I gave you a chance to condemn the lies, so am I wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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I gave you a chance to condemn the lies, so am I wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Hello again, Steve:
If you believe, as you do, that it's OUR SIDE who's the liar, and YOUR SIDE isn't, then you're wrong.Quote:
I gave you a chance to condemn the lies, so am I wrong?
What else is new?
Excon
I documented it yesterday. Your turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Uhhh, Romney lying about Obama getting rid of the WORK requirement in welfare...
Look. You're NOT going to win here, and it's futile to try.
excon
I did my own fact finding and came up with of course more facts, as why the 58 million was NOT cut in the first place, and why a 30 million dollar cut would not be recommended.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
US disease agency in fiscal peril : Nature News & Comment
The morale of the story, don't let a butcher do brain surgery. Come on Speech, we all know that since you cannot repeal Obama Care, defunding it is the next best thing.Quote:
Cuts to the CDC have already contributed to the loss of nearly 50,000 jobs in state and local health departments since 2008. This year, the administration argues that “efficiencies” will make possible the specific cuts it has proposed in areas such as adult-immunization funding and epidemiological support. But CDC advocates and public-health officials are sceptical. A proposed $47-million cut to the Strategic National Stockpile “is a lot more than just efficiency. It's going to cut capability as well,” says Crystal Franco, an associate with the Center for Biosecurity of UPMC in Baltimore, Maryland. “We are reaching the tipping point where preparedness efforts are going to be reversed because of the lack of funding,” she adds... In the current atmosphere of fiscal constraint, the PPHF has become a target for raiding, and already, as part of a payroll-tax-cut extension that was signed into law by Obama on 22 February, Congress has cut the fund by 20%, or $250 million, in 2013, and by a total of $6.25 billion to 2025.
You guys can just go on enjoying and excusing this administration's lies, but I didn't drink the koolaid and neither did America.
B b b b b b b b but he's the Messiah? He's perfect.
Like I said, his scarequester continues to backfire. First the WH cancels the tours and announces it, then Obama blamed the Secret Service, then Carney said the WH canceled the tours, then blamed Republicans... and I'm sure the story is still evolving but in the long run, anyone but Obama will be to blame...
White House tour move backfires on Obama
... and the scarequester will continue.
... not only does it continue but Dingy/Dirty/Filthy Harry Reid shamelessly blamed an explosion that killed 7 Marines on the sequester.
The USMC is none too happy about Reid's nonsense:Quote:
Mr. President, it's very important we continue training our military, so important. But one of the things in sequester is we cut back in training and maintenance. That's the way sequester was written. Now, the bill that's on the floor, we hope to pass today helps that a little bit. At least in the next six months, it allows the military some degree of ability to move things around a little bit. Flexibility, we call it, and that's good. But we have to be very vigilant. This sequester should go away. We have cut already huge amounts of money in deficit reduction. It's just not appropriate, Mr. President, that our military can't train and do the maintenance necessary.
How low can they go?Quote:
NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports: Now I can tell you, Marine Corps officials this afternoon are taking a strong exception to what Harry Reid implied. Saying that this this exercise, for example, was planned well in advance, had nothing to do with the budget cuts. There were no corners cut, and if they couldn't afford to have all the safety precautions into place, they wouldn't do the exercise.
And in fact, one Marine Corps official told us a short time ago that he considers this nothing but pure political posturing on the backs of these dead Marines.
I hear the Easter Egg Roll on the White House Lawn is a gonner .
Has the sequester introduced a sense of reality
Here's reality . The sequester is the law of the land until all elected branches get together and come up with a budget that sets spending priorities . That's what mature people would do... instead of playing this game of punishing the people in trivial ways.
I thought budget bills had to originate in the house, but who would introduce a bill that has no hope of passing. The way I see this Tom is that is that the Republicans thought BO had fallen into their trap when the sequester was passed, but the fact is BO is smarter than the average republican and he let these cuts fall where the republicans would like them least thereby making them unpopular. There is nothing trivial about this, but cuts agreed to that do not seriously affect welfare programs, not only that be he got them to agree to tax hikes on the rich. I would say he has them over a barrel and he likes to hear them squealQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Bull... Obama The average dog has more intelligence than Obama... all his blabbering and bloviating has come back to haunt him and his ratings are tanking even among the more gullible than average democrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
And for all of his claims... the sky hasn't fallen... teahcers haven't lost their jobs... (no surprise because teachers are not paid from the federal government).
Heck the sun even came up again... which is more to say than Obama's putter.
The Constitution mandates the President submit a budget for consideration. His is late ,and when he has submitted them ,they've been voted down by huge bipartisan majorities. Meanwhile the House has PASSED one every year .The Senate has not ,so it's been impossible to have a conference committee to iron out the differences. This year at least the Senate let one out of the budget committee.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Like I said;if the White House and Senate don't grow up then sequester is the law of the land. Look the President got his tax on the rich. The spending levels of the sequester are NOT going to go away .So it's incumbent on our elected leaders to prioritize the spending ,and stop silly games like Reid(that POS) played today.
Well maybe the President likes the budget he has and all he seeks is a continuence, which the Republicans seem willing to pass. Way I see it he got what he wanted and screwed the Republicans, now that is good politicin
After his scarequester the people are seeing through him and hid ratings gave taken a tumble. One can only play the chicken little game so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Hello again, Steve:
Right wingers are the only people who think you can SLASH budgets and get the same level of service.. It's actually nuts when you think about it.
excon
Only left wingers think you can perform miracles by throwing trillions of dollars at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
The Welfare program has proven the more money you hand someone to sit on their azz... the less work they are willing to do.
What, a perfect correlation and statistics also prove that the more incentive you give to industry the bigger their bank balance
Like your country doesn't do the very same thing... or every country would have the robust economy of the average African nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Smoothy, my country doesn't do pork barrelling, and legislation stands alone, sometimes incentives are offered in the taxation system, but they are more like early writeoffs in industries where there is high risk and sometimes subsidies are offered to keep industries onshore but we don't give incentives to take industry offshore. Our political system is more transparent than yours because our leaders have to face questioning in the house everyday, they don't like it but it happens and we have a system where a budget is presented and passed every year or the whole thing will shut down. A government that cannot get a budget passed will go to an electionQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Yeah... and there is no poverty in Australia... everything is perfect and nobody has ever done anyone else wrong... ever... yada, yada yada...Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
You are the perfect sheeple... they have you well trained to believe everything they tell you to believe.
Well let's put it this way there is less poverty in Australia than there is in the US and we do intervene to address specific issues. If we have an inadequacy it is in the way we deal with boat people (illegal immigrants). The CIA factbook gives the US a 15% poverty rating but doesn't bother to provide the Australian statistic, after tax transfer measures suggest we are at least 3 - 4 % lower than USA, but real poverty, difficult to measure as it isn't obvious except in remote areasQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Australians are very skeptical this is why the Labor (socialist) government will be out of office at the next election, we cannot be easily bought
Slash ? Lol this isn't even a holding the line... this is a slight reduction in the rate of increase in spending .Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I wonder what we wold see if we took an Australian style razor gang to your budget
I'm for deep slashing... like bringing spending back to 2008 levels initially ,and further to Clintoon era spending... The Dems should agree to that since they think the Clintoon era was the 'good ole days' .
Most of my services are local. Yours too I'm sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Like a good right winger you look to what benefits YOU. Like a good left winger, I look to what benefits the COUNTRY.
excon
Bwaaaaahahahhahaaa haha haQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
I got a good laugh out of that...
When was the last time a Democrat ever did anything that was good for the country?
Wasn't that under John F Kennedy? And wasn't that the Space program?
Like a good conservative I look at the facts, not the BS. I don't think it's good for the country to spend $57.72 per person for lunch or $44 per person for breakfast for GSA employees. Or this:Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
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I don't see the point of half a million to study shrimp on a treadmill, 20 holiday parties at the White House or a Senate barber shop that loses money. Do you?
Hello again, Steve:
If the congress wanted to END those programs, they COULD have put it in the Sequester.. They DIDN'T. Apparently, they thought Obama would make the cuts HE deemed necessary, and he IS.
So, if you have a problem with spending, I'd go to the source.
excon
So then... Obama is making the choices of what gets cut so its all Obamas fault for deciding to inflict maximum pain... not Congresses.
This is on your lefty demigod... not the conservatives.
Thank God Obama saved us from White House tours.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
And Easter Egg hunts .Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Well he saved the money do he can spend it on a few more Hawaii golf outings.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
The man has class
You mean gas. Or is it grass?
You just can't make that stuff up. Or this, courtesy of Ireland...Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Let that highlighted part soak in for a few minutes, lefties...Quote:
CIGARETTE-smuggling continues to soar in Ireland, with new Department of Finance figures showing that tobacco excise tax receipts are falling dramatically short of targets, even though taxes have increased and the number of people smoking has remained constant at 29 per cent of the population.
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