33% tax on campaign contributions!! Who's on board ?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
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33% tax on campaign contributions!! Who's on board ?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You would be outraged at the fact that Sarah Palin has a PAC and she has no power whatsoever to effect any change at all. She's even spend PAC money to buy her own books. Isn't it a bit irresponsible to be using that much of other people's money for her own benefit with so many people out of work? How much moose meat could that buy?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I'm in.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I'll forgo the tax if we can just get rid of the anonymity. How about public financing?? That'll fix it... Any of those sound good to you?? Nahhh.
Exco
Tom there is a big difference in shared sacrifice, and expecting the rich to balance the budget. No one is doing that, but they can help the whole country with SOMETHING, don't you think? They have no payroll tax, unlike most of us, even though we get money back AFTER the Government has used it. Cool, keeps things flowing, CIRCULATION helps us all.
Now corporations take there loot to the bank, and have an army of accountants and lawyers, and lobbyist to handle their finances for them, and pay less taxes than they ever have in the history of the world. Even if loopholes are closed they still have bookoo bucks safely tucked away in off country havens, trust funds and investments overseas, and jobs Americans use to do.
Still, they could sure pay their fair share since they sure as hell ain't circulating NO money, investing NO money, creating NO jobs, so those corporate fat cats you worship ain't doing NO work to put us back on a working path. Sure keep talking about spending, but if NOBODY spends, there is NO circulation, NO demand, NO jobs, NOTHING.
The government is "We the people", not Exxon, GE, Shell. BP, Citi Corp, or Wells Fargo. The Government didn't screw the world economy, or rip off ordinary people, but "we the people" saved their bacon! So the least they can do is bail "us" out.
And when the repubs, and conservatives stop hollering shrink the government, cut spending, lower taxes, TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK, (thats what they say during good times and bad), then we can handle our real business, and that's a jobs bill! Should have had one already, oh that's right, repubs said NO, "we are broke, we can't afford it".
JOBS< JOBS< and more JOBS, the rest is just a smoke screen, gimme a job, and we can pay bills and buy stuff, and CIRCULATE some money.
Rich people use to do that you know.
Allow me to knock that straw man down, Palin is irrelevant to this discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
LOL! That's what you say to anything you don't want to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Just speaking the truth. I'll put my record on that up against yours any day.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Record of what? Fantasy football?
I'd put my record of speaking the truth up against yours any day... and I'd put my fantasy sports record up against anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Nope . I'll decide who's campaign I support . I don't want a penny of my money going to Schumer's reelection.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
The rich finance the Federal government with their income taxes now .The poor don't .So yes there is a big difference in the "shared sacrifice".Quote:
Tom there is a big difference in shared sacrifice, and expecting the rich to balance the budget.
And they wouldn't if the tax system was overhauled. I am not into the 'create work for accountants business'. If I had my way there would be no need for the bloated IRS .Quote:
Now corporations take there loot to the bank, and have an army of accountants and lawyers, and lobbyist to handle their finances for them, and pay less taxes than they ever have in the history of the world.
LOL, expecting the same thing from a poor guy as you do a rich guy! The rich finance there own pockets and life, and show me a rich guy that has a payroll deduction. Middle class working people are the ones who have payroll taxes deducted, of which the number is rapidly shrinking. It's the middle class that buys stuff from all over the world that makes the rich rich, of which they are shrinking so its less demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Come on, Warren Buffet is not god, so why do you worship him so? Oh wait, Tom are you one of those filthy rich?? That's the only explanation I can think of! Confess!!
I agree with tax code overhaul, or reform, but downsizing "we the people", and being at the mercy of Wall Street, the banks, and corporations, NO WAY!!Quote:
And they wouldn't if the tax system was overhauled. I am not into the 'create work for accountants business'. If I had my way there would be no need for the bloated IRS
You love and trust them, I DON'T!!
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Not so. The poor pay federal gasoline taxes... They pay federal telephone taxes... They pay federal UNEMPLOYMENT taxes... They pay federal internet taxes. They pay federal Social Security Taxes. They pay federal FICA taxes...
If that's not enough taxes to satisfy you about "shared" sacrifice, they also pay state property taxes, and city and county sales taxes. And, because I'm not really up on ALL the taxes we pay, I'll bet there are DOZENS more taxes they pay.
More importantly, I wonder WHY a regular working stiff constantly supports rich people who's policies don't support YOU?
excon
I don't know about you, but no FUTA taxes are withheld from my check, FICA taxes ARE Social Security and they pay none of either if they don't work.
Hello again, Steve:
I got your point... Here's mine... Even the dude who is begging on the freeway ramp PAYS TAXES. Yes, I know... It's NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU...
Here's another point, it doesn't make me like you any better knowing that you're MORE concerned with a RICH SOB, than the guy begging on the corner.
excon
LOL, that rich guy just laid off your daddy, and hired Akbar in India, then he brings his crap back here for you to buy. And you guys just love 'em. Keep bending over.He laughs all the way to the bank at your loyalty.
That's why they sent the letter to congress to get 'er done. They already know you will pay their taxes for them, no matter what the rates are, or the loopholes.
I guess you are a rich guy like Tom is, and how come conservatives are so rich??
You make it sound like the rich get off without paying these non-income taxes. The truth however is quite different . I made it clear in the comment above that it was income taxes I was talking of... and of course ,it's the income tax that is the largest single source of Federal Revenues .Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Ex, I asked you twice yesterday to be honest about me instead of making sh*t up. I don't make stuff about you, don't make stuff up about me, cool? I stated my position yesterday:Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
That single mom, raising 2 kids and working her a$$ off for not a lot of anything, I have no problem with her getting 100 percent of her withholding back. That deadbeat not even trying, yeah he needs to contribute to society, not suck the life out of it.
I have often said here government needs to provide a safety net for those who truly need help, and I have given plenty over the years to help those less fortunate. I'm sure you've even read my pleas for others to consider sponsoring a child instead of buying their spouse a Christmas present they don't need. I'm not one bit ashamed of positions on the poor or my personal contributions along that line so find a new line of attack.
Whatever wealth I have has nothing to do with money.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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