Chung Forest, who designed Hillary Clinton’s pantsuits says it would be unusual for a candidate as famous as Sarah Palin to need to buy clothes.

    “Why do you need to pay for it?” Forest told CBS News from her boutique Susanna Beverly Hills saying that most designers would offer to clothe a candidate for free. “It’s an honor, you are going to design for someone who could be the president of the United States,” noting that the exposure any designer would get from dressing someone as famous as Clinton or Palin would be worth much more.

    The Los Angeles Times reported earlier this year that Senator Clinton’s custom made pantsuits from Forest were worth about $6,350 a piece retail. Clinton’s spokespeople did not respond to requests for comment.
    Yes, now would probably be a good time to have no comment Sen. Clinton.
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    #40

    Oct 24, 2008, 01:14 PM
    Apparently she picked a nice scarf:
    Stumper : Palin Donkey Scarf Origins (Sort of) Explained by Photographer



    She ain't the bright one.

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