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  • Apr 20, 2016, 11:40 PM
    Creative55
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    Will my plumbing venting work
    Hello,
    I would like to install a bathroom and would like to know if my proposed plumbing diagram venting will work? The original plumber who scoped it out said I should run a 3" drain but I hear a 4" (as marked in the drawings) is what is normally used. The slope will be a 1/4 drop for every foot.

    Thank you.
  • Apr 21, 2016, 04:19 AM
    Mike45plus
    Creative,
    Yes, it will work however, a 3" drain would be just fine and code compliant. The IRC and IPC do not require an individual vent for the toilet as long as there is a 3" vent stack or stack vent connected to the dwv system...
  • Apr 21, 2016, 05:30 AM
    ma0641
    If your local code allows, use an AAV under the sink. Saves running pipe.
  • Apr 21, 2016, 06:50 PM
    Milo Dolezal
    Nice drawings !

    3" drain is perfectly OK... You can combine all vents into one, 2" vent, about 48" above the floor, and continue with 2" vent above roof line

    We don't use 1 1/4" vents, but 1 1/2"

    Hope that helps

    Milo
  • Apr 23, 2016, 09:47 AM
    Creative55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike45plus View Post
    Creative,
    Yes, it will work however, a 3" drain would be just fine and code compliant. The IRC and IPC do not require an individual vent for the toilet as long as there is a 3" vent stack or stack vent connected to the dwv system...

    Thank you Mike45plus,
    Is there any advantage to running a 3 over 4 inch drain?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Milo Dolezal View Post
    Nice drawings !

    3" drain is perfectly OK... You can combine all vents into one, 2" vent, about 48" above the floor, and continue with 2" vent above roof line

    We don't use 1 1/4" vents, but 1 1/2"

    Hope that helps

    Milo


    Thank you Milo, would it make things flow smoother if I used a 4 inch drain?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ma0641 View Post
    If your local code allows, use an AAV under the sink. Saves running pipe.


    Thank you, what is a AAV?
  • Apr 23, 2016, 10:52 AM
    ma0641
    "Thank you, what is a AAV?"

    Air Admittance Valve also called a Studor. In some cases it replaces a roof vent and is very useful in retro fitting and with kitchen islands. Our peninsula sink and basement bath vanity use them. They are not accepted at all locations so check with your plumbing codes.

    https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP....9&rs=0&p=0&r=0
  • Apr 23, 2016, 04:52 PM
    Milo Dolezal
    Creative55:

    We size pipes according to number and type of plumbing fixtures. Each plumbing fixture has assigned number of "plumbing units." In your case, you are adding toilet (3 units), sink (1 unit ), and shower (2 units ) which amounts to 6 plumbing units. So theoretically speaking, you could triple the load to max the pipe out as horizontal load for 3" pipe is 20 units / 2 toilets maximum. Moreover, 3" pipe is easier to install, fits better in tight spaces and fittings are lot cheaper than in 4" size ... However, if you do it in 4" pipe, it will be perfectly OK to do.

    Hope that explains

    Milo
  • Apr 24, 2016, 10:48 PM
    Creative55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ma0641 View Post
    "Thank you, what is a AAV?"

    Air Admittance Valve also called a Studor. In some cases it replaces a roof vent and is very useful in retro fitting and with kitchen islands. Our peninsula sink and basement bath vanity use them. They are not accepted at all locations so check with your plumbing codes.

    https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP....9&rs=0&p=0&r=0

    OH... got it, thank you very much for you help.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Milo Dolezal View Post
    Creative55:

    We size pipes according to number and type of plumbing fixtures. Each plumbing fixture has assigned number of "plumbing units." In your case, you are adding toilet (3 units), sink (1 unit ), and shower (2 units ) which amounts to 6 plumbing units. So theoretically speaking, you could triple the load to max the pipe out as horizontal load for 3" pipe is 20 units / 2 toilets maximum. Moreover, 3" pipe is easier to install, fits better in tight spaces and fittings are lot cheaper than in 4" size ... However, if you do it in 4" pipe, it will be perfectly OK to do.

    Hope that explains

    Milo

    Thank Milo, I wasn't aware of the assigned numbers "plumbing units" I appreciate your detailed explanation!

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