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  • Mar 7, 2009, 01:31 PM
    CodeChaser
    Roughing on for bar sink drain
    I am trying to find code for roughing in the bar sink drain. I know I can run the pipe from the bathroom vent (vanity) and have determined the height I would need is 27" sloping downward to 26-1/2". I cannot find any code stating I can or cannot have the drain that high. Does anyone know if there is code for this?

    Thanks
  • Mar 7, 2009, 01:55 PM
    Milo Dolezal

    Your question is a bit vague and confusing. I don't know whether there is Code for height of the sink drain inlet. That dimension is determined by the height of the sink, not by Code. Drain inlet should be anywhere between 17-21" from the floor. For pedestal sinks, you have to place it according to the leg cut-out.
  • Mar 7, 2009, 02:28 PM
    speedball1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CodeChaser View Post
    I am trying to find code for roughing in the bar sink drain. I know I can run the pipe from the bathroom vent (vanity) and have determined the height I would need is 27" sloping downward to 26-1/2". I cannot find any code stating I can or cannot have the drain that high. Does anyone know if there is code for this?

    Thanks

    Milo, He's asking about va bar sink not a lavatory but the rough's about the same. Tom
    CodeChaser
    I really don't understand your question. Are you saying that the elevation of the stubout will be 27 inches off the floor with a 2 foot run down to a sanitary tee in the vent? Here's where I run into a problem with your figures.
    The average bar sink will set 32 inches from floor to rim. Since the average depth of a bar sink's about 8 inches. That puts your stubout about 3 inches into the bow itself.
    As a rule we rough our bar sink at 18" off the floor to the center of the stubout.
    Where did you ever come up with 27" off the floor and why does code concern you? Will a permit be pulled and will the job be inspected?
    More questions? I'm as close as a click. Regards, Tom
  • Mar 8, 2009, 05:18 PM
    CodeChaser
    Thanks for the answers and sorry for the confusion. What I am trying to do is finish my basement. On one wall I would like to place a small L-shape bar, with a samll sink, herein lies the problem. The closest drain is the one for the full bath down staris and the only way I can tap into it is to go up 26-1/2" because of the way the drain for the bathroom vanity is set and the pipes coming off for the P-trap. I have a run of about 5' and then a 60 degree elbow followed by a 2' run. to be safe I would raise the P-trap for the new bar sink to 27" (1/2" for drain slope) but am not sure if this will work. I have a small 6 inch bar sink purchased from Lowe's and I did the calculations for the P-trap and believe it will work by the skin of my teeth, but am not sure whether I need to worry about code when I have the final inspection for the basement or not. I know this is a lot of information (none sense), but hope it helps
  • Mar 9, 2009, 05:45 AM
    speedball1
    One more time,
    Quote:

    The average bar sink will set 32 inches from floor to rim. Since the average depth of a bar sink's about 8 inches. That puts the bottom of the bowl at 24" and your stubout of 27" about 3 inches into the bow itself
    The only way 27" would work is if you raised the coumter top.
    There's another problem,
    Quote:

    I have a run of about 5' and then a 60 degree elbow followed by a 2' run.
    No mention bof a vent. If the drain pipe's 1 1/2" you wi;ll have to run a vent off the drain line within 3 1/2' from the trap. If the drain line's 2" then you have 5' before you must vent the line. This is code in most areas.
    Unless I've misunderstood the entire thing you either lower the stubout or raise the countertop. Did I miss anyrhing? Tom

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