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  • Sep 11, 2012, 02:35 PM
    Fiddels
    Okay fair enough.

    I live with my two brothers during the week, and on the weekend we go to our parent's house. Why would I want them to know I'm gay?

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    Me and my younger brother*, my older brother stays here.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Goldentetra View Post
    My friend is doing great. He's one of those effervescent people who really lives every ounce of life. Honestly his life is a giant party, I'm kinda jealous :)

    In my opinion, telling your friends your problems isn't selfish as long as you are there for them too. Obviously dumping everything on them and then leaving them when they need you isn't great.

    If you are feeling suicidal you should talk to someone, I don't know about peer as its a bit tough for some 15 year olds to respond the best to that (although better than nothing I think). See what the other say I'm no expert, just another human.

    Do you have any trusted adults in your life? There might be some phone life lines in your area where you could chat to someone about this if not.

    I can't emphasise enough how much being your age sucks but it gets so much better. I went away to uni and felt like a different person (I also wanted to kill myself but I didn't have half the problems you have to deal with.)

    You will meet someone like him, probably even better!

    Glad to hear that, I would be jealous too! :)

    And yeah the problem sharing is mutual, neither of us would dare just dumping all our problems without hearing out how they are first, it wouldn't be right.

    I don't feel I can trust anyone else really, not anyone else that would understand at least.

    Thank you Golden, it means a lot. :)
  • Sep 11, 2012, 02:44 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Goldentetra View Post
    You will meet someone like him, probably even better!


    Would you please add a word of caution about having sex under the age of consent?

    He's 15.
  • Sep 11, 2012, 02:55 PM
    Fiddels
    No need for that. ;)
  • Sep 11, 2012, 02:59 PM
    Goldentetra
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Would you please add a word of caution about having sex under the age of consent?

    He's 15.

    Sorry, I meant in the future, I didn't expect him to find someone straight away, and also you can have a relationship without sex :) I was thinking more about when he leaves home and can find more like minded people. School is a very strange environment.

    Fiddels, I hope your feeling a little better. Look after yourself, I mean it. I wouldn't tell the teacher about your feelings for him because it'll just end up in a big messy pile of mess. But I think you got that message already.

    Right, I'm off to bed, ciao for now.
  • Sep 11, 2012, 03:19 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fiddels View Post
    No need for that. ;)


    Would you answer how your friends know you are gay, have come out, but your brothers and parents don't?
  • Sep 11, 2012, 07:42 PM
    talaniman
    You do have a lot on your plate, and little help to guide you through the process of sorting things out. That's a shame sort of but understandable considering your age and lack of experience. I even can see that keeping yourself a secret is easier than coming out to people that may not understand you. Its truly scary I know.

    You definitely need a true older male you trust to talk to, but at this time one you are attracted to may not be the best choice. Maybe when you have gotten control of your emotions, and can stay within appropriate boundaries, he may be a reliable source of guidance, and advice.

    Until then... you have us! We may be tough, but fair!
  • Sep 11, 2012, 10:34 PM
    Fiddels
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Would you answer how your friends know you are gay, have come out, but your brothers and parents don't?

    Told my friends, not my family.

    And tal, thank you. It's going to be difficult, but I will keep my emotions under control. :)
  • Sep 11, 2012, 10:48 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fiddels View Post
    Forgot to mention my parents are homophobes, and my dad has already threatened that if I ever came out he'd kill me, he's attacked me before so I want to avoid that route.

    What does this mean? He thinks you are gay but doesn't want you to admit it?
  • Sep 12, 2012, 03:44 AM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    What does this mean? He thinks you are gay but doesn't want you to admit it?

    My guess is that it's his fathers fear and he's openly expressing it towards him but it could mean he's suspicious.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fiddels
    "Told my friends, not my family."

    No Fiddels, what we don't understand is how you can tell your friends, having siblings around your age, and your siblings not hear about it? That part is not making sense.
  • Sep 12, 2012, 05:59 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by C0bra_M3nace View Post
    My guess is that it's his fathers fear and he's openly expressing it towards him but it could mean he's suspicious.

    No Fiddels, what we don't understand is how you can tell your friends, having siblings around your age, and your siblings not hear about it? That part is not making sense.


    I've asked the same question two or three times - apparently OP has no answer.
  • Sep 12, 2012, 06:11 AM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    I've asked the same question two or three times - apparently OP has no answer.

    By we I meant you and I.

    I agree with you, I find it odd that all his friends know but no word has come of it to his siblings.
  • Sep 12, 2012, 06:27 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by C0bra_M3nace View Post
    By we I meant you and I.

    I agree with you, I find it odd that all his friends know but no word has come of it to his siblings.


    I realized that - I just meant that despite the requests, he chose not to answer. No problem - and I'd still like to know.
  • Sep 12, 2012, 06:40 AM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    I realized that - I just meant that despite the requests, he chose not to answer. No problem - and I'd still like to know.



    He did somewhat answer, just not specifically.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fiddles
    Told my friends, not my family.

  • Sep 12, 2012, 08:30 AM
    Fiddels
    Why would they know if I haven't told them? How is it odd?
  • Sep 12, 2012, 08:41 AM
    Homegirl 50
    I think parents and siblings know if you are gay. They may not want to admit or deal with it, but they know.
    You said yourself your father knows and forbids you to "come out".

    Just be very careful. This is not an easy life for a teen. But use your head. Don't let your emotions guide you. You can't speak or act on everything you feel.
    I wish you well.
  • Sep 12, 2012, 08:42 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fiddels View Post
    Why would they know if I haven't told them? How is it odd?

    Does your father suspect you are gay?
  • Sep 12, 2012, 08:45 AM
    Homegirl 50
    He said in an earlier post " my dad has already threatened that if I ever came out he'd kill me, he's attacked me before so I want to avoid that route."
  • Sep 12, 2012, 08:46 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fiddels View Post
    Why would they know if I haven't told them? How is it odd?


    Because you've come out to your friends - you don't think things of this nature filter down through families and friends?

    And, yes, I agree - your father very well may know and just doesn't want to hear the words.
  • Sep 12, 2012, 08:47 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homegirl 50 View Post
    He said in an earlier post " my dad has already threatened that if I ever came out he'd kill me, he's attacked me before so I want to avoid that route."

    Yes, I know and I have quoted him, but am still waiting for his confirmation. Seems like the public affirmation is what his father fears. Then the father thinks that is a reflection on himself and his masculinity?
  • Sep 12, 2012, 09:26 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Yes, I know and I have quoted him, but am still waiting for his confirmation. Seems like the public affirmation is what his father fears. Then the father thinks that is a reflection on himself and his masculinity?


    I agree - the father may know. He just doesn't want to hear it.
  • Sep 13, 2012, 08:25 AM
    Fiddels
    If he knew, he would have said something, he's pre-warned me just as parents Pre-warn kids about sex, condoms and those sort of things. He only mentioned it when gay scenes where on the TV.
  • Sep 13, 2012, 08:49 PM
    Orca17
    Honestly doing nothing is the best way to go for two reasons, one it is illgell and will cause problems, because as a teacher and grown man, he will naturally be unsure of what to do and may talk to someone. And secondly hun you are 15 it most certainly is a crush, and it makes sense, an attractive man who is kind to you and gives you advice, and comforts you like you said unlike your parents. Honestly though it sounds more like a deep admiration for who he is, and how he treats people, it is easy to fall more for a persons personaility and the attraction just follows, but you need to remember that it's a crush. And quite frankly it may be weird to him if you tell him, my advice try dating your age or focusing on getting ready to come out or whatever, and just remember admiration and love are two different things. Don't tell him its better that way and just try and forget and move on, its okay to admire him, but it's a silly admiration turned to lust, it is not love in the form you think it is.
  • Oct 4, 2012, 11:35 PM
    Fiddels
    I still don't know guys, I can't help it and I still feel the same way about him. Everyone has been telling me just to not tell him and move on because it's the best thing to do - I agree but my heart doesn't.
  • Oct 5, 2012, 05:09 AM
    talaniman
    Then keep talking to your heart until it does agree with your head. Don't do what the heart tells you to do, do what your head is telling you.
  • Oct 5, 2012, 05:41 AM
    smoothy
    Following your heart is what always gets people into trouble...
  • Oct 18, 2012, 12:25 AM
    Fiddels
    How long will it take?
  • Oct 18, 2012, 07:58 AM
    talaniman
    It generally takes as long as it takes to convince your heart to shut up and listen to reason, and stop screwing with your head.
  • Oct 20, 2012, 01:56 AM
    Fiddels
    It's so hard though, he has been such a father like figure to me, he talks to me and makes sure I'm all right and if things at home are okay. He is very comforting as well, I've never met anyone like him before.
  • Oct 20, 2012, 07:13 AM
    talaniman
    Have you read the stickies to get some ideas as to what to do to help you move on?

    Relationships - Ask Me Help Desk

    Or some of the other questions people ask about surviving a break up? Coping with your own feelings, in mature positive productive ways?

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