Ask Experts Questions for FREE Help !
Ask
    dumbguy83's Avatar
    dumbguy83 Posts: 10, Reputation: 0
    New Member
     
    #1

    Jul 21, 2008, 06:53 PM
    Theft under 5000 for second time
    Hi everyone, I was recently caught stealling an item that costs $40. Securty called the cops and the officer gave me a ticket that said I had to go to get figerprinted and to court. I was caught around 8 months before that for stealling an item that was about $60. The cops were called but they just took down my info and let me go. But the securty guard told me I would receive a letter from the store to go to court and either fight the charge or pay for it and I still have not received that letter.
    I was wondering why I got the ticket for fingerprint and court appearance the second time but not the first. Also would I need to get a lawyer. I have never been arrested or in trouble with the law prior to these to cases. Any answere would be appreciated.
    Alty's Avatar
    Alty Posts: 28,317, Reputation: 5972
    Pets Expert
     
    #2

    Jul 21, 2008, 06:58 PM
    Well, I'm a bit mad. I hope you do have to go to court. You've done this twice, so obviously you aren't learning a lesson, so hopefully the courts will decide that it's time you did.

    As for getting a lawyer, I would if I where you, but then again, I'm not you and wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.

    There are others on this site that can offer you some good legal advice, so wait around, hopefully they can help you.

    Good luck.
    dumbguy83's Avatar
    dumbguy83 Posts: 10, Reputation: 0
    New Member
     
    #3

    Jul 21, 2008, 06:59 PM
    Theft under 5000 for second time
    Hi everyone, I was recently caught stealling an item that costs $40. Securty called the cops and the officer gave me a ticket that said I had to go to get figerprinted and to court. I was caught around 8 months before that for stealling an item that was about $60. The cops were called but they just took down my info and let me go. But the securty guard told me I would receive a letter from the store to go to court and either fight the charge or pay for it and I still have not received that letter.
    I was wondering why I got the ticket for fingerprint and court appearance the second time but not the first. Also would I need to get a lawyer. I have never been arrested or in trouble with the law prior to these to cases. Any answere would be appreciated.
    Fr_Chuck's Avatar
    Fr_Chuck Posts: 81,301, Reputation: 7692
    Expert
     
    #4

    Jul 21, 2008, 07:01 PM
    Well you did not say where you are at some countries will cut your hand off so you won't do it a third time.

    Yes I will agree I hope you sit in jail a few nights, since you obviously did not learn anything the first time, and guess what the judges most likely will feel the same way, esp if you get the same judge.

    I was working with a young man this week, he could not get his bail reduced, could not get judge to hear a motion to dismiss, guess why, the jduge confused him with someone else ( similar names) and he was tired of seeing that one person, when the guy appeared before the judge the judge said, "who are you" and dismissed it all.
    JudyKayTee's Avatar
    JudyKayTee Posts: 46,503, Reputation: 4600
    Uber Member
     
    #5

    Jul 21, 2008, 07:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dumbguy83
    Hi everyone, I was recently caught stealling an item that costs $40. Securty called the cops and the officer gave me a ticket that said I had to go to get figerprinted and to court. I was caught around 8 months before that for stealling an item that was about $60. The cops were called but they just took down my info and let me go. But the securty guard told me I would recieve a letter from the store to go to court and either fight the charge or pay for it and I still have not recieved that letter.
    I was wondering why I got the ticket for fingerprint and court appearance the second time but not the first. Also would I need to get a lawyer. I have never been arrested or in trouble with the law prior to these to cases. Any answere would be appreciated.

    Probably your name came up on the computer - you learned nothing the first time so this time they are going to make an impression on you. Maybe the second store has lower tolerance for stealing than the first.

    Yes, get an Attorney. Once your fingerprints are on file you are in the system.

    How old are you and what State?
    JudyKayTee's Avatar
    JudyKayTee Posts: 46,503, Reputation: 4600
    Uber Member
     
    #6

    Jul 21, 2008, 07:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dumbguy83
    Hi everyone, I was recently caught stealling an item that costs $40. Securty called the cops and the officer gave me a ticket that said I had to go to get figerprinted and to court. I was caught around 8 months before that for stealling an item that was about $60. The cops were called but they just took down my info and let me go. But the securty guard told me I would recieve a letter from the store to go to court and either fight the charge or pay for it and I still have not recieved that letter.
    I was wondering why I got the ticket for fingerprint and court appearance the second time but not the first. Also would I need to get a lawyer. I have never been arrested or in trouble with the law prior to these to cases. Any answere would be appreciated.

    This was posted twice - you aren't going to get any more answers and, in fact, the duplicate post is confusing.

    I already answered your other post.
    Alty's Avatar
    Alty Posts: 28,317, Reputation: 5972
    Pets Expert
     
    #7

    Jul 21, 2008, 07:27 PM
    Why did you post twice? The answers aren't going to be different no matter how often you post. You asked for advice, you are getting that advice. I can tell you that Judy Kae and Fr_Chuck know allot about the law and legal issues, so I'd follow their advice if I where you.

    It's not what you want to hear, but it is the truth. The fact is, if you steal, sooner or later you will get caught, you claim you only stole twice, and both times you got caught, perhaps it's time to stop, you obviously aren't very good at it.

    When you go to court, if you get lucky and the charges are dropped, then learn from this and move on, next time you might not be so lucky.
    dumbguy83's Avatar
    dumbguy83 Posts: 10, Reputation: 0
    New Member
     
    #8

    Jul 21, 2008, 08:13 PM
    Sorry everyone, I'm really new to this cause believe it or not I Rarely use the computer and this is the first time I've posted anything on forums. Just need some advice cause I F****d up and when I get through this I will never take anything again.
    I'm 24 years old, live in Toronto,ONT. I never received any type of letter or court papers from the first store even though the security guard said I would. He said If I didn't pay then they would sue me in civil court.

    My questions are:

    1) If the store orders me to pay them a certain amount and I do Pay, will I still get a criminal record.

    2) Regarding second time caught where I got a ticket for fingerprinting and court date. Is there a chance that they will consider that my first offence. Since I didn't get that ticket the first time I was caught.

    I thank anyone with advice and apoligize if I'm not posting correctly.
    dumbguy83's Avatar
    dumbguy83 Posts: 10, Reputation: 0
    New Member
     
    #9

    Jul 22, 2008, 08:18 PM
    Theft under 5000/cival/criminal?
    Hi everyone I'm 24 and live in toronto, ontario, also no criminal record. I was caught stealing item worth 60$, the cops were called and they took down my info and left. They did not give me any ticket to apear in court. However the security guard told me that the store will be sending me a letter to pay for a specific amount and that if I didn't pay they would sue me in civil court.
    It's been 10 months later and I've still not received any letter.

    I was recently caught at different store for taking an item worth $40. Cops were called and I was given a ticket to apear in court and for fingerprinting. The securty guard said that this store would not go after me in civil court.

    My question is when I appear in court for the second infraction, will the courts know that I was caught previously? Is there a chance that they would cosider this a first offence.

    I did something stupid and am really stressed out. I would appreciate any comments or advice.
    JudyKayTee's Avatar
    JudyKayTee Posts: 46,503, Reputation: 4600
    Uber Member
     
    #10

    Jul 22, 2008, 08:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dumbguy83
    Hi everyone I'm 24 and live in toronto, ontario, also no criminal record. I was caught stealing item worth 60$, the cops were called and they took down my info and left. They did not give me any ticket to apear in court. However the security guard told me that the store will be sending me a letter to pay for a specific amount and that if I didn't pay they would sue me in civil court.
    It's been 10 months later and I've still not recieved any letter.

    I was recently caught at differnt store for taking an item worth $40. Cops were called and I was given a ticket to apear in court and for fingerprinting. The securty guard said that this store would not go after me in civil court.

    My question is when I appear in court for the second infraction, will the courts know that I was caught previously? Is there a chance that they would cosider this a first offence.

    I did something stupid and am really stressed out. I would appreciate any comments or advice.


    You continue to post the same questons. Apparently you don't like the answers you are getting.

    I have patiently answered all of your questons and then answered the quesetons raised by my answers, as have others.

    I have no idea what your problem is - repeatedly posting the same queston is NOT going to give you different anssers nor has the law changed in past 3 hours since you LAST
    JudyKayTee's Avatar
    JudyKayTee Posts: 46,503, Reputation: 4600
    Uber Member
     
    #11

    Jul 22, 2008, 08:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dumbguy83
    Hi everyone I'm 24 and live in toronto, ontario, also no criminal record. I was caught stealing item worth 60$, the cops were called and they took down my info and left. They did not give me any ticket to apear in court. However the security guard told me that the store will be sending me a letter to pay for a specific amount and that if I didn't pay they would sue me in civil court.
    It's been 10 months later and I've still not recieved any letter.

    I was recently caught at differnt store for taking an item worth $40. Cops were called and I was given a ticket to apear in court and for fingerprinting. The securty guard said that this store would not go after me in civil court.

    My question is when I appear in court for the second infraction, will the courts know that I was caught previously? Is there a chance that they would cosider this a first offence.

    I did something stupid and am really stressed out. I would appreciate any comments or advice.


    You continue to post the same questions. Apparently you don't like the answers you are getting.

    I have patiently answered all of your questions and then answered the questions raised by my answers, as have others.

    I have no idea what your problem is - repeatedly posting the same question is NOT going to give you different answers nor has the law changed in past 3 hours since the LAST time you posted.

    Posts should be combined - I think stealing may be the least of your problems.
    dumbguy83's Avatar
    dumbguy83 Posts: 10, Reputation: 0
    New Member
     
    #12

    Jul 23, 2008, 11:46 AM
    Your answere did not satisfy my questions JUDY. I don't think anyone is obligated to answer the questions being posted, so if you you don't like the questions I'm asking, then please just ignore them. Thanks!
    JudyKayTee's Avatar
    JudyKayTee Posts: 46,503, Reputation: 4600
    Uber Member
     
    #13

    Jul 23, 2008, 03:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dumbguy83
    Your answere did not satisfy my questions JUDY. I don't think anyone is obligated to answer the questions being posted, so if you you don't like the questions I'm asking, then please just ignore them. Thanks!

    I most certainly answered. Here is your question:

    [QUOTE=dumbguy83}My question is when I appear in court for the second infraction, will the courts know that I was caught previously? Is there a chance that they would cosider this a first offence.[QUOTE]

    My answer was - Yes, and yes, no one knows if you're on the computer or not. There is no way for anyone to know this 100%.

    Read through what you've posted and everyone has answered. It's the same question and the answer is still the same DUMBGUY.
    Curlyben's Avatar
    Curlyben Posts: 18,514, Reputation: 1860
    BossMan
     
    #14

    Jul 23, 2008, 03:39 PM
    >Threads Merged<

Not your question? Ask your question View similar questions

 

Question Tools Search this Question
Search this Question:

Advanced Search

Add your answer here.


Check out some similar questions!

Theft under $5000. 2nd time. But 1st time since 18th [ 4 Answers ]

Hey all, So basically the story goes like this: In April of 2006, I was arrested for theft under $5000 for car prowling in a neighborhood and some alleyways. I was 17 at the time. We got caught with $1500 worth of golf clubs in the back of my dads car. Needless to say, my dad was pissed....

Theft under $5000.00 first time offence [ 2 Answers ]

I was recently questioned about the disappearance of thousands of dollars and 2500 tshirts being stolen from my former place of employment. I have no knowledge on this matter and highly doubt it even occurred. What I believe is the owner is trying to avoid paying their supplier for product...

Theft under 5000, internal, first time [ 2 Answers ]

Hello everyone, I am an idiot, I'm 23 years old, I hail from BC Canada. I've had a clean record, until now, and I can't sleep. This issue is keeping me up at night, and I need help to reassure myself. Here it goes: I used to work at a big grocery store, and I was the person who would issue...

First time theft under $5000 [ 2 Answers ]

Today I was caught as an accomplice to theft under 5000. My friend stole 3 bottles of perfume from a department store in ontario and put them in a shopping bag of mine and then walked out. He was caught and we were both brought in. the officer said I was an accomplice even though I had not actually...

Theft under $5000. 2nd time. [ 4 Answers ]

My friend got busted for armed robbery a yr ago. He's still on probabtion. Then he stole a lady's wallet. Got busted and had to pay a fine. Now he has a court date on Friday and he's freaking out. Will he get jail time? Please any info would be great.


View more questions Search