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NeedKarma · Jul 24, 2008, 04:48 AM

You guys just got screwed!

Check the housing bill video on the right on Ron Paul's site: Congressman Ron Paul

Unlimited printed money to bail out Freddie and Fannie, Raise the National debt by $800,000,000,000. Finger printing of all MORTGAGE brokers, and now ALL credit card purchases reported to the IRS! All in one VOTE... IT PASSED!

George_1950 · Jul 24, 2008, 04:57 AM

The wheels of Democrat/fascism just keep a rolling.

N0help4u · Jul 24, 2008, 05:01 AM

Yeah that is why my $40.00 EU money and my $5.00 Canadian money has worth more than my the American money that I have. Our $$$'s have been worth less ever since this began and they have been printing way more money than they are suppose to.

NeedKarma · Jul 24, 2008, 05:03 AM

Why the hell did you guys not support Ron Paul? He seems to be the voice of reason.

N0help4u · Jul 24, 2008, 05:14 AM

Because everybody says that a third party will never get enough votes because the majority of the people will always vote Dem or Rep
So it would end up something like this

(Example)Way it is not going third party
54% of all votes
40% of all votes
R Paul 06%

But if everybody felt that a third party REALLY had any chance it would be more like
43% of all votes
31% of all votes
R Paul 26% of all votes

and so people are more afraid THEIR party would be the one that might lose the more votes to the third party giving their party less of a chance to win.

Americans tend to be creatures of habits to a point that is not good!

NeedKarma · Jul 24, 2008, 05:17 AM

But he was running as a republican not a third party.

N0help4u · Jul 24, 2008, 05:21 AM

People still see him as the third party and he will not shake that
Because American's are creatures of habit that go with 1st impression and
It is like the saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
McCain is the main Rep candidate and nobody believes there is a chance that R Paul would
Ever really get a fair chance.

NeedKarma · Jul 24, 2008, 05:27 AM

Geez, you're losing your privacy and your dollar's power... and no one seems to care.

BABRAM · Jul 24, 2008, 05:29 AM

Like dogs, they'd rather keep licking up their own vomit. Dumb sheep that are following the corporate magnets. Mushrooms in the dark that are fed BS... and they like it. It's the American way. I did support Ron Paul until he didn't receive the nomination. I'm one of the very few on this site that's registered as an Independent.

N0help4u · Jul 24, 2008, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by BABRAM

Mushrooms in the dark that are fed BS...and they like it. It's the American way. I did support Ron Paul until he didn't receive the nomination.

Exactly what I'm talkin' about!
I would vote for R Paul or anybody else but I don't even feel like it is even worth voting!

Obama is in no matter how much he gets things wrong.
I will be totally surprised if he isn't the next Pres

tomder55 · Jul 24, 2008, 05:59 AM

We need to encouarge our Senators to join in filibustering this bill .

This is a bill to protect the banks from the effects of Sen. Shumer opening his big fat mouth and causing a run on the banks.

Jamie Gorelick screws up anything she is involved in.
Franklin Delano Raines, Gorelick, and a slew of other Clintonitoids made a fortune looting Fannie and Freddie, and now the taxpayers are going to bail them out so a new bunch of DNC cronies can earn their fortunes.

[based on George's correction relevant section deleted ]

George_1950 · Jul 24, 2008, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

In the 1980s 250 S&L's went bust without bailouts and we survived.

Say what? "The savings and loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s (commonly referred to as the S&L crisis) was the failure of 747 savings and loan associations (S&Ls) in the United States. The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around USD$160.1 billion, about $124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the U.S. government -- that is, the U.S. taxpayer, either directly or through charges on their savings and loan accounts-- [1], which contributed to the large budget deficits of the early 1990s. The resulting taxpayer bailout ended up being even larger than it would have been because moral hazard and adverse-selection incentives compounded the system’s losses. [2]"
Savings and loan crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Democrats were running the Congress at this time; yes, there is a group of liberal Republicans as well, always drinking from the public trough. The costs associated with the bailout caused deficits for Bush I, which was ammo used by Clinton and Perot to demoralize rank and file voters, and, along with breaking the 'no tax increase' pledge, caused the loss of the White House in 1992 from Bush to Clinton.

George_1950 · Jul 24, 2008, 08:38 AM

Want to see some ammo that Ron Paul (and right-thinking Americans) can use? See: Savings and Loan Bailouts

George_1950 · Jul 24, 2008, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

Exactly what I'm talkin' about!
I would vote for R Paul or anybody else but I don't even feel like it is even worth voting!

Obama is in no matter how much he gets things wrong.
I will be totally surprised if he isn't the next Pres

Go back and review election returns and you will see that Clinton never received 50% of the popular vote. The last two elections were equally close. The point is that the U.S. electorate is very evenly split. This is why I posted Hillary would not win the general election, and Obama's chances are even smaller, to the extent that his outlook and philosophy are made known. He, like Jimmy Carter, is a stealth candidate. Even if he is successful this year, he is destined to one term. The buck must stop, somewhere.

spitvenom · Jul 24, 2008, 01:10 PM

Speaking of the Dollar not being worth SH*T this might not mean anything to anyone on this site but The NBA just lost a young star named Josh Childress he didn't die and he didn't retire. He was a restricted free agent who could try to get a better deal from another NBA team but the team he is on now could match it and he would have to stay with them.

Well A team did make him an offer and he signed it and the team he was originally with couldn't do anything to stop him and the reason is The team is in GREECE. They asked Josh why did he sign with a team in Greece and he said simply the Euro is worth more then the dollar.

This is unheard of. Sure some Americans play over in Europe but that's only cause they couldn't get in the NBA. But now a star an American Star left the NBA for Europe. To me that is scary.

George_1950 · Jul 24, 2008, 01:22 PM

The entire NBA can go to Europe for all I care. Would never miss it.

spitvenom · Jul 24, 2008, 01:50 PM

George Regardless if you like watching the NBA or not it speaks volumes of how Sh*tty the dollar really is. Besides George I really didn't think someone with a drawing of Hitler under his name likes to watch the NBA.

tomder55 · Jul 24, 2008, 03:41 PM

He can join that Serb Miladin Kovacevic

Galveston1 · Jul 24, 2008, 04:08 PM

Those of you telling us how stupid we are for getting the short end of the bail outs seem to be forgetting that the Democratic led Congress now has a 9% approval rating. That's a lot worse than President Bush's. I live in Texas, and we have 2 conservative senators, and my district has a young, smart conservative representative. If the Northeast part of the country would wise up, we would be a lot better off.

George_1950 · Jul 24, 2008, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Galveston1

Those of you telling us how stupid we are for getting the short end of the bail outs seem to be forgetting that the Democratic led Congress now has a 9% approval rating. That's a lot worse than President Bush's. I live in Texas, and we have 2 conservative senators, and my district has a young, smart conservative representative. If the Northeast part of the country would wise up, we would be a lot better off.

The Northeast part of the party needs to go to Greece and they can take George W. with them. He's a decent guy, but I'm ready for someone with principles.