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    Oct 9, 2008, 03:26 PM
    Signs glued to windshield
    I was told to use this parking field and I was not illegally parked, it was a tremendous lot, no markings but employees park in rows. I was not blocking anybody and there was no signs indicating "No Parking". I came from the job I was working, a sign on my dashboard indicating why I was there and I found these two sheets of paper glued to my drivers window and the windshield. I had no way of removing the glue as well as the sign.

    Is it legal to glue a sign on the windshield (drivers side) of the car? I was in Queens, NY.
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    Oct 9, 2008, 03:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Ponytail View Post
    I was told to use this parking field and I was not illegally parked, it was a tremendous lot, no markings but employees park in rows. I was not blocking anybody and there was no signs indicating "No Parking". I came from the job I was working, a sign on my dashboard indicating why I was there and I found these two sheets of paper glued to my drivers window and the windshield. I had no way of removing the glue as well as the sign.

    Is it legal to glue a sign on the windshield (drivers side) of the car? I was in Queens, NY.

    I don't think it's legal if it's permanent. Your version of permanent may not be someone else's version of permanent.

    Who glued the signs to your car and who told you to park there? Determining damages will be tricky but I think you're talking more about Small Claims to replace your windshield than getting someone arrested for defacing your car.
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    Oct 9, 2008, 03:51 PM

    What type of paper, who put it there, police, parking lot people, what did the papers say ?

    And sorry, can't remove some glue residue from glass,?
    Have you used a razor blade ?
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    Oct 9, 2008, 03:52 PM
    I was working a blood drive for the LIRR in Hollis. This is a lot where we are told to park as well as the trainees and employees.

    The sign was glued on there by a 'supervisor M/W Sanitation". Who this is I have no clue, but I believe it's a lot that is shared by many. I took pictures of the signs and I was fortunate that some nice men had window cleaner and a scraper and helped to remove most of the sign so I could drive home. However, there was glue on the windshield that certainly impaired my vision. As for the side window.. when I got home I removed the sign (took and hour) but the glue has left a film on the window.
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    Oct 9, 2008, 03:54 PM

    This was heavily glued on. I also have a convertible and some of it splashed up on the rag top (new car btw)
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    Oct 9, 2008, 04:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Ponytail View Post
    this was heavily glued on. I also have a convertible and some of it splashed up on the rag top (new car btw)


    Then your choices are Small Claims Court or a superior Court if the damage is higher than that. Keep in mind that there is a VERY short Statute when the Government is involved. They must receive your Notice of Claim within 90 days of the incident.

    You, of course, will need witnesses - the person who told you where to park and the people who removed the signs as well as estimates for the damage.
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    Oct 10, 2008, 10:16 AM
    Well, I can forget all that then. These guys saw me upset and crying while trying to peel off the mess and did the Sir Gallahad thing, for which I am grateful. I never got their names and it was reported to our account manager and the chairman for one of their blood drives.

    My point in question was.. Is It Legal to do that to the windshield? Never mind all the technicalities. Somebody told me it was illegal because it can impair the driving, which, in fact, it did.
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    Oct 10, 2008, 11:01 AM
    I can't find the law, but I had a similar issue a while back. I do believe that it is illegal in NYS to put any notice where it would block the driver's view and prevent them from driving.

    In my case, I lived on a street with parking on only one side (my side). My house was one of the few that had a driveway. So people would block my driveway when they couldn't find a parking space. When my wife was pregnant I was so concerned that someone would block me in when she went into labor that I was considering such notices. I remember researching it at that time.
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    Oct 10, 2008, 11:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Ponytail View Post
    well, I can forget all that then. These guys saw me upset and crying while trying to peel off the mess and did the Sir Gallahad thing, for which I am grateful. I never got their names and it was reported to our account manager and the chairman for one of their blood drives.

    My point in question was.. Is It Legal to do that to the windshield? Never mind all the technicalities. Somebody told me it was illegal because it can impair the driving, which, in fact, it did.


    I addressed that right off the bat: "I don't think it's legal if it's permanent. Your version of permanent may not be someone else's version of permanent." This time I'll be more definite - If it's permanent - and you now have posted that it appears to be so - no, no one can deliberately impair your ability to see through your windshield. That's why it's illegal to drive with cracks in the windshield.

    My question would be - now that you know it's illegal, now what?
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    Oct 10, 2008, 11:03 AM
    Thank you Scott for your affirmation. I'm going to research it.. then, it doesn't matter who what when where and why.. bottom line, if it is illegal, it is illegal and I will pursue that.
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    Oct 10, 2008, 11:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    I addressed that right off the bat: "I don't think it's legal if it's permanent. Your version of permanent may not be someone else's version of permanent." This time I'll be more definite - If it's permanent - and you now have posted that it appears to be so - no, no one can deliberately impair your ability to see through your windshield. That's why it's illegal to drive with cracks in the windshield.

    My question would be - now that you know it's illegal, now what?
    I didn't understand your "permanent". I did eventually remove it but if you were implying if it were removable right then and there.. NO and indeed it was permanent.

    Thanks... simple failing of text.
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    Oct 10, 2008, 11:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Ponytail View Post
    I didnt understand your "permanent". I did eventually remove it but if you were implying if it were removable right then and there.. NO and indeed it was permanant.

    Thanks... simple failing of text.


    If you were able to remove it - glue, residue, the sign - then it is not permanent. If some of the residue remains to the extent that your vision is affected, then it is illegal to drive the car.

    When I said permanent I meant "forever."
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    Oct 10, 2008, 12:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Ponytail View Post
    I was told to use this parking field and I was not illegally parked, it was a tremendous lot, no markings but employees park in rows. I was not blocking anybody and there was no signs indicating "No Parking". I came from the job I was working, a sign on my dashboard indicating why I was there and I found these two sheets of paper glued to my drivers window and the windshield. I had no way of removing the glue as well as the sign.

    Is it legal to glue a sign on the windshield (drivers side) of the car? I was in Queens, NY.
    As is my curious nature, I have to ask: what exactly do you think will come out of pursuing this? I've never seen any type of material that I couldn't get off glass, glue or not. Also, you've already pointed out that you don't have any witnesses to this and I don't suppose the papers held up too well when you scraped them off, so it's going to be hearsay when it comes to proving who put the papers on your car in the first place.

    So if you end up getting the glue off and the convertible top isn't damaged, what exactly is left to "pursue?"
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    Oct 10, 2008, 10:58 PM
    It's a matter of dealing with my employer and assuring that we are provided parking since we are using our personal cars to go to places, sometimes in the most obscure. My employer generally doesn't give a rats about us, but finding out the consequences of me paying for THEIR total lack of INCONSIDERATATION, (since they do want to be considered 'employer of choice'), it won't happed to other fellow employees. I am going to use this to my advantage and request that I NEVER be sent there again, which is quite okay with me. However, if in fact there had been damage to my car, I would have held whomever owns that property responsible. As for heresay, not true, my coworker was witness to this and if I need to, which I do intend to do so, I am going to find out exactly who was responsible for this. As for heresay, we are given DIRECTION to park there by the LIRR security guards. There aren't any 'No Parking' signs anywhere to be seen. My boss drove by and saw what was done to my car. The other car right next to me didn't have that happen to them.

    It did state who was responsible for putting it on my car, therefore I will hold them accountable. I am sure, the LIRR office will frown upon their doing that, as we were guests there, performing a community service and the sign on my dashboard indicated that.

    Perhaps they might find, what goes around, comes around - or a family member might need blood someday and there won't be any available for them. The blood supply is always low. I do truly believe in good karma and bad.
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    Oct 10, 2008, 11:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    what type of paper, who put it there, police, parking lot people, what did the papers say ?

    And sorry, can't remove some glue residue from glass, ???
    have you used a razor blade ?
    I don't make it a practice of carrying razor blades and solvent to remove glue from my winshield in my car. LOL

    Of course, being the victim, I would probably be arrested if I did. Inflammable substance and accused of being a terrorist if I had a 'concealed weapeon' such as a razor blade.

    Nice try but I think that's a bit far fetched. LOL
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    Oct 10, 2008, 11:08 PM
    Correction: Flammable substance.
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    Oct 11, 2008, 06:42 AM
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    Ponytail disagrees: she didnt state herself clearly initially.."[/QUOTE]



    Revenge reddie - OP didn't understand the meaning of the word "permanent" and stated: "I did eventually remove it but if you were implying if it were removable right then and there.. NO and indeed it was permanant."

    Apparently OP cannot tell the difference between permanent and temporary (or the difference between flammable and inflammable, for that matter).

    At any rate - revenge reddie for old history.
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    Oct 11, 2008, 06:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Ponytail View Post
    Its a matter of dealing with my employer and assuring that we are provided parking since we are using our personal cars to go to places, sometimes in the most obscure. My employer generally doesnt give a rats about us, but finding out the consequences of me paying for THEIR total lack of INCONSIDERATATION, (since they do want to be considered 'employer of choice'), it won't happed to other fellow employees. I am going to use this to my advantage and request that I NEVER be sent there again, which is quite okay with me. However, if in fact there had been damage to my car, I would have held whomever owns that property responsible. As for heresay, not true, my coworker was witness to this and if I need to, which I do intend to do so, I am going to find out exactly who was responsible for this. As for heresay, we are given DIRECTION to park there by the LIRR security guards. There aren't any 'No Parking' signs anywhere to be seen. My boss drove by and saw what was done to my car. The other car right next to me didnt have that happen to them.

    It did state who was responsible for putting it on my car, therefore I will hold them accountable. I am sure, the LIRR office will frown upon thier doing that, as we were guests there, performing a community service and the sign on my dashboard indicated that.

    Perhaps they might find, what goes around, comes around - or a family member might need blood someday and there won't be any available for them. The blood supply is always low. I do truly believe in good karma and bad.


    I still don't understand what you are going "to do" and how you are going "to do it" to the person or people responsible.
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    Oct 11, 2008, 07:06 AM

    Thread closed, OP has not responded to some simple questions, and seems to only want to attack those trying to be of help.

    I for one never did find out what the notice said, was it advertising a new eating place or a warning about parking there. Was it done to other cars to, or just this car, and so on.

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