Hello all.
These 2 movies I saw when I was around 7 and I'm now 18, have never been able to remember the actors, title or much info on them..
If anyone has any thoughts on what they could be, please tell me its been driving me crazy for years. Well here's the very small descriptons that I can remember or the films.
Any help would be very much appriciated. =D

1/ This movie has 2 main young male characters (about 16 yrs old), The two boys are bullied by a few bigger boys and one of the main boys gets bashed up and helped under water, in a fountain (I think), his friend pulls out a gun and shoots the bully dead.
The boys run away in the fear of the consiquences, they are on the run for a while and one of the boys is badly burnt in a house fire and eventually dies... I can't rember anymore... any help?

2/ This movie is about a group of boys who 'borrow' a gun form one of there fathers or something, they are playing around with it and one of them get shot, the boy is taken to hospital and all the boys try to figure out how to get out of it and I can't rember the ending.


I know there's not much information but any help or suggestions to find these movies would be awesome..


Thanks all

The first one sounds like the outsiders.

The Outsiders (1983)

I'm not sure if it was a gun or knife at the fountain.

They were saving little kids out of a place that was on fire.