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  • Sep 6, 2008, 11:02 AM
    Soleil
    Using the proper gage wire fro long distance outside run
    Hi,
    1) I am looking to run a 460' wire to an 5-wheel trailer - which I understand needs a 30 amp circuit. For the AC particularly, and need to figure out what is the proper gage wire to use.:confused:
    2) Also, I am told that I can not run romex wires in a conduit outside, is that true?:mad:

    3) And, alternatively, if I decide not to run a 30 amp capable wires, and only plan on running lights, etc (less costly and low usage expected) along with a gate motor for the end of the driveway what gauge wire would I need?

    I think that if I buy 50 foot rolls I will not only save money but have NO connections but a harder pull. I have 1 1/4" conduit.

    4) Oh, can I run an intercom wire in the same conduit? :confused: Some have said it would be OK some say it's a no no. I guess I can run this sort of wire (irrigation wire) on top of the pipe.

    I appreciate your time!:D
    Soleil
  • Sep 6, 2008, 11:13 AM
    stanfortyman
    1) Since this is a 120v circuit voltage drop is a real concern. For this circuit and a 24 amp continuous load you would need #1cu conductors.

    2) Absolutely NOT. You can run UF cable, but that is very bad practice and for what you are running the cable would be HUGE. You conduit would not support it.

    3) Why bother? If you going to do it do it right and do it once.
    The gate is another whole story. What does the gate require? How much does it draw? Is there a control box at the house or is it self contained? We only know it is a gate, nothing else... :confused:

    4) Absolutely NOT. Run another conduit if the trench is open. In fact, run TWO more.
  • Sep 6, 2008, 11:26 AM
    Soleil
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stanfortyman
    1) Since this is a 120v circuit voltage drop is a real concern. For this circuit and a 24 amp continuous load you would need #1cu conductors.
    :( #1cu, I have been told that #8 and another said I would need #6 - and the price keep going up! What am I to do? I think that I amputting lots $$ for little use. what do you think of these other guages?

    2) Absolutely NOT. You can run UF cable, but that is very bad practice and for what you are running the cable would be HUGE. You conduit would not support it.
    :rolleyes: That's good

    3) Why bother? If you going to do it do it right and do it once.
    The gate is another whole story. What does the gate require? How much does it draw? Is there a control box at the house or is it self contained? We only know it is a gate, nothing else...... :confused:

    4) Absolutely NOT. Run another conduit if the trench is open. In fact, run TWO more.

    :o Well if I run approved buriable wire (I think one calls it UH wire) - such that can be used for intercom and controller for the gate from the house, (can I use irrigation 5 wire or something like that?:confused: )
  • Sep 6, 2008, 11:49 AM
    stanfortyman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soleil
    what do you think of these other guages?

    I think they are way too small.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soleil
    :o Well if I run approved buriable wire (I think one calls it UH wire) - such that can be used for intercom and controller for the gate from the house, (can I use irrigation 5 wire or something like that?:confused: )

    Once again, knowing nothing about the gate I cannot comment with any certainty.

    All I can say is that is a long way. Even more chance for something to happen to the wire. Unless your soil is pure sand I would run conduit.
    If you do run direct bury cable I would have the gate company suggest what to run.

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