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Hello j:
It depends on what you consider a gang... Do you think the cops are a gang? I do.
excon
Nah, just fans of a musical group.
Here you go, but I guess you already knew the answer anyway:
Juggalo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We are not a gang but a family who has each others back listen to a few songs you will learn something one song to listen to is kept grinding
Calm done.Quote:
Originally Posted by juggalo4life101
Others are simply responding to your own question, which now appears to be utterly pointless and selfserving.
Calling yourself a 'family' does not keep it from being involved in illegal activities. Charles Manson called his followers a 'family'. The Mob is made up of 'families'. Many 'gangs' see themselves as 'families'.Quote:
Originally Posted by juggalo4life101
Is it a 'gang'? Not necessarily. Does it have problem 'members' (or want-to-be members)? Sure, nearly every family does.
'Having each others back' can be a positive point or negative depending on the situation. If you define 'having each others back' as standing up for friends and family, it can be a positive. If you define 'having each others back' as stealing or committing other crimes, then it is a negative.
Do you try to be positive influence or a negative one?
Sounds like a bunch of people that don't have jobs or lives to otherwise occupy themselves with to me.
Some words may come to mind... but "gang" isn't one of them.
As mellow as the Deadheads were... there was still plenty of crime happening. And no way is this crowd any more laid back or easy going than that bunch.
After all the responses, why did you ask if juggalo is a gang, if you already knew the answer?
Tick
Juggalos are mindless twits that worship two rappers... They idolize every word that is spoken and even try and dress up like them.
Its not a gang... more like a half@$$ed cult.
Its retarded..
Hahaha... thats a lot closer to what I was thinking than I was willing to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky098
I'm thinking OP is on a mission to dispel supposed rumors about his family.
Don't worry, Juggalo, most of us just go through our normal lives not thinking about Juggalos as a gang or anything else. And if people (or at least I) happen to think anything of them, "gang" isn't the first word that comes to mind...
Carry on!
And... WOW, never heard the word or expression in my life, so I guess I'm not worried or have an opinion at all.:)
Yeah... not a gang... but a group of "Rectal openings" (the actual word is obvious and would have been censored) that haven't figured out lifes priorities yet. If they actually had real jobs... and real responsibilities... they wouldn't have time for such nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by southamerica
I abhor stupidity... and I find that sort of thing monumentally stupid.
And I apply that to any bunch that borders on cult whorsip of any group, team or individual outside of a recognised religion.
I find it interesting that you have such animosity toward fans of a particular musical group.
Skylude, I find it interesting that you posted in the comments feature. Does that mean you don't have enough nerve to post in the reply feature and get real answers to your question. Smoothie is entitled to his opinion, same as you are. So post in the reply feature and come out of your closet and see what kind of answers you get to your comment.
Tick
To be honest I can't fault new users from getting that wrong, it's mostly the fault of the site redesign, that's why I never use the new skins.Quote:
Originally Posted by tickle
When you get some more maturity under your belt... and you will as do most people. You are going to understand how dumb that sort of thing really is. You are too young to understand it just yet. But look at it this way... how many of these "fanatics" have enough saved to make it even a few weeks without a paycheck.. (without having to crash at someone else's place).. or can put everything they own in the back of a pickup truck? Most of them... right? Think about that for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by ;
I have always felt that way about any sort of groupies... And there are certain types of music that don't have staying power or appeal only to a very small select group of people. This is one of those.
And people that waste large portions of their lives like this for a dumb group are going to wake up one day wishing they had done something productive instead... and you will never get that time back.
I can make that sort of comment because I'm old enough to have seen it, not just once but several times. I had the common sense to know better, but some of my friends over the years didn't.
I listen to music... I enjoy listening to certain music. I think certain groups have real talent, and have proven real staying power as well. And there are a LOT on no tallent groups with no real appeal or enough talent to have any staying power outside of a small circle.
But none of them are deserving of, or get, what equals Idol Worship. You go to church for that, everyone else is mortal and merely human.
That applies to Political fugures, Sports Figures... and Hollywood as well.
Animosity? Such a strong emotion! Doubtful that anyone would waste such emotion on a bunch of groupies.
Annoyed? Empathetic? Probably-in the sense that we feel sorry for Juggalos that they're wasting their lives on something that really won't allow them to grow as individuals and fulfill their potential. It's always sad to see such waste.
Animosity... that's what one feels toward their siblings when they are being favored by the parents :)
From my understanding a Juggalo is simply a fan of ICP. I do not see how being a fan of any type of musical group can get you labeled with
I am not sure if you took the definition of a Juggalo to be a "fanatic" of ICP or not but that is not always the case, it can be someone who simply listens to their music.Quote:
... how many of these "fanatics" have enough saved to make it even a few weeks without a paycheck.. (without having to crash at someone else's place).. or can put everything they own in the back of a pickup truck? Most of them... right?
I am personally not a fan of ICP but I can still avoid the above stereotype that has been given to them. I just find it unfair which is my opinion.
Fans don't hang out in crowds and have parties together... as you described in this thread or what Wikipedia has.
Anyone that does that is a fanatic...
A "Fan" buys their music and listens to it, enjoys it, and nothing more.
A "Fanatic" hangs out with other fanatics has parties in honor of the group and even follows them from concert to concert.
Like the Infamous "Deadheads" of past times before the passing of Gerry Garcia.
There is a huge difference between a fan... and a fanatic.
Not going to argue about this topic any further however Wikipedia has,
It clearly says fans, not only those fans that hang out in large groups or follows them from concert to concert, that would be taking it to the next level fanatic.Quote:
Juggalo or Juggalette (the latter being feminine) is a name given to fans of Insane Clown Posse or any other Psychopathic Records hip hop group.
Wikipedia! I am going to change that word to "fanatic" really quick**, because I can. Then what of what Wikipedia clearly says?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skylude
**Don't waste your browsing time, I'm not actually going to change anything.
Skylude, I'm not trying to be mean here. I'm just saying Wikipedia, while a great launching off point for research, cannot be the final say in anything. The media has been trolled so many times by people messing with Wikipedia information (it's hilarious I must say). At some point you must think of something logically, which I think Smoothy has done.
I absolutely love "Me and Bobby McGee" and various other Grateful Dead songs. Does that make me a deadhead. Lord, I hope not! You see the logic here?
http://img.slate.com/media/46/020829_Deadheads.jpg
Deadheads
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_p3jc-wdeKG...0/juggalos.bmp Juggalos
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/ki...l-download.jpg
Kiss Army
There aren't any concerts I go to where people dress a certain way or paint their face or take LSD and dance around hugging sunrays for the sake of the music. That's just fanatical. I can say the same thing about sports!
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Originally Posted by southamerica
Glad you said it! Anyone can write anything on wikipedia. So someone said fan instead of fanatic. Doesn't mean anything. I agree with smoothy too, fanatic is more fitting
I consider the morons with the beer bellies wearing only pants and shoes and body paint at football games... IN THE SNOW... in the same category too.
Haha. After enough beer, who cares what the weather is? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Yeah.. Sick with double Pneumonia and wondering HOW they got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by southamerica
The difference I see in those photos (apart from the fact the KISS army can actually do make-up, not just smash their face in a box of crayolas) is that the KISS fans are actually at a concert... the Juggalos are sitting in a dirty car park.
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Originally Posted by Skylude
I will agree Wikipedia is not near the best place for real and true info. While we all use it at time. It even lists me as one of the Worlds leading religious leaders.
Even Dead heads actually went to concerts... and not just get stoned in their parents garage or basement TALKING about the band.
Been doing some editing yourself then Chuck?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
I am not sure (if I had to choose because my life depended on it) which group I would choose to hang out with... probably the KISS army. Between Dead heads and Juggalos, definitely Dead heads. Call me ignorant, but I'd actually fear for my life around Juggalos.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
While KISS army and Dead heads do their fanaticism better, it doesn't make them NOT fanatics.
haha! But, aren't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
They have lost ANY credibility when they start to say I am.
A year ago we had a question about jugaloos being a gang, maybe chuck can scrape it up, I cant. Why are we talking about jugaloos again. Is this thread hijacked. I hate going off topic, it is so bloody confusing. So what are we talking about now.
What does hippies haven anything to do with it? Hippism was actually a good movement. It got women up and thinking about what they wanted to do in life, burning bras, etc. I went through that. We had hippies in Ontario you know, for heavens sake. Do you guys think all this happened in the US.
Tick
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Originally Posted by excon
Yes, look up the G20 in Toronto; then you know this particular police force on this particular day turned into a gang mentality. Not one cop had his badge on and the whole squad harassed absolutely everyone who were not doing anything. Arrested over one hundred people in holding cells, without water or food for 24 hours, possibly more.
‪Police Harassment at the Toronto G20.AVI‬‏ - YouTube
This was for the G20 conference of international proportions and probably the reason why William and Kate did not include Toronto in their stop overs.
Tick--
This topic got revived but it started in March. We were discussing whether Juggalos were fans or fanatics, and we used Dead heads as an example of fanatics.
I don't think anyone said anything about hippies or the hippie movement, but I could be wrong. Dead heads are hippies, but hippies are not Dead heads :)
Yeah Deadheads weren't the best example... they at least followed a band with talent.
Pssst, pretty sure (and I could be wrong) but "Me and Bobby McGee" is a Janis song :)
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