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  • Mar 21, 2007, 03:43 PM
    talaniman
    It is amazing how crisis situations bring things out we didn't know before. You are seeing things in her now, that you could not a while ago. No telling how long she has been playing games, but now that your eyes are open and your free of her control, keep it that way and just leave her alone. She'll get the message and no further contact from you is needed nor recommended.
  • Mar 21, 2007, 06:06 PM
    amy99roo
    Trust me... keep up the NC. I just got/getting out of a mess with a guy who asked for space at the end and then called me all the time and fed me massive amounts of mixed signals. Things went from bad to worse because I couldn't understand what was going on. It continued for MONTHS, until he met someone else. He was in complete control of the situation and he knew it. Huge ego boost. I honestly thought he cared about me. Just beware!
  • Mar 22, 2007, 05:36 AM
    talaniman
    You ponder on the ex way too much, because it doesn't matter what she is doing, and who she is doing it with.

    Reread all the other posts you have written here and learn from the answers you have gotten already.
  • Mar 22, 2007, 06:59 AM
    X-stream87
    I think you really need to establish I full blown no contact here. No phone calls, if you have her on MSN get rid of her, if you both have myspace or some other type communication tool where you can easily see where she is or communciate with her then get rid of it.

    Unfortunately she is moving on even if this is just a rebound and you need to start doing the same don't nescessarily get into a rebound relationship but do something completely different from what you did when you where with her I know you will still think about her almost constantly and the guy she is interested in, but slowly aslong as you stick to no contact these thoughts of her will become less and less frequent and sure you might bump into her from time to time but just give a polite hello and leave it at that

    This is the best advice I can give you as it is working for me so far in my break up and I hope it helps you to.
  • Mar 22, 2007, 07:10 AM
    sypher373
    Yeah,

    I found myself checking the damn myspace page too frequently and seeing things that would upset myself. I knew I probably wouldn't want to see them, but I looked anyway. Needless to say, these last two days have been pretty miserable. Since then, I deleted my myspace account, and I am doing my best to keep no contact.

    Your right, I do think about her constantly, and who she's interested in. Im doing everything to convince myself to stop thinking about her, but it's a lot easier said then done.
  • Mar 22, 2007, 07:23 AM
    X-stream87
    Believe me I understand but in time very slowly you will start to heal aslong as you maintain no contact, getting rid of myspace was a good idea that will really help out trust me, and do be surprised if you begin to experience different emotions one day you may feel great the next you may feel so angry to point that you want to put your fist through the wall, and then next you might feel like someone just killed your dog, a breakup is full of emotions but aslong as you don't act upon them and stick to no contact no matter how badly somedays you might want to talk to her then you will begin to feel better and like I said it won't be right away I'm about four to five months out of my relationship and I'm still recovering so it all just takes time but trust me you will being to feel better.

    Best of luck buddy.
  • Mar 22, 2007, 08:20 AM
    Wildcat21
    Dude - you really neede to work on yourself. You need to learn about women.

    No women wants a needy - jealous boyfriend.

    MYSpace destroys relationships. Believe me - seen it over and over.

    You put WAY too much importance in a women you never were going gto be with. They are part of your life - not your life - you put too much importance into someone and they will be repulsed and leave.

    I might suggest a counseler - today. You really need a pro to help you through this. Making a new post hear every day won't help.
  • Mar 22, 2007, 08:26 AM
    BlazingCold
    Forget about her. It's that simple, although very difficult to put into practice.

    No contact will help you immensely.
  • Mar 22, 2007, 10:23 AM
    Stunning07
    man don't worry my x girl of two years we just broke up and she had someone else on the side she's talking to it realli didt hurt me I'm more on ease now knowiing she's moving on.. let her be don't stress the guy he is a rebound... keep up NC... later on become friends build your way up if you still feel the same... about myspace.. don't get rid of it... don't move her from your top... I think. If you do it will show how weak you are w.out her and she will think your so immature for doing that... let her be.. if she loves you she'll come around
  • Mar 22, 2007, 01:22 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    about myspace.. don't get rid of it... don't move her from your top... I think. If you do it will show how weak you are w.out her and she will think your so immature for doing that... let her be.. if she loves you she'll come around
    Do whatever you have to to keep no contact as it doesn't matter what she thinks at this point, what is important is you heal and move on.
  • Mar 22, 2007, 01:46 PM
    sypher373
    Thanks for the advice guys, I appreciate it.

    I feel like I finally realized something today... maybe its just the mood I'm in.

    I have definitely realized that my mood swings like crazy, angry one minute, depressed the next, denial, desperation... its like a vicious cycle. Well, as of now I feel like I am in quite a rational mood.

    I am starting to be able to push thoughts of her out of my mind when they begin to appear, and that helps a lot. Keeping busy by giong to the gym has helped me a lot too (good advice). In my head I knew that going No Contact was not to bring her back, however my heart felt different, though I'm over that now.

    For now, I can see clearly that this is over... I still want a friendship in the future, but in my head I realize thinking of that is only slowing me down. I need to move on, and deal with those things in the future.

    Wildcat - One thing you said in an old post (to GeoffersonAirplane I believe) seems to sum up how I am feeling right now... ""I know for a fact it's EASY to know what to do - but very hard to act properly.""

    Thanks again for all the advice, Im doing my best to understand the panic and the anxeity are all just a phase, and they come and go. Only time will heal those wounds.
  • Mar 23, 2007, 02:05 PM
    MrsDead
    Maybe jealousy. Summit like that
  • Mar 23, 2007, 02:18 PM
    TrueFaith
    Its all normaly man :) I mean wow we have all been there my friend... if I had it my way all my Xs would be painful upset and depresst with out me :) never moving on!. but sadly I know that's not true I guess the best thing is to not even think about it. Or try this.. try thinking about all the bad points that she has.. and think of what the new guy has to put up with! And think of the poor guy when she leaves him..
  • Mar 24, 2007, 09:56 AM
    talaniman
    Your thoughts are normal, but it is something you can control by staying busy building a life without her. Don't dwell on her, thats torture, so get a plan that every time she pops in your head have something else to focus on.
  • Mar 26, 2007, 09:08 PM
    sypher373
    Do I need therapy?
    Hey guys,

    Its been a few days since I posted, and I have a serious question.

    I am doing my best to not talk to my ex at all, since she told me that she wanted to break up. Her reasoning was that she does not feel for me as she used to, as well as the fact that she has feelings for someone else and does not feel it is fair to be dating me while she has feelings for someone else. She has also told me she still has feelings for me, and is not looking for a relationship with anyone right now.

    My question is this: I have noticed that I seem to be obcessed with her. I cannot stop thinking about her, and I constantly worry that she is "hooking up" or pursuing a relationship with this kid. She has sworn to me this is not true, and I believe her as she also tells me she still has feelings for me and wants to maintain a strong friendship. I know that NC is necessary for this...

    Anyway, my issue is that I am scared that I don't seem to be getting better. I have spent the good part of days sick to my stomach thinking about it over and over and over again. I have tried everything I can to keep busy, going to events at school, playing cards, going to the gym everyday, watching TV and movies. Nothing seems to help, as I spend a lot of the time while I am doing these things thinking about her. It makes me sick to my stomach.

    I have also noticed that tiny things will set me off. For example, she sent me a message on the internet, just saying goodnight and hope all is well. We have a good friendly relationship, and are trying to keep that without talking so much... Anyway, she sent me the message, and I missed it, and then responded later to say goodnight. Her away messaged was simply... "Goodnight :)". What scares me is my reaction to this. I totally flipped out because my mind took a crazy train of thought: I immediately wondered if the smiley face was to him, maybe they spent the night together. What were they doing. Are they together now, did they make out. As I write this, I can feel my face get hot and my stomach feel like I am going to vomit.

    Upon reading the simple message, I broke down. I was in tears with worry about it, and I did not know how to handle it. I am so afraid that even though I am giving it time, I am not going to get over it.

    Is this normal, or is it possible that I need professional help. I am worried that I will not be able to handle this on my own, and I am starting to question my mental health. I know it is a traumatic experience, but I should be better than this almost a two months after the breakup. There is a counseling center at my school which I am seriously considering going to soon. Im very scared

    Somebody help me :(
  • Mar 26, 2007, 09:31 PM
    Skell
    Its normal to have these feelings immediately after a break up but I don't think you are doing yourself any favours as far as getting over it.

    You really need to cut all contact with her. Sadly you can't keep the friendly relationship going. It will tear you to shreds with worry. It is okay for her because she has already detached herself from you emotionally with respect to the relationship. She doesn't sit at home wondering what your up to and if your with anyone else. She doesn't really care for that matter.

    You really need to cut all forms of contact with her in order to help these thoughts go away. No texts, no emails, no MSN or whatever other forms of contact you have. NONE!!

    Listen to me here. I have been through what your going through. Very very similar. I felt all these feelings. I laid there all night worrying and crying and thinking the most insane things that now I look back were never true.

    Please give yourself a chance and completely cut contact with her and begin to focus on you.

    If you feel it necessary to talk to a therapist or someone about how your feeling then certainly no harm can be done. They may shed a different light on it for you. I'm pretty sure though that they will also advise you that your best therapy now is to remove her from your life and focus on you. I know when I spoke to a counselor that that was there advice.
  • Mar 26, 2007, 09:32 PM
    grammadidi
    I believe that one of the reasons that you are still so strongly obsessed with her is because you continue to have contact. You should block her on messenger, email, and phone for sure or you will just continue to feel this way.

    Secondly, I think that if YOU feel that your mental health is suffering (I'd be more inclined to say emotional state) then you definitely should seek professional help. If you are concerned that you may not be able to handle this on your own that is good enough reason to find someone to explore this obsession and the reasons you are struggling so much. Pay attention to your inner concerns. It could take a year or more to get past this so you do need to find some way of coping.

    She must have fulfilled a need in you that you are not meeting within yourself. Try to see this as a positive thing. It sounds like you weren't ready for a relationship of depth anyhow. Learn how to fulfill your own needs before you try to fulfill someone else's.

    Best of luck!

    Didi
  • Mar 26, 2007, 09:49 PM
    sypher373
    Thanks for the advice guys,

    I know that when I was doing well with No contact in the beginning, I was much much better than I am now. I ended up seeing things on a myspace profile which upset me, and since then I have been a disaster. I have since delted my myspace account, deleted her name on my contact list, though I never told her that she could never talk to me.

    Didi, before I was in this relationship, I feel that I was quite complete, and was happy with my life. The problem is that once the relationship started (both of our first loves) we became dependent on each other. It tears me apart to think that she has left me for someone else, even though in all reality this may be not true at all. I think I was okay for the relationship, though once in the relationship I made the mistake of becoming dependent... I made her my life, not part of my life.

    Maybe she feels that I am more capable of handling the conversations and friendships than I am. I suppose that I should tell her I cannot handle it, and I need to be completely isolated for a while. I was afraid that letting her know how weak I was would ruin any chance for a friendship/reconciliation. I know now that I need to stop thinking along the lines of getting back together, as it WILL NOT happen. I suppose I am afraid that if I don't remain somehow in her life, she is going to be with someone else, and that thought destroys me inside and out. I know that I need to stop thinking about her altogether, and her being with him, it is just so much easier said than done. I was hopeful that by now I would be on the road to recovery, maybe with the end in sight... and I know I only have myself to blame for contacting her initially.

    I just hope that in time this does get better, because as it seems it is not.

    At this point, I think I will stop all contact, even the friendly "hope your okay" messages. Every time I hear from her, it just makes me realize how much I miss her. If I still obcess about her and can't stop myself, I think I will see someone.

    Thanks again, the insight is definitely appreciated.
  • Mar 26, 2007, 09:52 PM
    mosesgt
    Listen to Didi. You definitely need help. When you get physical symptoms two months after an High School break up, then there are problems. No doubt your sleep, energy, & appetite are suffering, as well as the concentration problem you mentioned.
    Obsession is a negative emotion. It has nothing to do with love. It has to do with your needs. Didi is right. Please hold off on any new relationship until you are in counseling for a good long while. In the mean time, you family doctor or a psychiatrist could prescribe a mild antidepressant to help you with your anxiety & depressive symptoms. Remember to ask about possible side effects, since all medications CAN, but certainly do not allways result in some side effects.
    If you are not going to church. That might be a good type of distraction for you now.
    God Bless!
  • Mar 26, 2007, 09:58 PM
    sypher373
    Trust me,

    I have no intentinos of looking for any other realtionships for a very long time. I still get the feelings of despair, because I had everything I wanted, and I feel like its gone now.

    Call me naïve, but I wouldn't classify this as a "typical high school relationship". To be hoenst, the majority of it occurred outside of high school, though it is true this was my first relationship.

    Thanks for all the input
  • Mar 26, 2007, 10:12 PM
    mosesgt
    "Despair" is a strong term. If that is true, please seek help tomorrow AM from the school counselor or some one. I did not mean to indicate this was "typical" by any stretch. I'm going to bed- hopefully you can get some sleep also. I'll say a prayer for you before I drift off. God Bless amigo!
    Ps:if it really gets real bad, 911 always gets you some help real fast!
  • Mar 27, 2007, 04:12 AM
    Geoffersonairplane
    I agreed with the first 2 responses and I think that the contact is tearing you apart. Like Skell, I have been through this too and in fact, when I was at your stage, he was one of the great people here on AMHD that helped me deal with my situation. I am 7 months post breakup and I can tell you, I found this website 2 months after the breakup and I was feeling very similar to you. I had the thoughts you had and I cried also and could not keep my mind on anything. The harder thing for you is that you still have contact with her and I broke this after 1 month.. It helps more than you realise, you can't be friends with this woman, not now and maybe never.

    If you think you need counseling, then there is nothing wrong with seeing a professional, truth is, sometimes I think I could have done with doing this and as I say, nothing wrong with it at all.. They will be able to give you a fresh and positive perspective on the situation.

    I rode my train alone with friends and family but it hurt so much but gain comfort my friend, that you are not alone, you are never alone, unless you want to be and although it may not seem like it now, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

    Look at me, I can tell you that I am sat behind this computer screen typing my response and I am more emotionally healthy than I was 5 months ago. I still have my down times but I feel much better. I see people on here that in my opinion have done it even better than I have but everyone is different and as long as you follow some basic rules, you will get through it, I promise you.
  • Mar 27, 2007, 07:23 AM
    sypher373
    Again, I'm back...
    I feel that I have pushed her away by trying to explain my need for no contact (again) during an emotional state. I know that I have shown her a side of me she never saw, and I am afraid that I have done permanent damage to her feelings toward me as a person.

    If I did push her away from me, does that necessarily mean that I have done permanent damage? Is it just a temporary anger and frustration that she feels towards me? I hate to think the last time we talk, I was a fool and made her angry, whereas every time before it was always ended on a good note. All I want to do is call and explain myself now that I am more rational, and less emotional - but I think I might be better off just leaving her be.

    Would explaining myself and apologizing for the way I acted be worthwhile in reparing some of the damage I have done? Am I overanalyzing this and should just let her be, and her feelings aren't truly destroyed for me forever?
  • Mar 27, 2007, 07:28 AM
    Geoffersonairplane
    Sypher...

    Leave her alone now. What ever she feels towards you will likely be temporary but what she thinks and feels about you should be irrelevant because it has nothing to do with your process of moving on and finding a life without her.

    Close the door for a while and work on yourself. That door may then be closed forever in time to come.
  • Mar 27, 2007, 07:32 AM
    sypher373
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Geoffersonairplane
    Sypher...

    Leave her alone now. What ever she feels towards you will likely be temporary but what she thinks and feels about you should be irrelevant because it has nothing to do with your process of moving on and finding a life without her.

    Close the door for a while and work on yourself. That door may then be closed forever in time to come.

    Thanks Geoff,

    Im just worried because it seems that its harder for me now then it ever was. I don't think I was this upset when we first broke up, which is why I was contemplating counseling. On that note, I called and made an apointment for Thursday, maybe they can put it in better perspective for me. All I want to do is stop obsessing about it.
  • Mar 27, 2007, 07:35 AM
    Geoffersonairplane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    Thanks Geoff,

    Im just worried becuase it seems that its harder for me now then it ever was. I don't think I was this upset when we first broke up, which is why I was contemplating counseling. On that note, I called and made an apointment for thursday, maybe they can put it in better perspective for me. All i want to do is stop obsessing about it.


    That is a good move Sypher.. You have a good positive attitude..

    If it helps, read back on my first thread too and you can see how I was feeling and the good advice I got too.

    Here is a link: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relati...elp-39548.html

    Also.. By keeping yourself busy, this will help you try and stop obsessing!
  • Mar 27, 2007, 10:27 AM
    sypher373
    Just an update (and I know I'm on here a lot, reading responses really helps me keep it all in perspective, thanks again)

    I think I'm starting to make a little bit of progress. Ive realized that no matter how much I told myself it was over, I was doing everything with the ulterior motive of getting her back.

    She text messaged me this morning to see if I had talked with anyone else yet. I said I had not. She then said "okay, we can't talk anymore". I know I pushed a little bit, but I responded with "I was going to tell you tommorrow, but ill tell you now, good luck on your interview tommorrow. I hope your not telling me we can't talk becuase you are mad at me, and I still look forward to being your friend in the future". She responded, informing me that it is not because she is mad at me, thanked me for the good wishes on her job interview, and she is too looking forward to being my friend. I am trying to take all of this at face value, and not read into the way in which she said anything, or any hesitations it seemed she had. I know that she is honest, and if she was mad at me, I would know it. She is doing this for the benefit of both of us, and I am just too stubborn to accept that, and I see it as an offensive action. I am beginning to realize that she is being much stronger than I, and I need to follow suit before I hurt myself worse.

    That said, I am not anticipating any further contact with her for quite some time. I think I have taken some steps towards eliminating any temptations... I have gone through my dorm and boxed up all my reminders - valentines cards, gifts, love notes, old ticket stubs, pictures from my wallett, and I have even burned all emails and text messages to a CD and delted them (I don't want to lose them forever). I have been tempted to check her AIM away message, or visit her myspace page, but I have been successful in stopping myself, because I know I will interpret her attempts at moving on as signs that she does not, and never did care about me and what we had. As has been said on these forums "I am comparing my insides to her outsides, and that isnt a fair judgement".

    Now its time to wait. There is nothing I can do, but let time run its course, and hope I am feeling better soon. (I mean this in addition to what I have been doing - gym, TV, movies, hanging out with the guys as much as possible)

    Thanks for listening
  • Mar 27, 2007, 11:16 AM
    Geoffersonairplane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    Just an update (and I know im on here a lot, reading responses really helps me keep it all in perspective, thanks again)

    Do this as much as you like, venting on here and also helping others really helps and you can also identify with what others are going through.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    I think im starting to make a little bit of progress. Ive realized that no matter how much I told myself it was over, I was doing everything with the ulterior motive of getting her back.

    Its called Denial and I went through this.. Its really strange because looking at your situation reminds me so much of mine. Denial is totally natural by the way, part of the grief process you are going through.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    She text messaged me this morning to see if I had talked with anyone else yet. I said I had not. She then said "okay, we can't talk anymore". I know I pushed a little bit, but I responded with "I was going to tell you tommorrow, but ill tell you now, good luck on your interview tommorrow. I hope your not telling me we can't talk becuase you are mad at me, and I still look forward to being your friend in the future". She responded, informing me that it is not becuase she is mad at me, thanked me for the good wishes on her job interview, and she is too looking forward to being my friend. I am trying to take all of this at face value, and not read into the way in which she said anything, or any hesitations it seemed she had. I know that she is honest, and if she was mad at me, I would know it.

    Quit talking to her, remove her from your life completely.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    I am beginning to realize that she is being much stronger than I, and I need to follow suit before I hurt myself worse.

    Of course she is, she left you, she had done all her grieving probably far in advance of you. Reverse the situation and I bet she would be the weaker of you both. Being the one who is suddenly left behind is harder, I'm sure she hurt too but not as much as you, I am sure.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    That said, I am not anticipating any further contact with her for quite some time. I think I have taken some steps towards eliminating any temptations...I have gone through my dorm and boxed up all my reminders - valentines cards, gifts, love notes, old ticket stubs, pictures from my wallett, and I have even burned all emails and text messages to a CD and delted them (i dont want to lose them forever).

    Excellent.. Very positive action to take.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    I have been tempted to check her AIM away message, or visit her myspace page, but I have been sucessful in stopping myself, becuase I know I will interpret her attempts at moving on as signs that she does not, and never did care about me and what we had. As has been said on these forums "I am comparing my insides to her outsides, and that isnt a fair judgement".

    Excellent you read my thread about how this cat got killed by his curiosity.. LOL

    For those who don't know what I am banging on about, the wise val gave me some useful advice..

    Here is the link: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relati...alk-47487.html

    Post#4 from Valinors_Sorrow.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    Now its time to wait. There is nothing I can do, but let time run its course, and hope I am feeling better soon. (I mean this in addition to what I have been doing - gym, tv, movies, hanging out with the guys as much as possible)

    Not time to wait, but time to begin healing and time to move on and find a life without her..

    Light is at the end of the tunnel I promise you! :)
  • Mar 27, 2007, 11:33 AM
    Geoffersonairplane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    agrees: Thanks for the support - thought that was chuff talking for a minute there :)

    Yes, I can sometimes adopt the Chuff way of providing advice and with that in mind, Chuff is very good at this and he is a good voice of wisdom on AMHD and helped me immensely..
  • Mar 27, 2007, 11:39 AM
    SouthernBelle06
    No, you don't need therapy at this point. As others have stated, what you are feeling is normal. I know I went through it as most of us here on the site have. Now if you get to a point where you feel so low you may become self destructive... turn to drinking, drug abuse, food abuse, or start to think about harming yourself or others (her, this possible new guy), then yes, please seek help. You have to just give it time, as much as it sucks. It sounds like you are doing what you can to stay busy, which is great, and as others have suggested consider stopping this IM business with her. I think you are on the right track. Hang in there.
  • Mar 27, 2007, 04:57 PM
    sypher373
    Well its only been a few hours since I was here last, but I need to get some thoughts down out of my head.

    I had a relatively easy time this afternoon, I was able to keep busy and didn't think so much about her and her possibly being with another kid. As the sun sets though, I can feel myself becoming insecure. I don't know what it is, but nighttime seems to be the hardest time. Maybe it is because we used to do most of our talking at night, as we both had class all day. In any case, I'm starting to worry because I can feel the thoughts of her and him creeping into the back of my mind. During the time in which we were talking (a few weeks back) she had been honest with me, as she thought knowing the facts would help me. I am trying to use the knowledge that he only "sort of" likes her, and that he is still hung up on his ex-girlfriend to help me feel better.

    Deep down, I know what I need is to stop being upset that she may move on, and just accept it as an inevitbility. I hate to think of her being with anyone else, especially in a sexual way. As I write this, I am kicking myself because I know she is a very smart person, and would not involve herself in anything which was risky, or that she was unsure of.

    I guess I just can't help the thoughts that come into my mind. In any case, I am going to the gym now, going to play some cards with the guys later, and then probably go to sleep fairly early tonight. Sometimes I wish time would speed up.

    I am also going to put a quote from tal at the bottom of the post, so when I reread it, I can read this post. This wasn't posted to me, though I found it in an old thread, and I have read it at least 10 times today. If I haven't been able to explain it, this is exactly what I am doing, and I know I need to stop...

    Quote:

    Well you know what they say about ASSuming. Its so easy to fill in the blanks with our own insecurities, and hopes, and dream, with facts that just aren't there. How do you know your forgotten? She's having a great time without you? Why not ASSume she is looking for you in others and spinning her wheels with a lot of candidates that don't quite measure up?
    ASSume nothing and worry about it less.
  • Mar 27, 2007, 05:44 PM
    Skell
    Sypher you have some great advice form Geoff here. Great stuff. Please listen to him. He, like me and everyone else know what it is like.

    You really have to do your best though to get those crazy thoughts out of your head. Understand that no matter what you are thinking and worrying about her it doesn't make a difference to YOUR situation. None at all. The only thoughts that can help you are thoughts about YOU! Hard I know. Nearly impossible but you must try. I think you need to get out of the dorm and do something with friends. Even go somewhere alone where you know other people will be. Meet and talk to some new people.

    Or put you runners on and go for a jog. I found that to be a great way to get all those stupid thoughts out of my head. Sitting at home alone isn't going to help much.

    But you really really really need to cut all the contact! Please for the love of God no more text messages. I know your worried that it will push her away forever and that you may offend her but don't. Don't worry about that at all. If she is any sort of decent and respectful person she will understand that this is something you need to do. Its in your best interests. And if she can't accept that and it makes her mad then I hate to say it but she isn't really much of a person anyway. That would be a selfish and uncaring individual and someone your better off without.

    I had the same thoughts. I still do sometimes. But I can tell you that it hasn't pushed my ex away forever. We aren't close friends. We very rarely see one another, only when we run into one another out and about and we never ever call or text each other. But when we do run into one another everything is fine. Things are tough now but good people understand when someone they loved is hurting and if they are truly good people they will want to minimise that pain for them. At least that is what my good person did for me and although it hurt like hell I can't thank her enough now for understanding that we needed to go our separate ways if we were to heal.
  • Mar 27, 2007, 06:35 PM
    sypher373
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skell

    But you really really really need to cut all the contact! Please for the love of God no more text messages. I know your worried that it will push her away forever and that you may offend her but dont. Dont worry about that at all. If she is any sort of decent and respectful person she will understand that this is something you need to do. Its in your best interests. And if she can't accept that and it makes her mad then i hate to say it but she isnt really much of a person anyway. That would be a selfish and uncaring individual and someone your better off without.

    Skell,

    I know that she can accept that, and she knows we need to stop contact. To be honest, when I was still talking to her she told me that she knows I couldn't handle the contact, and we needed some apart time to get over this. I am completely committed to no contact now, because I have finally realized there is no other way around it. I don't mean to repeat the same things in my posts, I just feel like if I don't get them out of my head, they won't go away.

    I know this is going to sound stupid, but how exactly would you recommend me going out and just meeting people? I have a few friends on campus, though I usually hang out with them, and just them. I have always been quite shy, due to low self-confidence, which I am working on now. A lot of people have said meeting new people is a great way to get myself feeling better, I guess I'm just not sure how to do that...

    Thanks for the input
  • Mar 27, 2007, 07:23 PM
    Skell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    Skell,

    I know that she can accept that, and she knows we need to stop contact. To be honest, when I was still talking to her she told me that she knows I couldn't handle the contact, and we needed some apart time to get over this. I am completely commited to no contact now, becuase I have finally realized there is no other way around it. I dont mean to repeat the same things in my posts, I just feel like if I dont get them out of my head, they wont go away.

    Good! Im sure you will start to notice a difference in your feelings and emotional state. You will still have many ups and downs and it will be tough at times and you will feel like breaking. But don't. Please don't. I can assure you it won't help you one bit.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sypher373
    I know this is going to sound stupid, but how exactly would you recommend me going out and just meeting people? I have a few friends on campus, though I usually hang out with them, and just them. I have always been quite shy, due to low self-confidence, which I am working on now. A lot of people have said meeting new people is a great way to get myself feeling better, I guess im just not sure how to do that...

    Thanks for the input

    No it doesn't sound stupid at all. It is a fair enough question and I am a lot like you. I am shy at first and quite reserved around new people. So someone giving advice like "just go out and meet new people" would be tough fpor me to follow too. Or at least it was. I am not good at it either. But I am a lot better now, and it is only through practice. Most people are generally good people. At least I think I can pick out the good ones from the bad. Down under here we are a pretty relaxed lot and will talk to anyone really. But it doesn't make it easier in the approach part. Just go to places (sporting events, bands etc.) that you enjoy and I'm sure you will see people there similar to you. It only takes the balls to say one thing to a stranger and the next minute your in a conversation with them. And if your at a place where you share similar interests then there are endless conversation starters. I know it sounds tough and it is, but hey, what have you got to lose? Nothing. At the moment I bet it feels like it can't get much worse for you so what's the harm in trying to improve your situation. It might be easier than you expect. It just takes a little courage and I'm sure you have that ion you. At least you have shown us you do by cutting contact with the ex.
  • Mar 27, 2007, 09:09 PM
    tikitime
    One problem I see ('cause I've been there) is that by constantly logging in and keeping a running dialogue going about the breakup, you aren't putting her out of your mind. Try skipping this place, and ALL computer usage for a day and get out in the real world.

    I speak from experience when I say that depression following a breakup can be self sustaining if you let it..

    I hope that did not sound too harsh, and maybe it's the only way for you to avoid the urge to call her /check up on her.. etc? :confused:

    But maybe take up something that is not "self improvement " related, and just go do something FUN.. get in touch with old friends. Take a trip out of town.. That's always therapeutic.
  • Mar 27, 2007, 09:54 PM
    sypher373
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solid357
    you can't just drop this like a heavy rock. i'm in a similar boat. don't try to plug the holes, just swim to shore. not sure if i said this before, but if you love her and she comes back, you're good. if not, it'll make you a stronger man, and you won't need her. i've changed allot in the last month. i've been called a psycho, extremest, dangorous, and other things i'dd rather not meantion.

    Thanks Solid,
    From what you've said, I know your situation must be quite similar. In reality, though the details are different, I suppose most people's situations are very similar. At least the solutions to these situations are quite similar. I do still feel that I love her, and that is why it hurts so much to think of her moving on. At this point, I need to stop assuming because it is causing me to obsess about things which may not even be true. I know that's ridiculous, and Im doing my best to stop.

    Thanks
  • Mar 28, 2007, 10:29 AM
    grammadidi
    Let's remember the facts here.

    Sypher's ex told him SHE WANTED TO BREAK UP. She said SHE DOES NOT FEEL FOR HIM AS SHE USED TO and SHE HAS FEELING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. Finally, she said that she IS NOT LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP WITH ANYONE RIGHT NOW.

    Sypher feels he is 'obsessed' with her, that he knows he needs to adhere to 'no contact', he is 'scared' that he is not getting any better despite time passing. Thinking about the situation makes him feel sick to his stomach and he feels he needs professional help and worries that he can not handle this on his own.

    Therefore, what Sypher needs to do is pay attention to his body and mind. He needs to stop ALL contact with her. He needs to seek professional help. He needs to find ways of coping with the void he feels and find something else to focus upon. He needs to talk about it, because holding it in only makes it worse. He needs to surround himself with people sympathetic to his needs who will encourage him to grow past this and to stick to the NC rules. He needs a way to function in a healthy way without this gal.

    Sypher, did you see a counselor? Keep trying... don't give up... and STOP ALL CONTACT! Contact fills you with hope and prevents you from dealing with your issues. I don't know what your hobbies and interests are, but maybe you could join a group or something that focuses on one of your hobbies to help take your mind off things.

    I am also a firm believer that when you give of yourself you grow emotionally. Consider some kind of volunteer work. You will meet some wonderful people and feel good about yourself at the same time. That will help tremendously. Give it a try!

    Hugs, Didi
  • Mar 28, 2007, 10:47 AM
    sypher373
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by grammadidi
    Let's remember the facts here.

    Sypher's ex told him SHE WANTED TO BREAK UP. She said SHE DOES NOT FEEL FOR HIM AS SHE USED TO and SHE HAS FEELING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. Finally, she said that she IS NOT LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP WITH ANYONE RIGHT NOW.

    Sypher feels he is 'obsessed' with her, that he knows he needs to adhere to 'no contact', he is 'scared' that he is not getting any better despite time passing. Thinking about the situation makes him feel sick to his stomach and he feels he needs professional help and worries that he can not handle this on his own.

    Therefore, what Sypher needs to do is pay attention to his body and mind. He needs to stop ALL contact with her. He needs to seek professional help. He needs to find ways of coping with the void he feels and find something else to focus upon. He needs to talk about it, because holding it in only makes it worse. He needs to surround himself with people sympathetic to his needs who will encourage him to grow past this and to stick to the NC rules. He needs a way to function in a healthy way without this gal.

    Sypher, did you see a counselor? Keep trying... don't give up... and STOP ALL CONTACT! Contact fills you with hope and prevents you from dealing with your issues. I don't know what your hobbies and interests are, but maybe you could join a group or something that focuses on one of your hobbies to help take your mind off of things.

    I am also a firm believer that when you give of yourself you grow emotionally. Consider some kind of volunteer work. You will meet some wonderful people and feel good about yourself at the same time. That will help tremendously. Give it a try!

    Hugs, Didi

    Thanks for the info didi,

    And for everyone, I agree that the advice to not move in is wrong. Trust me, I will not fall back into the stages of waiting for her and seeing if she will come around. If she comes around, I want to be in a better emotional state, so I can make a rational decision as to whether anything can truly work between us... then or in the future.

    An update as of this morning... She had called me, and I picked up. I know this probably wasn't the smart thing to do, but I am still worried about her. It was an innocent call, she was telling me that she had accepted the job she had the interview for. I simply told her that I was proud of her, and congratulations.

    The problem comes with the fact that she was upset, and I knew it. Her voice was shaking and she was near tears. I asked her if everything was okay, and she explained that her mother is making her feel horrible about what she did to me (dumping me) and that she (her mom) does not agree with the decision at all. She even used the phrase "I wont forgive you for hurting him this much". (her mom can be a little on the excessive side). I did not get very invovled, just told her that I was sorry her mom was doing this to her, and that she already did what she did, so nothing can change that now anyway.

    After the conversation, I was concerned that I should have ignored the obvious signs of her being upset, and left it to her to come to me for help. I should not have tried to make her feel better as she needs to know that I am not here for her.

    Surprisingly, I feel quite okay after the conversation. I was having a rough morning, and it made me feel better. I am just concerned that I am only feeling better because I am interpreting her call as I know she did not mean it. I Don't WANT to think that this means she is thinking aobut me, or that anything AT ALL will change between us. In fact, I KNOW it doesn't mean any of this, I just hope I can stop my heart from thinking that way.

    Since I decided we need to cut contact two days ago, she has contacted me both days. If this continues into tomorrow, I will need to remind her, maybe a little more sternly, that I need to cut contact with her in order to move on.

    Just wanted to let you all know where I am at. I am feeling all right at this point, and I know my mood will swing, but I have an optimistic outlook on this.

    Maybe I'm an idiot for picking up the phone at all, or maybe I'm an idiot for reaching out and trying to make her feel better. Im not sure - but either way I know I made a mistake somehow.
  • Mar 28, 2007, 02:59 PM
    Skell
    What part of no contact don't you get?
  • Mar 28, 2007, 03:21 PM
    sypher373
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skell
    What part of no contact dont you get?

    I guess I just feel bad about ignoring her. I still have feelings for her, and I don't want to come across as a total a**hole. I guess I don't have a choice though.

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