[savedsinner7]

Do not assume to speak for anything that I have "picked up" credendovidis. My faith, my beliefs, my convictions are from the Holy Spirit and His Unfallible Word--Jesus.

[Credendovidis]

savedsinner7 : I did not intend that remark in any negative way ! But I stand corrected !

:)

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[Alty]

Done, reported, no more!

Cred, you may have noticed, I gave you a greenie today, when you do say something that is valid I do acknowledge it, to bad you cannot see fit to do the same. I asked you nicely, but still you want to win, well, I'm out of the battle, I'm done giving you what you want. Let the mods decide, I'm out.

Savedsinner, keep believing, your faith has brought you a long way, you don't have to convince anyone else, you know what's in your heart and soul. God bless you.

Alty out.

[Credendovidis]

Altenweg : you are free to do whatever you feel needed. But I note that you STILL have not supported all these wild claims you made against me as if I would be attacking other people's belief. Of course you do not, as you have no leg to stand on... I never did that !

BTW : do you really think that I care if you give me "greenies" or "reds" ?
Sorry dear : that seems totally irrelevant to me.

:rolleyes:

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[savedsinner7]

Psalm 34:8
Oh, taste and see that the LORD is good;Blessed is the man who trusts in Him!

Psalm 86:5
For You, Lord, are good, and ready to forgive,And abundant in mercy to all those who call upon You.


Goodness is determined by God's standard. Not mine.

Isaiah 64:6
We are all infected and impure with sin.When we display our righteous deeds,they are nothing but filthy rags.Like autumn leaves, we wither and fall,and our sins sweep us away like the wind.

[Wondergirl]

Goodness is determined by God's standard. Not mine.

Then you've answered your own question, and that's it for this thread.

[Alty]

Please don't call me dear, call me Altenweg or Alty, only my husband or people who care about me call me dear.

Cred, I mentioned the greenie because I wanted you to realize that it's not you, it's what you say that upsets me. The greenie I gave you was for good advice you gave to a young girl who though she might be pregnant.

Once again we've gotten totally off the topic at hand, I don't want to do this anymore, and I asked nicely for you to just let it go and move on to a thread that suits you more than this one.

As for my beliefs about you, you talk down to people, tell them what wording to use because to you it is belief not fact, but to a person who believes in God, especially someone who believes as much as the OP, it is fact, not a belief. That's why I say that you are attacking her beliefs, do you understand?

I don't wish to get into another pi$$ing contest with you, I'm done, but please, try to understand how Christians feel about the way you phrase things, that's why you cause controversy, and that's how you start fights, because they feel the need to defend what they believe to be fact, and you just keep telling them it isn't fact.

No, we cannot prove it's fact, and I know why you want the word belief used, but I've tried many times, unsuccessfully to explain to you why stating it's only a belief is like waving a red flag in front of a bull. To a Christian, it is fact, just like to you it's a belief, I can't explain it any better than that.

It's just wording Cred, surely you look past that.

Is the fighting getting us anywhere Cred?

Let the mods decide. And may I advise that you look at the OP's profile, maybe that will make you understand a bit more.

Good bye.

[Alty]

Then you've answered your own question, and that's it for this thread.

Thank goodness.

[Fr_Chuck]

Well actually this is the "discussion" board, not the Christian board, Cred is actually free to talk about someone's faith here, this is part of actually why we developed these boards, If you want to post on a area where your religious faith is more protected please stay on the board for that faith, Christian, Wicca, Islam and so on.
These discussion boards are a more "glove" off type board, but personal attacks are still not allowed.

For the Christian, remember many of the non believers have spent years doing nothing but learning to attack peoples faith.

Crev actually attacks the entire idea of belief but does like to pick on Christians more than other religions but he is within the rules on his posts for this discussion area.

Remember when you go into the real world and share your faith, your faith will be attacked, we see that in the bible, the entire idea of putting on the full armour, that we are not fighting against just flesh and blood. What attacks on faith you get on these boards is nothing like what happens often in the real world when you start sharing your faith in person. And esp when you start standing up for your beliefs.

My wife and I lost a good music contract when I would not pray with people to their "mother goddess". And in my years of street ministry I would write a book on things that happen.

As for as the good, only God is good, and creation was good at the beginning before sin, we know this since God told us, it was good. But after sin, only God is good, and mankind to borrow the Methodist teaching is in a state of santification, we are still growing and working on our state of holiness but we will never reach that point till we are fully with God.