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magprob · Oct 12, 2008, 07:28 PM

A clone? Well... then I guess this is worse than I first suspected. You know, the fallen angels were cloning humans and animals according to Genisis. That could have something to do with his purple lips. Why couldn't you clone a purple lipped thing-a-majiggy.

twinkiedooter · Oct 12, 2008, 07:34 PM

You said: Barack Obama has already done so, and to the satisfaction of John McCain.

WRONG.

If he DID satisfy the government, then why would Mr. Berg be wasting his time filing a lawsuit regarding the fact that Obama has NOT released these documents?

John McCain has nothing to do with what the government requires nor does he have any say so in this regard.

Do yourself a favor (and us here as well) go back and watch a few hundred more hours of the Sopranos. Your mama is out of gobago, go to the store.

BABRAM · Oct 12, 2008, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

You cannot have dual citizenship and run for President of the United States.

Hey dooter, Obama wasn't running for president when he was ten years old. ;)

BABRAM · Oct 12, 2008, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

Here's some purple lip photos of the man for starters. His coloration is more like someone from either Malaysia or Indonesia.

I have to admit you're a hoot. I see people all the time, in good old America, with the same lip coloration.

BABRAM · Oct 12, 2008, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

This is in the case of Berg vs. Obama in Federal Court. Obama has continually filed Motions to Dismiss the lawsuit and stonewall any disclosure of the documents requested. If he would produce the documents the suit would end then and there. No, he can't produce these documents so he has his attorneys stall for time (a time honored practice among defense attorneys when their client cannot produce documents, etc). Why would he NOT produce these documents if he was truly on the up and up? Answer me that Babram? You can't.

Huh? I'll let you know when I can't answer, and judging by your questions/statements that won't be any time soon. Most individuals in the US that have the financial backing can produce a court case. That's why if you go to Berg's sight you'll see that he's begging for support. Berg is a gimmick lawyer that pulls these stunts for attention and seeks these 15 minutes of fame moments. He tried it with Dubya and Cheney, and now he's attempting this with Obama. Whoop-tee-do!

Allegations against Obama easily discredited

"Mr. Phillip Berg, the attorney quoted by Mr. Hansen, is well known in Pennsylvania. Previous lawsuits filed by him include one against President Bush and Vice President Cheney, claiming they knew beforehand of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and one against three U.S. Supreme Court justices to disbar themselves for deciding Bush won the 2000 presidential election against Al Gore.

His current lawsuit against Barack Obama has about as much merit.

According to the Immigration and Nationality Act, Title III, SEC. 305.(8 U.S.C. 1405), “A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth.” As to whether or not Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, one need only go to FactCheck.org to view a copy of his birth certificate. It indicates Obama was born at 7:24 p.m., Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu (which was/is in Hawaii).

So much for the claim “Mr. Obama's mother went to Kenya late in her pregnancy and ended up giving birth there.”

More information about attorney Berg and his spurious lawsuits, etc., can be found at Urban Legends Reference Pages, FactCheck.org, TruthOrFiction.com-Is that forwarded email Truth or Fiction? Research into stories, scams, hoaxes, myths, and urban legends on the Internet, and phillyBurbs.com, to name just a few sources."

NeedKarma · Oct 13, 2008, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by classyT

Speech,

NK took his marbles and went home...he was losing your lively discussion. hee hee

Actually I have been flying around visiting family in two different cities - big Thanksgiving get-together. I don't live my life online, I like to be with 'real people'. You seem like a nasty person in real life, someone who would talk behind someone's back.

tomder55 · Oct 13, 2008, 05:44 AM

Twinkie the charges related to his birth or heritage are not substansive ;a canard ;and dilutes the many real reasons there are to oppose Obama .

classyT · Oct 13, 2008, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Actually I have been flying around visiting family in two different cities - big Thanksgiving get-together. I don't live my life online, I like to be with 'real people'. You seem like a nasty person in real life, someone who would talk behind someone's back.

You know NK... I was being silly and incidentally when you put something on the internet for everyone's eyes to see... it ain't exactly talking behind ones back. Duh I was teasing you. Something you just can't grasp. You get mean and personal... deal with it dude. I have my own opinion of what you are like in REAL life as well... :D

NeedKarma · Oct 13, 2008, 07:41 AM

That's your standard answer isn't it? "I was bring silly" or "I was teasing you". That's called passive-aggressive behaviour.

classyT · Oct 13, 2008, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

That's your standard answer isn't it? "I was bring silly" or "I was teasing you". That's called passive-aggressive behaviour.

Oh good grief NK... hows about this... I apologize! I want everyone that read it to understand I really do not think that NK couldn't handle the conversation, took his marbles and left. OK?

P.S. no one could accuse you of having any marbles to begin with ( no pun intended... promise) :D

startover22 · Oct 13, 2008, 08:01 AM

I think Obama is going to win...
I honestly would like to see a re-do...
Mag, not with Willie Nelson, but close;)
Just stay on track people and others will be able to enjoy reading the info from this post;)
NK, I hope you had a nice weekend.

classyT · Oct 13, 2008, 08:20 AM

Startover,

I agree with you. I thought it might be a close race but now I don't even think that... I think he is going to win BIG. McCain needs a miracle...

ETWolverine · Oct 13, 2008, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by spitvenom

I am a risk taker, I never go with the flow, and I like to be the first person to try new things out.

If the C Dr has a proven track record that says to me his Idea's are stale and he is set in his way's and he is right and I am wrong.

A smart young Dr will be willing to take risk's, try new things out, and Will be open to suggestions and not do what has always been done.

Spitvenom,

You would really allow an untried heart surgeon with no track record so surgery on you instead of a surgeon who has a proven history of success because the new guy has new ideas about heart surgery? What if his new ideas are just plain wrong and criminally negligent and if he uses them to operate on you he'll kill you? Would you still choose him? Because Obama's ideas on foreign affairs and dealing with terrorism are criminally negligent, his ideas on taxes during a recession are criminally negligent, and if we elect him he's going to kill the USA, economically and in terms of security. The fact that they are NEW ideas doesn't make them GOOD ideas or SAFE ideas.

And in fact, in Obama's case we have historical proof that his policies are downright dangerous. You need only look back to Carter to see what Obama's foreign policies would do to us. And as for his economic policies, you need look only at Herbert Hoover and the Great Depression to see what will happen if his policies are implemented. Hoover's tax policies, which match Obama's, dragged the Great Depression out for 10 years longer than it needed to be. The proof of the dangers of Obama's policies are there. His ideas may be different, but they aren't really "new", and they certainly aren't good.

Elliot

kanicky73 · Oct 13, 2008, 10:12 AM

Ok here are my thoughts... as much as I would love to see an african american president, as I think that would finally show that we are past this racism thing, I can't help but get hung up on his name. His full name is Barrack Hussein Obama. Correct me if Im wrong but didn't someone named Hussein play a part in the worst possible terrorist attack that this country has ever seen? EVER! I know its just a name but let us think for a minute how much thought goes into our parents naming us. Or even us naming our children. I know that his mother is white and I believe was born in the US but don't you think that his entire name came from somewhere? His father is African American and I am sure played a part in the naming of his son. His mothers name was Ann Dunham. So who in her family was named Barrack, or Hussein? Who in his family was named that? I want to know where the names come from. I am willing to bet that it goes back to the middle east somewhere. That is why I will not be voting for Barrack Hussein Obama. Had his name been James Brown, maybe. I know it seems trivial but I can't help it. Also we see these commercials saying that we don't need 4 years of the same. Just because John McCain is a republican as is George Bush, doesn't mean he has the same ideas as George Bush.

kanicky73 · Oct 13, 2008, 10:27 AM

I would also like to point out a comment made on one of Barrack Obama's commercials that really makes me think that he is insulting peoples intelligence! His commercial makes referance to McCains plan for health care stating that the tax break we would receive would go directly to the insurance company. If you actually go to McCain's website and read his proposed plan It explains that the money we would receive could be used to pay our health care premiums and any money left over we could deposit in our HRA. That makes a whole lot of sense. What I meant by him insulting our intelligence is that does he not realize that we can go right to McCain's website and read it for ouselves?? And after doing so, makes him look like a liar and a mud slinger!!

BABRAM · Oct 13, 2008, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by kanicky73

Ok here are my thoughts..... as much as I would love to see an african american president, as I think that would finally show that we are past this racism thing, I can't help but get hung up on his name. His full name is Barrack Hussein Obama. Correct me if Im wrong but didnt someone named Hussein play a part in the worst possible terrorist attack that this country has ever seen? EVER!! I know its just a name but let us think for a minute how much thought goes into our parents naming us.

OK. Several corrections to be made here.

1. The culprit terrorist responsible for 9/11 is named "Osama Bin Laden."

2. The name "Hussein" is more popular in other countries than the United States. In other countries it's almost as popular as the given name "John," and "Smith" as a surname, in the US.

3. Forty-seven years ago, Barack was born to a mother that had no idea that Saddam Hussein would had turned out to be a dictator.

Vote on the issues folks.

kanicky73 · Oct 13, 2008, 02:48 PM

Please remember that I did not say anything that I was saying was factual. I said that I can't help but feel that way. That is what my heart feels and that is what the original poster asked us to do. I was simply posting my own personal thoughts. Of course his mother couldn't have known that, again right wrong or indifferent that is how I feel. And in the wonderful nation that we live in, I have the right to feel that way if I so please.

kanicky73 · Oct 13, 2008, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by BABRAM

OK. Several corrections to be made here.

1. The culprit terrorist responsible for 9/11 is named "Osama Bin Laden."

2. The name "Hussein" is more popular in other countries than the United States. In other countries it's almost as popular as the given name "John," and "Smith" as a surname.

3. Forty-seven years ago, Barack was born to a mother that had no idea that Saddam Hussein would had turned out to be a dictator.

Vote on the issues folks.

Please remember that as americans we can vote on whatever reason we deem suitable. I am intelligent enough to research the issues but regardless, we can vote for whatever reason we see fit. It is our right, and if I don't feel comfortable voting for him because of his name etc, that is my right.

Blastoff · Oct 13, 2008, 03:05 PM

New polls came out today indicating that Obama has regained a double-digit lead in the Gallup, that he's taken a solid lead in Missouri and that he's even taken a small lead in North Dakota (which went for Bush by over 20 percentage points in the last election.)

With three weeks to go, the McCain/Palin ticket is fighting just to hold onto GOP stronghold states. It seems like they no sooner get one leak temporarily plugged than they spout two or three more.

BABRAM · Oct 13, 2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by kanicky73

Please remember that as americans we can vote on whatever reason we deem suitable. I am intelligent enough to research the issues but regardless, we can vote for whatever reason we see fit. It is our right, and if I dont feel comfortable voting for him because of his name etc, that is my right.

Somebody questioned your right to vote?? I'm sure George Washington and his men didn't feel like crossing the Delaware on a cold blistery night, but thankfully he led on anyway. You asked to be corrected if you were wrong. I did so.